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Re: Mate choice copying
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 21, 2024, 12:46 am
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"I never thought about these points but I feel like I always
knew this..."
I have explained similar concepts in the past:
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/our-enemies-concede-that-judaism-is-rightist/comment-page-1/#comment-180200
[quote]I would have no problem in principle with eating eggs
from GENUINELY free hens (not the present-day scam “free-range”
where there is a so-called “exit” that none of the hens can
realistically reach). Back in the Neolithic era, it would have
made perfect sense for hens to congregate voluntarily on Aryan
subsistence farms (where they would get not only food but also
refuge from predators (human and non-human)), and the Aryans
would get their eggs in return. This only became corrupted when
non-Aryan humans who had learned farming imprisoned the
congregated hens, and started breeding subsequent generations
deliberately[/quote]
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/our-enemies-concede-that-judaism-is-rightist/comment-page-1/#comment-180220
[quote]“Was it noble of them to assume that the chickens coming
to them for refuge were okay with them eating their eggs? Do you
think that there somehow was communication/consent between the
two species?”
It would only be an assumption if the chickens were not allowed
to choose to leave. What I was describing involved chickens free
to weigh the deal they got on Aryan subsistence farms compared
to deals they could get elsewhere. Indeed, it is entirely
possible that two Aryan subsistence farms had different tax
rules, for example one might prefer taxes payable in manure:
HTML https://www.hgtv.com/outdoors/gardens/animals-and-wildlife/the-straight-poop-on-using-chicken-manure-as-fertilizer
so it would be up to individual chickens to migrate to whichever
they prefer. Remember, back then chickens were not yet
domesticated, so if they didn’t like any available deal, they
could choose to fend for themselves like they were doing the
whole time before Aryan subsistence farms came along! [/quote]
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[quote]“Is it still fair to take the eggs of chickens who are
coming to an Aryan farm for safety, considering how a farm was
pretty much their best bet?”
The Aryan farm has a duty to welcome them, but the chickens also
have a duty to contribute. The question should be: is it fair to
those whose labour produces the food for the chickens, the
houses which protect them, etc. if the chickens are not required
to contribute in return?
“Would egg-taking be a truly consensual trade if the
egg-giver(s) faced death if they do not?”
But we are not the ones threatening the egg-givers with death.
The threat of death comes from the outside predator-prey world
beyond Aryan territory. We may certainly wish to expand our
territory with a view to one day eliminating the threat
altogether, but in that case the chickens have even more of a
duty to contribute so that we can expand sooner! All energy we
supply to the chickens is energy not being supplied to everyone
else who could be converting the next piece of land into part of
the farm (and thus refuge for more chickens). Unless the
chickens pay taxes, they are holding back how soon we can offer
refuge to other chickens! Is this fair to those still waiting
outside?[/quote]
"do you agree with my other points about gatheroids?"
[quote]Gatheroids view hunting/livestock ranching as simply too
much work[/quote]
But they are not the ones who have to do this work. Even in
prehistoric times they could gather and then trade with
hunters/herders to get meat if they wanted meat.
[quote]Gatheroids also like unprocessed foods for the same
reason[/quote]
Again, they could trade for processed food if they wanted
processed foods.
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Re: Mate choice copying
By: rp Date: March 21, 2024, 6:15 am
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Ok, then why did they choose gathering over hunting? We have
established that they do not really care about the non human
victims...
"But they are not the ones who have to do this work. Even in
prehistoric times they could gather and then trade with
hunters/herders to get meat if they wanted meat"
Doesn't this support my point though? They would be ok with
eating meat but were not willing to hunt themselves?
"I have explained similar concepts in the past:'"
This is how I assumed milk used to be obtained. On the other
hand, I thought eggs contained a live embryo. I guess this
helped me avoid eggs at least...
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Re: Mate choice copying
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 21, 2024, 7:04 pm
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"Ok, then why did they choose gathering over hunting?"
Division of labour?
"They would be ok with eating meat but were not willing to hunt
themselves?"
This is actually quite common.
"This is how I assumed milk used to be obtained."
There could well have been cows seeking refuge at Aryan farms,
but as I have explained previously, the only circumstances under
which milk could have been ethically obtained is the rare
scenario when the cow seeking refuge had just given birth to a
calf (for whom the milk was intended) who died before reaching
the farm.
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Re: Mate choice copying
By: rp Date: March 21, 2024, 7:26 pm
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"Division of labour?"
Can you please elaborate?
"There could well have been cows seeking refuge at Aryan farms,
but as I have explained previously, the only circumstances under
which milk could have been ethically obtained is the rare
scenario when the cow seeking refuge had just given birth to a
calf (for whom the milk was intended) who died before reaching
the farm."
