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Alcohol
By: rp Date: February 29, 2024, 10:20 pm
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What is the Aryanist view on alcohol consumption? I have met
some vegans who consume alcohol in social settings. Perhaps
racial inferiority on their part? Why if so?
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Re: Alcohol
By: Schwartze Katze Date: March 1, 2024, 2:14 pm
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[quote author=rp link=topic=2630.msg25272#msg25272
date=1709266813]
What is the Aryanist view on alcohol consumption? I have met
some vegans who consume alcohol in social settings. Perhaps
racial inferiority on their part? Why if so?[/quote]
I was under the impression that this Aryanist worldview believes
that only those that have not reproduced and refuse to do so
truly deserve to be left alone by the state?
Do you believe that those who have not reproduced and commit
suicide in the material realm are racially inferior? I think
ultimately your original question parallels this line of
questioning, no?
No non-humans need be harmed in the production of alcohol. And
in the extreme, if someone addicted to alcohol does not
negatively impact anyone else around them what difference does
it make how they choose to kill themselves?
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Re: Alcohol
By: rp Date: March 2, 2024, 12:56 pm
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Alcohol itself seems to be Aryan in origin:
HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_alcoholic_drinks
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Re: Alcohol
By: rp Date: March 2, 2024, 3:57 pm
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One thing I noticed in non-Western countries is that this anti
alcohol push has coincided directly with the propagation of
Western alcohol and a Western "social" drinking culture. I much
rather prefer the non-Western culture of drinking to get rid of
depression, as I find it less aesthetically disgusting (although
I can't quite figure out why this is tbh).
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Re: Alcohol
By: rp Date: March 2, 2024, 4:21 pm
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Regarding the previous post, as usual we see Western
authoritarianism (pseudo moralistic aggression against
non-violent actions) making things worse.
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Re: Alcohol
By: Schwartze Katze Date: March 2, 2024, 5:07 pm
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[quote]One thing I noticed in non-Western countries is that this
anti alcohol push has coincided directly with the propagation of
Western alcohol and a Western "social" drinking culture. I much
rather prefer the non-Western culture of drinking to get rid of
depression, as I find it less aesthetically disgusting (although
I can't quite figure out why this is tbh).[/quote]
I have noticed if I drink a little too much one night, I feel
good the next day (I drink lots of water alongside alcohol when
I drink recently), but the day after that I get a mild depressed
feeling. At least I think that is what the feeling is? However,
if I remind myself it's because I drank alcohol two nights prior
the feeling somewhat subsides. A bit odd...
I do not drink socially when I do decide to. I feel drinking
gives me easier access to other parts of my mind, such as the
subconscious and unconscious parts of the mind. People with
mastery in Jungian analytical psychology have stated this is
indeed a fact, the subconscious and unconscious parts of the
mind are easier to access from the ego after consuming alcohol.
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Re: Alcohol
By: speedarian Date: March 14, 2024, 6:31 am
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Made an account just to comment on this. As i see it, alcohol is
absolutely not a part of aryan culture in any form. Although it
might produce some mildly interesting momentary effects from
time to time, overall, it makes one spiritually numb.
Ľudovít Štúr, the greatest aryan of my country (Slovakia),
was completely against it: "Earth is for food, and food is
necessary for living. It is not necessary for drinking, let
alone a drink so foul and damaging".
Psychedelics are much more worth looking into. Some have effects
that are the exact opposite of addictive vices, as in they make
the user quit their addictions, and they may produce effects so
profound, the user does not wish to take the psychedelic again
for years despite liking the experience, because of the sheer
bewilderment at its profoundness. Mushrooms, LSD and DMT are the
three "big ones". I have no idea of their history or relation to
aryan culture, but their effects cannot be ignored.
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Re: Alcohol
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 14, 2024, 7:12 pm
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"alcohol is absolutely not a part of aryan culture in any form"
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_alcoholic_drinks#Ancient_period
[quote]The earliest evidence of wine was found in what is now
China, where jars from Jiahu which date to about 7000 BC were
discovered. This early rice wine was produced by fermenting
rice, honey, and fruit.[21]
...
A major step forward in our understanding of Neolithic
winemaking came from the analysis of a yellowish residue
excavated by Mary M. Voigt at the site of Hajji Firuz Tepe in
the northern Zagros Mountains of Iran. The jar that once
contained wine, with a volume of about 9 liters (2.5 gallons)
was found together with five similar jars embedded in the
earthen floor along one wall of a "kitchen" of a Neolithic
mudbrick building, dated to c. 5400–5000 BC.[9][24] In such
communities, winemaking was the best technology they had for
storing highly perishable grapes
...
Brewing dates from the beginning of civilization in ancient
Egypt, and alcoholic beverages were very important at that time.
Egyptian brewing began in the city of Hierakonpolis around 3400
BC; its ruins contain the remains of the world's oldest brewery,
which was capable of producing up to three hundred gallons
(1,136 liters) per day of beer.[9]
...
