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       Re: Dress decolonization
       By: rp Date: April 29, 2022, 7:19 am
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       I agree. For reference, this is the actual Zhongshan tunic:
       [img width=1280
       height=850]
  HTML https://www.dragonsports.eu/117761-verylarge_default/zhong-shan-uniform.jpg[/img]
       Note the lack of buttons/folded collars.
       #Post#: 13158--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dress decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 29, 2022, 10:19 pm
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       This same principle of not adding foreign objects to
       construction is also seen in:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dougong
       [quote]The use of dougong first appeared in buildings of the
       late centuries BC and evolved into a structural network that
       joined pillars and columns to the frame of the roof. Dougong was
       widely used by the ancient Chinese during the Spring and Autumn
       period (770–476 BC) and developed into a complex set of
       interlocking parts by its peak in the Tang and Song periods. The
       pieces are fitted together by joinery alone without glue or
       fasteners, requiring precise carpentry.[/quote]
  HTML https://cutthewood.com/featured/ancient-chinese-woodworking-without-nails/
       [quote]Chinese architects and Chinese woodworkers have used
       mortise-and-tenon joints so pieces of wood are joined together.
       A rectangle-to-rectangle tenon,  square-to-square or “peg”
       fitted into a “hole” or mortise, or “hole” were some of the
       techniques used. It is crucial to carve the dimensions of the
       tenon precisely yo mirror the mortise so the two will
       successfully fit together.
       As an ultimate rule, screws, and nails have never been used in
       any stage of the process. Indeed, history has proven that the
       creation of furniture pieces with nails and screws tend to
       wobble, unlike furniture pieces that were precisely joined using
       mortise and tenon, wherein individually carved pieces fit
       quickly into one another.
       ...
       Not to mention, the joining of the wood in this way creates a
       corresponding tension in the beam and does not create possible
       flaws in the cutting planes that may be present with other glue
       joining techniques.
       ...
       The nails and screws hold the wood quickly, allowing a small
       movement that eventually breaks the wood around the metal
       fastener. The movement of the wood, the humidity and the
       deterioration of the glue eventually loosen any glued wooden
       board.
       When done correctly, projects made entirely of wood can last as
       long as wood, which can be more than a thousand years.
       [/quote]
       When you hammer a nail or screw a screw into a piece of wood,
       you are adulterating the wood. Anyone who is willing to
       adulterate the very material they are trying to build with
       should not be allowed to build anything.
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nail_(fastener)#History
       [quote]The Bible provides a number of references to nails,
       including the story in Judges of Jael the wife of Heber, who
       drives a nail (or tent-peg) into the temple of a sleeping
       Canaanite commander;[3] the provision of iron for nails by King
       David for what would become Solomon's Temple;[4] and in
       connection with the crucifixion of Christ.[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw#History
       [quote]The metal screw did not become a common fastener until
       machine tools for their mass production were developed toward
       the end of the 18th century. This development blossomed in the
       1760s and 1770s[54] along two separate paths that soon
       converged:[55] the mass production of wood screws (meaning
       screws made of metal to be used in wood) in a specialized,
       single-purpose, high-volume-production machine tool; and the
       low-count, toolroom-style production of machine screws
       (V-thread) with easy selection among various pitches (whatever
       the machinist happened to need on any given day).
       The first path was pioneered by brothers Job and William Wyatt
       of Staffordshire, UK,[56] who patented in 1760 a machine that we
       might today best call a screw machine of an early and prescient
       sort. It made use of a leadscrew to guide the cutter to produce
       the desired pitch,[56] and the slot was cut with a rotary file
       while the main spindle held still (presaging live tools on
       lathes 250 years later). Not until 1776 did the Wyatt brothers
       have a wood-screw factory up and running.[56] Their enterprise
       failed, but new owners soon made it prosper, and in the 1780s
       they were producing 16,000 screws a day with only 30
       employees[57]—the kind of industrial productivity and output
       volume that would later be characteristic of modern industry but
       was revolutionary at the time.[/quote]
       #Post#: 13161--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dress decolonization
       By: rp Date: April 30, 2022, 2:05 am
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       Another thing I wanted to mention about the Kim picture is the
       face shapes. While Kim may not be the most Aryan looking guy,
       Moon has an undeniably Gentillic face shape.
