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The Problem on Nationalism
By: antihellenistic Date: May 18, 2024, 11:34 pm
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I talked with many Islamists and "New Leftists" who want total
change from a capitalist democratic into a distributive
socialist society, they are afraid of a nation-state system.
Because it can be resulting capitalism and a competitive society
being reinstated again by the classes of people who do not want
to be responsible for their actions when we help them win and
control the state. A society which divided because of its
nation-state systems can make them potentially war against each
other. Remember about how Western Civilization creates
unnecessary inter-society war with their nationalist doctrine.
We must reassess our nationalist sentiment.
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Re: The Problem on Nationalism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 19, 2024, 12:32 am
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Nationalism implies autarky, exclusively state-issued fiat
currency and exclusively barter-based foreign trade. All these
are antithetical to capitalism. Did you not explain this to
them?
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Re: The Problem on Nationalism
By: antihellenistic Date: May 19, 2024, 12:53 am
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[quote]Nationalism implies autarky, exclusively state-issued
fiat currency and exclusively barter-based foreign trade. All
these are antithetical to capitalism. Did you not explain this
to them?[/quote]
That's the ideal of using nation-state as a tool to implement
socialism, I already say it to them. But they don't have
solutions if the corrupt and westernized people retake the
national state to be used by them for their own interest, used
to implement back capitalist darwinian society, based on natural
selection...
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Re: The Problem on Nationalism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 19, 2024, 2:18 am
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Even if you started off with just one state for the whole world,
capitalists could still retake that and then re-implement
capitalism. But if we start off with multiple states, then if
they retake one first and re-implement capitalism there, the
others can militarily invade that one and thus prevent
capitalism from spreading.
Let's say there is a 0.5 probability of any state being retaken
by capitalists each year. If we had only one state, then there
is a 0.5 probability of that state being retaken. But if we had
two states, then there would be 0.5 x 0.5 = 0.25 probability of
both being retaken that year. Thus having two states is safer
than having only one. And so on.
This is similar to spreading out farms so that if a farm in one
location has a bad harvest, at least we can compensate with a
farm in another location having a good harvest (and which can
then transport the food to the bad harvest location), thereby
reducing the risk of famine.
Another example:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_floodability
[quote]Development of watertight compartments continued during
the Song dynasty in China. The watertight compartments were
there to ensure that if one part of the ship was leaking, the
ship itself would not sink. [/quote]
Even capitalists understand this principle:
HTML https://www.wealthify.com/blog/why-you-shouldn-t-put-all-your-eggs-in-one-basket
[quote]Basically, if you invest in just one company, you're
solely relying on it to do well – and as we know, the markets go
up and down, and they can be impacted by many factors, like news
events, and market and economic trends.
'Diversifying' your portfolio means investing in a range of
assets (like stocks, bonds, commodities, and property, and
indexes from around the world (such as the UK's FTSE 100 or the
S&P 100 in the US), as a way to spread your risk. This means
that any poorly performing investments could be balanced out by
ones that are doing better, and local events (like Brexit) could
have less of an impact.[/quote]
(Of course, as we bring down the world population in a
controlled way, then we will gradually need fewer and fewer
states in total. Hopefully we will simultaneously be Aryanizing
the remaining population, and thus reducing the risk of hostile
usurpation that way. Towards the end of Aryanization, we should
be safe enough even with only one state. But the mistake to
avoid is to jump the gun to one state before the racial quality
of the population is high enough.)
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