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Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 2, 2022, 8:00 pm
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Our enemies think this is a good thing:
HTML https://vdare.com/posts/richard-pipes-between-1700-and-1870-russia-spent-106-years-fighting-38-military-campaigns-of-which-36-had-been-offensive
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> the Russian General Staff carried out a comprehensive study of
Russian warfare since the foundations of the state. In the
summary volume, the editor told his readers that they could take
pride in their country’s military record and face the future
with confidence — between 1700 and 1870, Russia had spent 106
years fighting 38 military campaigns, of which 36 had been
“offensive” …
>
> N. N. Sukhotin, Voina v istorii russkogo mira (St. Petersburg,
1898), 113-14, providing a report to the tsar from the Imperial
General Staff, observed that between 1700 and 1870, Russia was
at war 106 years. I am indebted to Richard Pipes for pointing
out this source to me. He quotes it in his Survival Is Not
Enough: Soviet Realities and America’s Future (New York: Simon
and Shuster, 1984), 36, 286. Its special importance is that it
shows that Russian military elites themselves certainly did not
believe that Russia was the victim of frequent foreign
invasions. In fact, the only serious invasions of Russian
territory since the Swedish campaigns against Peter the Great
were Napoleon’s campaign in 1812, the Crimean War in 1854-55,
and Hitler’s invasion in 1941. Toward the end of World War I, of
course, German forces pressed into Russian territory against no
Bolshevik resistance, but the war began in 1914 with a large
Russian offensive into East Prussia. Notwithstanding the actual
record of Russia’s habit of frequently invading its neighbors,
the popular image remains strong in Russia that it has always
and frequently been the victim, not the perpetrator of wars.
>
> These counts leave out some border skirmishes, such as with
Japan in the late 1930s and with China in the late 1960s, which
saw heavy fighting as a test of strength on an island in the
Amur River not allocated by treaty.
>
> In summary, though, you don’t get to be as vast as Russia
without starting some wars.
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#Post#: 11661--------------------------------------------------
Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 3, 2022, 8:33 pm
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How our enemies see Russia, concisely put:
HTML https://vdare.com/public_upload/publication/featured_image/57046/VDARE-super-serbia.jpg
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Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 8, 2022, 11:41 pm
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Another useful reference map:
HTML https://carnegieendowment.org/site-assets/interactives/russia-oil-map/map_russia-oil-gordon.png
Viewed in conjunction with the map here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/msg5125/#msg5125
all the oil that Russia has drilled from stolen territory should
regarded as stolen oil.
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Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 15, 2022, 1:36 am
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_conquest_of_Siberia#Conquest_and_exploration
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> In order to subjugate the natives and collect yasak (fur
tribute), a series of winter outposts (zimovie) and forts
(ostrogs) were built at the confluences of major rivers and
streams and important portages. The first among these were
Tyumen and Tobolsk — the former built in 1586 by Vasilii Sukin
and Ivan Miasnoi, and the latter the following year by Danilo
Chulkov.[2] Tobolsk would become the nerve center of the
conquest.[3]
> ...
> the Russians advanced first towards Lake Baikal and then the
Sea of Okhotsk and the Amur River. However, when they first
reached the Chinese border they encountered people that were
equipped with artillery pieces and here they halted.
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Moral of the story: firepower is the only effective way to
communicate with Turanians.
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> At the hands of people such as Vasilii Poyarkov in 1645 and
Yerofei Khabarov in 1650 some many people, including members of
the Daur tribe, were killed by the Cossacks. 8,000 out of a
previous population of 20,000 in Kamchatka remained after the
first half century of the Russian conquest.[7] The Daurs
initially deserted their villages fearing the reported cruelty
of the Russians the first time Khabarov came.[8] The second time
he came, the Daurs fought back against the Russians, but were
slaughtered.[9] In the 17th century, indigenous peoples of the
Amur region were attacked by Russians who came to be known as
"red-beards".[10]
>
> In the 1640s the Yakuts were subjected to violent expeditions
during the Russian advance into the land near the Lena river,
and on Kamchatka in the 1690s the Koryak, Kamchadals, and
Chukchi were also subjected to this by the Russians according to
Western historian Stephen Shenfield.[11] When the Russians did
not obtain the demanded amount of yasak from the natives, the
governor of Yakutsk, Piotr Golovin, who was a Cossack, used meat
hooks to hang the native men. In the Lena basin, 70% of the
Yakut population declined within 40 years, native women were
raped and, along with children, were often enslaved in order to
force the natives to pay the Yasak.[8]
>
> According to John F. Richards:
>
> Smallpox first reached western Siberia in 1630. In the 1650s,
it moved east of the Yenisey, where it carried away up to 80
percent of the Tungus and Yakut populations. In the 1690s,
smallpox epidemics reduced Yukagir numbers by an estimated 44
percent. The disease moved rapidly from group to group across
Siberia. Death rates in epidemics reached 50 percent of the
population. The scourge returned at twenty- to thirty-year
intervals, with dreadful results among the young.[6]
>
> In Kamchatka, the Russians crushed the Itelmens uprisings
against their rule in 1706, 1731, and 1741. The first time, the
Itelmen were armed with stone weapons and were badly unprepared
and equipped but they used gunpowder weapons the second time.