       #Post#: 13312--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dress decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 13, 2022, 9:10 pm
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  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/am-choosing-literally-wear-chinese-130036049.html
       [quote] a memory of my first job as a community organizer in San
       Francisco in the spring of 2002. “Racist fashion’s got to go!” I
       chanted, assembled with hundreds of Asian American protesters on
       Market Street. We raised our voices against retailer Abercrombie
       & Fitch for releasing a series of graphic tees with Asian
       stereotypes, like “Wong Brothers Laundry Service ― Two
       Wongs Can Make it White” and “Buddha Bash ― Get Your
       Buddha on the Floor.”
       Then, too, my parents told me — in equal parts pride and worry —
       to keep them posted on our campaign. “Stay safe outside on the
       streets,” they said.
       The risk of asserting myself felt urgent back then. And, today,
       I’ve decided anew that being nondescript and subtle will not
       protect me. The truth is, just showing my face in America has
       been enough to make me a target for harassment or attack on the
       street in the middle of the day. I’ve decided I’m acting on a
       conscious dare of standing firm in my identity, not shrinking
       from it. I’m resisting my vulnerability with visibility.
       ...
       Recently I’ve made another, more surprising, sartorial choice: I
       started searching online for vintage Chinese dresses and
       integrating them into my at-home ensembles and my emerging
       post-pandemic wardrobe. A cheongsam, translated as “long dress”
       in Cantonese, is a sheath dress with a high mandarin collar and
       asymmetrical opening fastened by interlocking knotted buttons
       and loops of hua niu, or flower buttons. In my cheongsams, I can
       put myself together even when I feel fragmented, struggling to
       process being both Chinese and American in a country that has
       always had anti-Asian racism coursing through its veins.
       I’ve acquired 15 of these iconic dresses from secondhand shops,
       boutiques and vintage stores. Each figures prominently in my
       power-up wardrobe, making a conscious statement about my
       heritage, my culture, my visibility and my pride.
       [img]
  HTML https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/BjOV6yJIhGJsX8tNSl0hLw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTk0MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/qbrLkcpcdG.rNOMc73XeKw--~B/aD04NDA7dz02MzA7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_huffington_post_584/b188dd745be88242997fdf52255bc653[/img][/quote]
       Thank you for at least making an effort. However, note that the
       dresses you bought are already Westernized versions:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheongsam#History
       [quote]The predecessor of the more well known qipao resembled
       the men’s changpao. The changpao was a long gown commonly
       associated with the male literati class. The first 1920s
       iteration was androgynous and had a “wide, angular and
       puritanical cut”[8][/quote]
       In other words, the original versions were low in sexual
       dimorphism. But then:
       [quote]According to the Clothing Regulations, the cheongsam
       needed to be worn with trousers and be calf-length, but with the
       introduction of Western fashion many people replaced trousers
       with stockings and added matching accessories. The side slits
       were re-purposed into an aesthetic design reaching the top of
       the thighs to reflect the new fashion trend. By the 1940s,
       trousers had completely fallen out of use, replaced by different
       type of hosiery. High-heeled shoes were another fashion trend
       introduced to Shanghai at the same time, and it became an
       essential part of cheongsam fashion set, which continued into
       modern days.[13] As trend of hosiery in turn declined in later
       decades, women started to wear cheongsam more commonly with bare
       legs. While this development settled the cheongsam as a
       one-piece dress, by contrast, the related Vietnamese áo dài
       retained trousers.
