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       Re: Mate choice copying
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 16, 2024, 9:17 pm
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       "(see quora posts)"
       I'm still waiting for you to post a direct link.
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       Re: Mate choice copying
       By: rp Date: March 16, 2024, 9:20 pm
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       The posts are under her real name so I don't want to doxx her.
       Can I send you a PM so we can discuss in private?
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       Re: Mate choice copying
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 16, 2024, 9:42 pm
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       Since she herself chose to post under her real name, how is
       merely linking to the posts "doxxing" her?
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       Re: Mate choice copying
       By: rp Date: March 16, 2024, 9:49 pm
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       I suppose you are right. I guess I am really worried about
       doxxing myself as I don't want my potential love interest to be
       known publicly, as people here could find out who I am by
       looking her up were we to actually get married in the future.
       But I suppose that's getting too far into the future.
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       Re: Mate choice copying
       By: rp Date: March 16, 2024, 9:51 pm
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       "Again, if you actually cared about her you wouldn't be calling
       her "subhuman""
       It may be brutal, but the truth is. I prefer honesty over
       flattery. Also, you are illiterate. I called her face
       "subhuman", not her. We don't call people subhuman unless they
       exhibit subhuman behavior, as we judge people based on their
       actions, not their looks.
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       Re: Mate choice copying
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 16, 2024, 10:21 pm
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       "I prefer honesty"
       Good, but:
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       [quote]I, knowing she was vegan asked "are you a vegetarian as
       well". Although looking back, I should have asked, you don't eat
       cheese?[/quote]
       Neither of these questions are honest if you already know she is
       vegan.
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       Re: Mate choice copying
       By: rp Date: March 16, 2024, 10:33 pm
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       I see. But I didn't want her to know that I knew, as I had
       gathered the information online by searching her name, which I
       thought she might find a little weird. I also wanted to see how
       comfortable she was in declaring herself to be vegan. So perhaps
       the question should have been: "are you vegan as well". And this
       is what I think I had meant to say, I guess it just came out
       differently because I have social anxiety as I stated earlier.
       In this case, the only dishonesty would be me pretending to not
       know she was vegan (hence the question) but nowhere in the
       question does it imply I did not know she was vegan (if
       anything, it is merely confirming something I read about her
       online).
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       Re: Mate choice copying
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 16, 2024, 11:28 pm
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       "I didn't want her to know that I knew, as I had gathered the
       information online by searching her name, which I thought she
       might find a little weird."
       If someone had gathered information about you online, would you
       not prefer to know about it? And would you not be more worried
       if they tried to conceal from you that they had done this than
       if they told you openly that they had done this?
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       Re: Mate choice copying
       By: rp Date: March 16, 2024, 11:46 pm
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       "And would you not be more worried if they tried to conceal from
       you that they had done this than if they told you openly that
       they had done this?"
       Yes. But if the information is publicly available, I wouldn't
       mind if they didn't tell me as I would probably disclose the
       information with them in our conversation anyway. But I concede
       that I would prefer they told me. Just that I wouldn't mind if
       they didn't, unless I explicitly asked them about it and they
       lied.
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       Re: Mate choice copying
       By: rp Date: March 18, 2024, 8:33 am
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       "I have encountered steadfast ethical vegans who think they can
       convert their intended sexual partner to veganism via having a
       sexual relationship with them....."
       We could give them the benefit of the doubt and say that the
       vegans are just naive (similar to those vegans who believe in
       educating non vegans), but if they do not change their views
       even after being presented with the facts (i.e. the meat eaters
       will most likely not give up meat. If anything, the vegan women
       will become less committed to veganism due to the telegonic
       effects of sexual intercourse), it is safe to write them off as
       subhuman.
       Is this reasonable?
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