The Russians faced tougher resistance when from 1745–56 they
tried to subjugate the gun and bow equipped Koraks until their
victory. The Russian Cossacks also faced fierce resistance and
were forced to give up when trying unsuccessfully to wipe out
the Chukchi in 1729, 1730–1, and 1744–7.[12] After the Russian
defeat in 1729 at Chukchi hands, the Russian commander Major
Pavlutskiy was responsible for the Russian war against the
Chukchi and the mass slaughters and enslavement of Chukchi women
and children in 1730–31, but his cruelty only made the Chukchis
fight more fiercely.[13] Cleansing of the Chukchis and Koraks
was ordered by Empress Elizabeth in 1742 to totally expel them
from their native lands and erase their culture through war. The
command was that the natives be "totally extirpated" with
Pavlutskiy leading again in this war from 1744–47 in which he
led to the Cossacks "with the help of Almighty God and to the
good fortune of Her Imperial Highness", to slaughter the Chukchi
men and enslave their women and children as booty. However the
Chukchi ended this campaign and forced them to give up by
killing Pavlutskiy and decapitating him.[14]
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It goes without saying that the Orthodox Church worships Yahweh.
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> The Russians were also launching wars and slaughters against
the Koraks in 1744 and 1753–4. After the Russians tried to force
the natives to convert to Christianity, the different native
peoples like the Koraks, Chukchis, Itelmens, and Yukagirs all
united to drive the Russians out of their land in the 1740s,
culminating in the assault on Nizhnekamchatsk fort in 1746.[15]
Kamchatka today is European in demographics and culture with
only 2.5% of it being native, around 10,000 from a previous
number of 150,000, due to the mass slaughters by the Cossacks
after its annexation in 1697 of the Itelmen and Koryaks
throughout the first decades of Russian rule. The killings by
the Russian Cossacks devastated the native peoples of
Kamchatka.[16] In addition to committing massacres the Cossacks
also devastated the wildlife by slaughtering massive numbers of
animals for fur.[17] 90% of the Kamchadals and half of the
Vogules were killed from the eighteenth to nineteenth centuries
and the rapid slaughter of the indigenous population led to
entire ethnic groups being entirely wiped out, with around 12
exterminated groups which could be named by Nikolai Iadrintsev
as of 1882. Much of the slaughter was brought on by the fur
trade.[18]
>
> According to Western historian James Forsyth, Aleut men in the
Aleutians were subjects to the Russians for the first 20 years
of Russian rule, as they hunted for the Russians while Aleut
women and children were held as captives as a means to maintain
this relationship.[19]
> ...
> The Russian colonization of Siberia and conquest of its
indigenous peoples has been compared to European colonization of
the Americas and its natives, with similar negative impacts on
the natives and the appropriation of their land.[21]
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NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.
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Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire
DIR By: rp
Date: March 16, 2022, 12:21 am
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How Russia tried to conquer British India:
HTML https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rbth.com/history/330174-russia-tried-to-conquer-india/amp
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Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire
DIR By: rp
Date: March 16, 2022, 12:28 am
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Basically, the way I see it, the only reason the Russians didn't
practice overt "imperialist" colonialism was because, in Dugin's
own words, Russia has been a "Telluric" (land based) power as
opposed to the Atlantic West, which has been a "Thalassocratic"
(maritime) power.
This does not mean, however, that they were not colonialist
(they were).
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Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 4, 2022, 1:01 am
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Dalian
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> Located near the southernmost point of the Liaodong Peninsula,
the city of Dalian came under the territorial control of the
Russian Empire from 1898 until that country's defeat in the
Russo-Japanese War in 1905.
> ...
> In 1897 Russia signed with Qing China a secret agreement for
the establishment under Russian guidance of the Chinese Eastern
Railway. On December 15, 1897, Russia, fearing that without
decisive action it might lose its chance to seize the port of
Dalian to another imperial power such as Germany, which earlier
that year had taken control of Qingdao, had its fleet steam into
Dalian harbor. On March 27, 1898, Russia signed the Pavlov
Agreement with China, which granted Russia a 25-year lease on
Dalian and Lushun and exclusive right to lay a branch of the
Chinese Eastern Railway to them - what would become the South
Manchurian Railway.[2] At first, the flags of both China and
Russia were raised over the city, something that assuaged the
anger of some local Chinese. Within a few weeks, however, the
Chinese ensign was no longer flying.[3]
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The part in bold summarizes the Russian attitude towards China.