       The modernized version of cheongsam is noted for accentuating
       the figures of women, and as such was popular as a dress for
       high society. As Western fashions evolved, so does the cheongsam
       design, with introduction of high-necked sleeveless dresses,
       bell-like sleeves, and the black lace frothing at the hem of a
       ball gown. By the 1940s, cheongsam came in a wide variety of
       fabrics with an equal variety of accessories.[/quote]
       Westernization leads to increased sexual dimorphism every time.
       Before Westernization:
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Traditional_Chinese_costume_01.jpg/1280px-Traditional_Chinese_costume_01.jpg
       After Westernization:
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Red_qipao.jpg/682px-Red_qipao.jpg
       See the difference?
       If you are serious about decolonizing your wardrobe, go for the
       pre-Westernized versions!
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       Re: Dress decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 15, 2022, 11:37 pm
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       Let's talk about yet another uniquely Western inferiority:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_polish
       [quote]As leather with a high natural veneer became popular in
       the 18th century, a high glossy finish became important,
       particularly on shoes and boots. In most cases, homemade
       polishes were used to provide this finish, often with lanolin or
       beeswax as a base.[citation needed]
       In the late 18th and early 19th century many forms of shoe
       polish became available, yet were rarely referred to as shoe
       polish or boot polish. Instead, they were often called blacking,
       especially when mixed with lampblack, or still were referred to
       as dubbin. Tallow, an animal by-product, was used to manufacture
       a simple form of shoe polish at this time. Chicago, where 82% of
       the processed meat consumed in the United States was processed
       in the stock yards, became a major shoe polish producing
       area.[5]
       In London the Warren brothers, Thomas and Jonathan, started
       making blacking around 1795–98, initially in partnership and
       then with competing companies. Jonathan Warren's Blacking
       company is noted as the first employer of the young Charles
       Dickens aged 12 in 1823.[6] The competitor to the Warren
       companies in London is the Day & Martin company formed in
       1801.[7]
       ...
       Other early leather preserving products included the Irish brand
       Punch, which was first made in 1851. In 1889, an English man by
       the name of William Edward Wren, started making shoe polishes
       and dubbin under the brand name Wren's. In just 3 years, he won
       the “First in the Field – First Award Leather Trades Exhibition
       1892″ award which was awarded by the Leather Trades
       Exhibition held in Northampton, the centre of Britain’s boot
       making industry. This signified the importance and prestige of
       the exhibition in the trade and was a recognition of Wren's
       quality. In 1890 the Kroner Brothers established EOS, a shoe
       polish factory in Berlin, which serviced the Prussian military.
       It finally closed in 1934 when the Nazis forbade Jews to operate
       a business.[10][/quote]
       Hail Hitler! Seriously, somehow every other civilization in
       history managed fine without shoe polish for thousands of years,
       and then Western civilization just had to introduce this totally
       unnecessary item into existence, and then worst of all manage to
       convince the rest of the world (or at least the Eurocentrists
       among them, who were unfortunately the majorities everywhere)
       that they needed it:
       [quote]Shoe polish was to be found just about everywhere Allied
       troops ventured.[17] American war correspondent Walter Graeber
       wrote for TIME magazine from the Tobruk trenches in 1942 that
       "old tins of British-made Kiwi polish lay side by side with
       empty bottles of Chianti."[18] A story indicative of the rise in
       global significance of shoe polish is told by Jean (Gertrude)
       Williams, a New Zealander who lived in Japan during the Allied
       occupation straight after World War II. American soldiers were
       then finding the dullness of their boots and shoes to be a
       handicap when trying to win the affections of Japanese
       women.[14] U.S. military footwear of the time was produced in
       brown leather with the rough side out.
       When the British Commonwealth Occupation Forces arrived in
       Japan—all with boots polished to a degree not known in the U.S.
       forces—the G.I.s were more conscious than ever of their feet.
       The secret was found to rest not only in spit and polish, but in
       the superior Australian boot polish, a commodity which was soon
       exchanged with the Americans on a fluctuating basis of so many
       packets of cigarettes for one can of Kiwi boot polish.[citation
       needed][/quote]
       Sigh.....