So technically speaking, it would be okay to consume milk from a
free range cow who produces milk in such a scenario. But I
foresee subhumans eventually selectively breeding those cows to
produce milk in excess and artificially inseminating them, which
is of course sustainable evil, which means I would not support
consuming milk at all.
BTW:
HTML https://www.google.com/search?q=cow+insemination+history&oq=cow+insemination+history&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDMzMjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&client=ms-android-tmus-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
[quote]
Reproductive management of beef cattle
The first reported AI success in a domestic animal was performed
by Lazzaro Spallanzani in 1784 with successful AI in a dog.
However, it was only in the early 1900s that a [B]Russian
scientist named E.I. Ivanhow [/B]accomplished the first
successful AI in cattle
[/Quote]
If only Barbarossa had succeeded...
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Re: Mate choice copying
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 21, 2024, 8:06 pm
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"Can you please elaborate?"
They may be bad at hunting. And those who are good at hunting
may also want some fruit etc. in their diet along with meat. So
those who can hunt proficiently would hunt, those who cannot
hunt proficiently would gather, and then the two groups would
trade.
"If only Barbarossa had succeeded..."
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/aesir-vs-vanir/msg16266/#msg16266
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Re: Mate choice copying
By: rp Date: March 21, 2024, 11:23 pm
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Just watched another podcast with their mother and based on her
phenotype, it looks like that's where the older sister got her
Aryan blood from. On the other, hand, I have seen a picture of
their father, and not only is he is so subhuman looking, the
younger daughter is basically a carbon copy of him,
phenotypically speaking, which is where she probably got her non
Aryan blood from.
This Aryan non Aryan pairing was most likely the result of
arranged marriage, which I mentioned previously has been
corrupted by vacancy filling. They most likely belonged to the
same caste and religion, so it was probably assumed that they
were naturally compatible, as ethical vegetarianism is something
their caste/religion mandates. And while it is possible that the
father genuinely took that value to heart, it is also possible
he was merely faking it for marriage (for example, I have known
many male meat eaters who lied about having eaten meat to their
prospective marriage partners). We should also consider the fact
that even if the father had taken the values to heart, the
nobility was learned, not inherited, and hence, would morre
ikely than not produce offspring with non Aryan traits.
Of course, the vacancy filling mindset overlooks all this, and
creates a sense of urgency to get the woman married as she is
"approaching marriageable age". What this caused was an
abundance of women settling for men lower than their standards.
Of course, now it has come full circle, with the gender ratio
being so fvcked up in India that men outnumber women by so much.
And among those women, we would expect the Aryans to be even
less, so Aryan men are basically screwed when it comes to
finding a partner. But of course, if you are a romantic, this
shouldn't matter to you much, except the loneliness.
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Re: Mate choice copying
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 21, 2024, 11:57 pm
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"Just watched another podcast with their mother and based on her
phenotype, it looks like that's where the older sister got her
Aryan blood from. On the other, hand, I have seen a picture of
their father, and not only is he is so subhuman looking, the
younger daughter is basically a carbon copy of him,
phenotypically speaking, which is where she probably got her non
Aryan blood from."
Please post pictures.
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Re: Mate choice copying
By: rp Date: March 22, 2024, 12:10 am
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Father:
HTML https://www.facebook.com/share/ePC9eBEKgfttQnDc/?mibextid=qi2Omg
Will post mother later.
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Re: Mate choice copying
By: rp Date: March 22, 2024, 12:19 am
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Mother (woman on right):
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Mother looks more Aryan than older sister (former has a narrower
face, although she also has a longer face, and her jaw appears a
little heavier), but it was older sister who converted mother
from vegetarianism to veganism. This is probably because
marrying and reproducing reduced the mother's idealism.
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Re: Mate choice copying
By: rp Date: March 23, 2024, 11:01 am
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Damn, the sister seems really nice. Culturally, she seems a
little bit Westernized, but I think this is more due to societal
influence and can be undone. She also seems to be the same age
as me, while the younger one is 2 years younger. Although she is
more educated than me and earns more than me, but I don't mind
this, although I don't know whether this may make it difficult
to undo her Western influence. Really feel like we should have
met earlier.
One thing I find annoying is that marrying across language lines
is even more taboo than marrying across religions/castes in
India. This is because the couple ends up speaking in English,
which makes it really awkward and formal at family gatherings.
There's also the fact that English is simply a colonial
language, and I feel speaking in an Indian language is a good
step toward decolonization. But then again, English is the
language here, and I don't feel Westernized when speaking it
here, so idk.
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