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> Dalniy soon became a center of Russian military power in the
Far East. In 1897 there were already 12,500 Russian troops in
Lushun and the surrounding area, a number that would grow to
35,000 by 1904.[4] However, the powerful Russian Finance
Minister Sergei Witte had larger visions for the region than
just a military garrison. Witte was overseeing the development
of the Chinese Eastern Railway and soon pushed through plans to
extend the railway from Harbin to the port at Dalny. In such a
vision the city would become a powerful open trading port in the
Far East while nearby Port Arthur would be an exclusive Russian
military city. On 8 November 1899, Nicholas II ordered the start
of construction of this port city, and - at Witte's suggestion -
christened the city Dal’nii (or Dalniy: Dalian), meaning “far
away” in Russian.[5]
> ...
> The Russian development of the city by necessity involved the
uprooting of the location's original Chinese inhabitants. In the
summer of 1899, this sparked an angry riot in which Chinese
attacked the railway office with stones, dragging away the
Chinese clerks and interpreters working for the Russians.
> ...
> By 1904 enough progress had been made on the development of
the city to embolden the Comte Cassini, Russian minister to the
United States, to declare that “Harbin and Dalniy are monuments
to Russian progressiveness and civilization.”[12]
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The part in bold summarizes the correct Chinese attitude towards
Russia which existed prior to Westernization.
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> In the mid-1990s the mayor of Dalian, Bo Xilai, conceived the
idea of renovating the remaining Russian-era structures on the
street, adding new ones built in a Russian style, and renaming
the street Russian Street. Work on the project began in 1999 and
brought in Russian architects and other experts. Eight Russian
era buildings were renovated, including the former Russian
Dalniy City Hall, six new buildings were built, and six other
existing structures were given "Russian façades" to match the
street's theme. The newly renovated street was inaugurated on 1
October 2000.[14]
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The part in bold summarizes the Chinese Eurocentrist attitude
towards Russia accompanying Westernization.
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Russia, the Last Colonial Empire
DIR By: rp
Date: April 13, 2022, 8:41 pm
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I was just watching this video on "Vladivostok":
HTML https://youtu.be/pXAS-xv-aKw
You would think that the ethnic makeup of the residents would at
least have some "Asiatic" admixture, given that the town borders
China, and that this would be reflected in the phenotypes. But
no; the demographics seem to be monoethnically "White", which
suggests that the original inhabitants were displaced.
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Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 13, 2022, 9:22 pm
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"You would think that the ethnic makeup of the residents would
at least have some "Asiatic" admixture"
I know you put "" around it, but it is still inaccurate. This is
the only correct definition of Asia:
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Roman_Empire_-_Asia_%28125_AD%29.svg/924px-Roman_Empire_-_Asia_%28125_AD%29.svg.png
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> The word "Asia" comes from the Greek word
Ἀσία, originally only applied to the
eastern shore of the Aegean Sea,[1] known to the Lydians who
occupied it as Assuwa. It came to be used by the Greeks for all
of Lydia (the northwestern part of what is today Turkey), that
shore being the closest part of Lydia to modern-day Greece. The
Roman province of Asia occupied almost exactly the same
territory as that of the Lydian kingdom.
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So no, I would not expect to see much Lydian blood in Manchuria.
"the town borders China"
The town was in China until Russia moved the border!
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladivostok#Names_and_etymology
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> Chinese maps from the Yuan dynasty (1271–1368) label
Vladivostok as Yongmingcheng (永明城;
Yǒngmíngchéng).[citation needed] Since the Qing dynasty,
the city has been known as Haishenwai (海參崴;
Hǎishēnwăi) in Chinese, from the Manchu Haišenwai
(Manchu:
ᡥᠠᡳᡧᡝᠨᠸᡝᡳ; Möllendorff:
Haišenwai; Abkai: Haixenwai) or 'small seaside
village'.[17]
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By the way, how Eurocentrist is present-day China? Here is
another exhibit:
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> In China, Vladivostok is now officially known by the
transliteration
符拉迪沃斯托克
(Fúlādíwòsītuōkè), although the historical
Chinese name 海参崴
(Hǎishēnwǎi) is still often used in common
parlance and outside Mainland China to refer to the
city.[18][19] According to the provisions of the Chinese
government, all maps published in China have to bracket the
city's Chinese name.[20]
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HTML https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/diplomatic-decolonization/msg1207/#msg1207
"the original inhabitants were displaced."
Yep:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/msg7661/#msg7661
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Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire
DIR By: rp
Date: April 13, 2022, 9:38 pm
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"So no, I would not expect to see much Lydian blood in
Manchuria."
What I meant to say was ethnic Manchu features. But I do not see
any among the "residents" (settlers).
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