  HTML http://www.herc.org/library/msds/shoepolish.htm
       [quote]Carcinogenicity - NTP: YES
       Carcinogenicity - IARC: YES
       Carcinogenicity - OSHA: YES
       DYES HAVE BEEN FOUND TO INDUCE CANCER IN LABORATORY ANIMALS
       DURING LONG-
       TERM FEEDING STUDIES OF DYE.[/quote]
       #Post#: 14777--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dress decolonization
       By: Zea_mays Date: July 19, 2022, 9:29 am
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       At least Westerners don't do this anymore:
       [quote]Breeching was the occasion when a small boy was first
       dressed in breeches or trousers. From the mid-16th century[1]
       until the late 19th or early 20th century, young boys in the
       Western world were unbreeched and wore gowns or dresses until an
       age that varied between two and eight.[2] Various forms of
       relatively subtle differences usually enabled others to tell
       little boys from little girls, in codes that modern art
       historians are able to understand but may be difficult to
       discern for the layperson.
       Breeching was an important rite of passage in the life of a boy,
       looked forward to with much excitement, and often celebrated
       with a small party. It often marked the point at which the
       father became more involved with the raising of a boy.
       [...]
       In the 19th century, photographs were often taken of the boy in
       his new trousers, typically with his father. He might also
       collect small gifts of money by going round the neighbourhood
       showing off his new clothes. Friends, of the mother as much as
       the boy, might gather to see his first appearance. A letter of
       1679 from Lady Anne North to her widowed and absent son gives a
       lengthy account of the breeching of her grandson
       [...]
       In England and some other countries, many school uniforms still
       mandate shorts for boys until about nine or ten.[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeching_(boys)
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Franklin-Roosevelt-1884.jpg
       [quote]Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1884, at the age of 2.[/quote]
       On the other hand, they still have gendered pink and blue baby
       clothes...
       #Post#: 15164--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dress decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 16, 2022, 4:25 pm
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       Eurocentrist police stupidity:
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/wrong-anything-anime-fan-china-233612326.html
       [quote]Anime fan in China says she was interrogated by police
       for wearing kimono
       ...
       In a video that purportedly shows her encounter with officers,
       an officer shouts at the woman, questioning her identity.
       “If you come here wearing Hanfu, I wouldn’t say this. But you
       are wearing a kimono, as a Chinese person. You are a Chinese!
       Are you?” the officer shouts at the woman.[/quote]
       Meanwhile, "Chinese" government officials regularly wear Western
       dress while on duty officially representing China FFS:
  HTML http://english.www.gov.cn/rw/Pub/GOV/p1/Content/News/Images/2017/10/25/xi960b.jpg
       but the police don't go after them for it. Yet a civilian is
       arrested for wearing Japanese dress in her own time?! Why the
       double-standard? (Answer: pervasive Eurocentrism.)
       The truth is:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimono
       [quote]The first instances of kimono-like garments in Japan were
       traditional Chinese clothing introduced to Japan via Chinese
       envoys in the Kofun period (300 – 538 CE; the first part of the
       Yamato period), with immigration between the two countries and
       envoys to the Tang dynasty court leading to Chinese styles of
       dress, appearance and culture becoming extremely popular in
       Japanese court society.[1] The Imperial Japanese court quickly
       adopted Chinese styles of dress and clothing,[6]
       ...
       In 718 CE, the Yoro clothing code was instituted, which
       stipulated that all robes had to be overlapped at the front with
       a left-to-right closure, following typical Chinese
       fashions.[9]: 133–136 [/quote]
       To not positively welcome ancient Japanese dress in China is to
       be ashamed of ancient Chinese cultural influence.
