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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 21, 2024, 3:49 am
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At least both are trying to do vegan activism, so they should be
encouraged to continue. On the other hand, it is never too early
to get them started thinking about what to do in a future when
all possible voluntary converts to veganism have already been
converted, and the world is thus divided between vegans and
non-convertible non-vegans. That is when a moral schism within
the vegan population will occur: between non-Ahimsa vegans
unwilling to wage war to establish a vegan world, and Ahimsa
vegans who are willing to do so.
Among the Ahimsa vegans there will be a further strategic
schism: between legislative vegans who think that outlawing
animal products will suffice (with pre-war non-vegan bloodlines
continuing to be perpetuated), and National Socialist vegans who
understand the necessity of eliminating the pre-war non-vegan
bloodlines as well as of a system to detect post-war-emergent
non-vegan bloodlines* (including those who might suppress their
instincts in a habitat of legally mandated veganism) so as to
remove these also.
(* These will probably mostly come from the non-Ahimsa vegans.)
There are actually more schisms after the above ones, but I will
cover them after you get them started thinking about these ones
first.
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: May 24, 2024, 3:09 am
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"including those who might suppress their instincts in a habitat
of legally mandated veganism"
This is true of many meat eaters who marry vegetarian women.
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: June 2, 2024, 10:14 pm
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>
> "So in short, no one used the True Left argument that it is
wrong for men to want to be more masculine in the first place?"
>
> Unfortunately no. The older sister criticized "toxic
masculinity", but what she was describing was just regular
masculinity.
>
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Full video for reference:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orjOYVEzS1s
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: March 18, 2025, 11:48 pm
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It has been over a year, the thought of the girl is driving me
insane. Part of me feels like she is the "one" I have been
waiting for all my life (add to it the similar upbringing and
religious background). Another part of me wants to feel that
she is too adulterated already. This illustrates the unfortunate
series of events. We both had similar upbringings yet never had
the chance to meet. And due to circumstances (i.e. compulsory
schooling and then college for her), we each went our own
course. In contrast, I guarantee we would have paired up under
different circumstances (non Western civilization). I have never
felt a stronger attraction to anyone like I did to her when I
first watched her video. I just watched a video of her
childhood, where she was singing Indian classical music. It
reminded me of my younger self. Deep down inside her, is that
little girl, which she has suppressed (most likely due to
societal pressure (i.e. unaffectionate sad) and hence has forced
herself to seek out a partner in the conventional way, while
still having enough standards to want him to be vegan.
Similarly, deep down inside me is that little boy. I have been
able to retain some more of my original nobility due to having a
good father (who was the one who instilled in me the values I
hold today), but I am increasingly finding it harder. Writing
her off and not even attempting to converse with her is only
destroying my original nobility further.
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 19, 2025, 2:55 am
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"Writing her off and not even attempting to converse with her"
Why did you do that? I told you to:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-mate-choice-copying-2640/msg25606/#msg25606
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> Go for it!
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HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-mate-choice-copying-2640/msg25608/#msg25608
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> try it first and come back here if she presents
counterarguments which you do not know how to handle.
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HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-mate-choice-copying-2640/msg25618/#msg25618
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> Try to get a photo of you and her together in the same shot
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etc.
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: March 20, 2025, 11:01 pm
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I will admit, my interaction with her sister caused me some
hesitancy in approaching her, as it left a bad taste in my
mouth. So I was trying to convince myself that she was the same
as her younger sister. Which was a failure on my part to see
people as individuals. There is also the fact that I have very
close ties with my family that I don't want to cut off, as they
are somewhat conservative. And even though they are not fully
vegan, I will credit them with aspiring towards the ideal and
creating an environment where I could do the same, as they are
non Western conservative Hindu vegetarians. But perhaps if she
is non Westernized enough, we can work out our differences with
my parents.
On the other hand, not even attempting to converse with her out
of fear from of losing my relationship with my parents will
inevitably lead to me becoming more adulterated and losing the
sensitivity I even had initially when living with them, as I am
lowering my idealism. As a result, I become more cynical, and
find it harder to continue my activism.
Ultimately, I think it relates to me not being firm enough in my
convictions, as I have to confront my parents on other issues as
well (compulsory schooling, childhood neglect).
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 20, 2025, 11:31 pm
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"So I was trying to convince myself that she was the same as her
younger sister."
In earlier posts you already seemed convinced otherwise:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-mate-choice-copying-2640/msg25543/?topicseen#msg25543
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> goddamn, physiognomy doesn't lie. It was the older sister who
first converted to veganism, while the younger one was hesitant.
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Why the turnaround?
"if she is non Westernized enough, we can work out our
differences with my parents."
Precisely what do your parents dislike about her? (And so much
that they would cut you off for merely conversing with her??)
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: March 21, 2025, 12:23 am
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"In earlier posts you already seemed convinced otherwise:"
Yes, that was at my spiritual zenith. Upon leaving my parents
house, I realized that it was now on me to realize the ideals
that they had allowed me to aspire to since an early age, and
hence fulfill the duty that I believed they also wanted me to by
becoming an activist for society. This allowed my Aryanist radar
to max out, allowing me to becoming more broad minded in my
interactions, seeking out activists from all corners of the
earth
(whereas before I did not interact with anyone outside this
forum or my house). I truly believe that it was some Godly force
that made me aware of her at the same time I left the house.
But as my spiritual level declined, I became cynical, and hence,
became a little narrow minded toward everyone who was a little
bit Westernized. But now I realize that it is possible to be
Westernized but still have Aryanist attitudes.
"Precisely what do your parents dislike about her? (And so much
that they would cut you off for merely conversing with her??)"
I suppose her immodest appearance and alcohol use, but given
that she is married, it shouldn't have much effect. But going in
for a relationship is something completely different. I simply
cannot overstate the attraction I felt toward her when I first
saw that video.
On the other hand, I think they would be incredibly appreciative
of other traits of hers.
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 21, 2025, 2:38 am
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"immodest appearance"
?
"I suppose"
"I think they would be"
Wait, so you are just guessing? Your parents haven't actually
said anything about her yet? Have you even told them about her?
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: March 21, 2025, 11:36 am
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"Wait, so you are just guessing? Your parents haven't actually
said anything about her yet? Have you even told them about her?"
Yes. I actually showed them her wedding video, and they
commented (in a negative way) how she was very "modern".
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