Alcohol distillation likely originated in India.[28] Alcoholic
beverages in the Indus Valley civilization appeared in the
Chalcolithic Era. These beverages were in use between 3000 BC
and 2000 BC. Sura, a beverage brewed from rice meal, wheat,
sugar cane, grapes, and other fruits, was popular among the
Kshatriya warriors and the peasant population.[29]
...
Chicha is a Spanish word for any of variety of traditional
fermented beverages from the Andes region of South America. It
can be made of maize, manioc root (also called yuca or cassava)
or fruits among other things.[41]
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Recent archaeological evidence has also revealed the production
of a similar maize-based intoxicant among the ancestors of the
Pueblo peoples.[44][45][/quote]
"Ľudovít Štúr, the greatest aryan of my country (Slovakia)"
HTML https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%BDudov%C3%ADt_%C5%A0t%C3%BAr
[quote]Štúr proposed a political fusion with Tsarist
Russia[/quote]
""Earth is for food, and food is necessary for living. It is not
necessary for drinking, let alone a drink so foul and
damaging"."
See the part in bold above. Fermentation was a way of preserving
excess harvest food used since the Neolithic era:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermentation#History_of_the_use_of_fermentation
[quote]The use of fermentation, particularly for beverages, has
existed since the Neolithic and has been documented dating from
7000 to 6600 BCE in Jiahu, China,[32] 5000 BCE in India,
Ayurveda mentions many Medicated Wines, 6000 BCE in Georgia,[33]
3150 BCE in ancient Egypt,[34] 3000 BCE in Babylon,[35] 2000 BCE
in pre-Hispanic Mexico,[35] and 1500 BC in Sudan.[36][/quote]
Furthermore, you have to go through alcohol to get vinegar which
was also used for preserving foods via pickling (another
Neolithic food preservation method). Vinegar was also used for
household cleaning prior to the existence of Western detergents
(which should never have been invented).
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Re: Alcohol
By: speedarian Date: March 14, 2024, 8:53 pm
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=2630.msg25444#msg25444
date=1710461520]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_alcoholic_drinks#Ancient_period
[/quote]
I was mistaken, thank you for correcting me, alcohol's
preservative capabilities did not even occur to me. I see now
that is has a place in aryan culture, although I would need to
be convinced on its drinking itself.
[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=2630.msg25444#msg25444
date=1710461520]
Štúr proposed a political fusion with Tsarist Russia.
[/quote]
I did not say he was infallible, just that he was the greatest
aryan in all of Slovakia, and I stand by it. He is the reason
Slovakia as a country exists independently. I am not sure of the
context of what you mentioned, but I think you would appreciate
some of his words:
"Whoever has not suffered to fight for justice has no idea of
its glory."
"We have caught ourselves in the servitude of the holy spirit,
and thus we walk the thorned path of life."
"All nationalist thought is empty if it is not set on a solid
foundation. The folk is the thing, and we, and other countries,
are the folk."
"The lower that a nation stands, the deeper it is trodded in the
life of the flesh, the easier it is exploited and robbed. Like a
person deep in their physical dirt, with no feeling towards
himself, for bodily pleasure, they will easily sell their body
and soul."
"A nation whose soul is rooted in the equality and rights of all
folk, and works to improve them - only such a nation is truly
honest, open, and noble."
"Is it the fault of christianity that nations who first spread
the word of it could not fully grasp its meanings?... Should
other nations not also try? Or have our days been counted and
the world is at its end?"
"Does the catholic church think the world will remain satisfied
with the mere form of religion, rather than its fulfillment?
Does it think it will remain the sole orator of truth?"
"All revolutions can be characterized by their leaders - the
greater of character are these revolutions, the more noble,
thoughtful, and concrete their leadership is."
"Communism turns all into egoists. It turns the folk into a
machine and the people into its cogs."
"The ideal of slavism has been my shining star from the very
childhood. It has warmed me, nourished me, and it always will."
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Re: Alcohol
By: speedarian Date: March 14, 2024, 9:10 pm
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Couple more quotes on alcohol and jewry:
"So that the 'nobility' (rich) could more easily exploit the
folk, it has used the Jew, whom it lended its assets. There was
no end to the suffering of the folk. This alien people, with no
ties to ours, a nation which rejects christianity and thus has
no idea of loving one another, has done great damage to our
nations. With no regard, they sucked the wealth out the people
and they tried many tricks to pick it apart morally. This is
where our great antipathy to this godforbidden tribe is rooted,
and the antipathy towards the rich who allowed it."
"Among the free folk, there is no drinking, for they hold value
of themselves, and thus noone gets drunk. But among the
slavefolk, the drunkards pile up the streets at every
opportunity. The rich have made use of this and filled the
villages with pubs, in which they placed the Jew, a clever
tactician of demoralization and drunkardry."
"These 'privileges' that we get from the rich, these stinked-up
breweries do nothing but make decent man after decent man throw
themselves on the ground for the benefit of the Jew."
"Hungarian liberalism has caught itself on emancipating the
Jews, the disgusting vermin, and throwing the slav into deeper
darkness."
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