  HTML https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png
       Yes, I know Japan was part of the:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-Nation_Alliance
       but that was post-Meiji Japan. And guess what (back to previous
       link):
       [quote]During the Meiji period, the opening of Japan to Western
       trade after the enclosure of the Edo period led to a drive
       towards Western dress as a sign of "modernity". After an edict
       by Emperor Meiji,[citation needed] policemen, railroad workers
       and teachers moved to wearing Western clothing within their job
       roles, with the adoption of Western clothing by men in Japan
       happening at a much greater pace than by women. Initiatives such
       as the Tokyo Women's & Children's Wear Manufacturers'
       Association
       (東京婦人子供服&#32068
       ;合)
       promoted Western dress as everyday clothing.[/quote]
       See also:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/shimabara-rebellion-the-christian-revolt-that-isolated-medieval-japan/msg13812/#msg13812
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/shimabara-rebellion-the-christian-revolt-that-isolated-medieval-japan/msg13827/#msg13827
       The best way to express disapproval towards post-Meiji Japan is
       to celebrate pre-Meiji Japan.
       #Post#: 15689--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dress decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 16, 2022, 6:13 pm
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       Nice!
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooK5mGeJdqs
       #Post#: 16111--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dress decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 19, 2022, 7:42 pm
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       How sartorially colonized was pre-1979 Iran?
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashion_in_Iran
       [quote]Attempts at changing dress norms (and perspectives toward
       it) occurred in mid-1930s when pro-Western ruler Reza Shah
       issued a decree banning all veils.[9][10][11][12][13] Many types
       of male traditional clothing were also banned.[14][15][16]
       ...
       A far larger escalation of violence occurred in the summer of
       1935 when Reza Shah ordered all men to wear European-style
       bowler hat, which was Western par excellence. This provoked
       massive non-violent demonstrations in July in the city of
       Mashhad.[19][10][12][14][15][16][20]
       ...
       Later, official measures relaxed slightly under next ruler and
       wearing of the headscarf or chador was no longer an offence, but
       for his regime it became a significant hindrance to climbing the
       social ladder as it was considered a badge of backwardness and
       an indicator of being a member of the lower class.[17][/quote]
  HTML https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png
       In Iran, headscarfs are leftist:
       [quote]A few years prior to the Iranian revolution, a tendency
       towards questioning the relevance of Eurocentric gender roles as
       the model for Iranian society gained much ground among
       university students, and this sentiment was manifested in street
       demonstrations where many women from the non-veiled middle
       classes put on the veil[9][17][10][22][23] and symbolically
       rejected the gender ideology of Pahlavi regime and its
       aggressive deculturalization.[9][17][10][11][23] Wearing of
       headscarf and chador was one of main symbols of the 1979
       revolution,[10][11][24][23] Wearing headscarves and chadors was
       used as a significant populist tool and Iranian veiled women
       played an important rule in the revolution's
       victory.[17][11][13][/quote]
       Present-day False Leftists outside of Iran seem to have no
       awareness of this historical context. If you support the
       anti-headscarf protestors in Iran, you are supporting
       Eurocentrism!
       And one more thing about Reza Eurocentrist Pahlavi:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Shah
       [quote]Reza Shah was the first Iranian Monarch in 1400 years who
       paid respect to the Jews by praying in the synagogue when
       visiting the Jewish community of Isfahan; an act that boosted
       the self-esteem of the Iranian Jews and made Reza Shah their
       second most respected Iranian leader after Cyrus the
       Great.[/quote]
       See also:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/iran/msg15794/#msg15794
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/iran/msg15960/#msg15960
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       Re: Dress decolonization
       By: SirGalahad Date: October 20, 2022, 12:35 am
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       While in general I still support the current Iranian regime, I
       can’t help but feel that they deserve these protests in a way.
       Women in Iran should be allowed to not wear a hijab without fear
       of the mistreatment, cruelty or harassment that I’ve both read
       about and seen lately, because that choice is ultimately a
       non-violent one. I think that Iran is partially responsible for
       ruining its own image in the same way that the Eurocentric clown
       Xi Jinping doesn’t do China any favors either. While both of
       those countries have dealt with intense western smear campaigns,
       I think that Iran would be in a better position in terms of PR
       if the regime had made an attempt to stamp out some of the
       attitudes and behaviors that sparked this protest in the first
       place
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