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Re: Yandi vs Huangdi myth confirmed
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 26, 2025, 10:00 pm
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Hokkien too:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DUxFvP9TYcw
Woke comment:
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> Mandarin is heavily influenced by the Mongolian invasion
during the Yuan Dynasty and Manchurian invasion during the Qing
Dynasty, the third last and last dynasties of Chinese history,
so Mandarin is actually a late comer linguistically speaking.
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And the inevitable Turanist response:
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> In terms of phonological evolution, Mandarin has been much
more innovative and has changed a lot more than Southern
dialects, making them further from the old pronunciations and
hence Japanese pronunciations (e.g. palitalisation, 今 k >
j).
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Re: Yandi vs Huangdi myth confirmed
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 11, 2026, 4:43 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6utKPtf7fuw
Turanist comment:
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> Mandarin which become all China language and the world are
also learning it.
> Just like the new Chinese characters which are simplified and
easy to write rather than the old one.
> Cantonese are spoken by south east Chinese but it can't be a
national because foreigners are making fun of Cantonese
language. Maybe this guy doesn't know it.
> But when foreigners hear Chinese talking in Mandarin most want
to learn to speak it too.
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Woke comments:
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> The irony is that Cantonese is far closer to what was spoken
by Chinese of the Central Plains during the Tang Dynasty. Not
Mandarin or Putonghua.
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> It seems to me that simplified characters serve the same
purpose as Orwell's Newspeak in 1984: no one will be able to
read anything written before the Revoilution.
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> That's why here in the Philippines, Filipino-Chinese Elders
have disdainful attitude towards usage of Mandarin and
Simplified Chinese Script
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> My family is from Suriname and the Chinese immigrants that
came in the late 1800s and early 1900s all speak Cantonese. They
have developed well within a shared Surinamese identity while
keeping their original culture. The new Chinese immigrants all
speak Mandarin and have not had a chance to integrate yet. You
can definitely tell them apart!
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> When I went back to Shanghai this year totally unrecognisable.
Most speak Mandarin. I thought at least some of the smaller
mom/pop store and resturants would be Shanghainese... but NOPE.
Mostly Mandarin.
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> What used to be Cantonese in Chinatown is now Mandarin
busineses replacing cha chan tang and hk bbq with hot pot and
szechuan restaurants. Even Chinatown evolves while I still
reminisce about the 4 Gods of cantopop and old TVB shows my
grandma recorded on VHS.
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> gosh I just love 80s and 90s Cantonese music so much! Growing
up in Guangdong in the 90s before the return I remember
Cantonese was seen as the cool kids' dialect. All the cool new
movies and songs came out in Canto first.
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> 80s and 90s Cantopop was my childhood! My parents loved it,
bought so many CDs and played it all the time while they were
working. But as I grew up, they did that less and less, a loss
which I felt acutely 😢
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> Canto needs another HK like golden age of the 80s-early 2000s.
I just don't see any other way.
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> The Hong Kong pop music scene from the 1980s-1990s were the
best with great artists like Leon Lai, Aaron Kwok, Leslie
Cheung, etc. But things that made HK great have fallen
drastically since the 2000s and even worst nowadays in 2026.
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Bonus duet (dual dialect lyrics):
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTsEst0udMI
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Re: Yandi vs Huangdi myth confirmed
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 29, 2026, 3:11 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9oMG7gcBMec
Woke comments:
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> 面 noodle or face
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HTML https://c8.alamy.com/comp/T65JXN/noodle-in-shape-of-smiley-face-curly-spaghetti-for-cooking-3d-illustration-T65JXN.jpg
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> Taiwan was right to keep the original 🇹🇼
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Keep looking at the above picture until you are convinced.
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> The simplified characters are not made up but derived from
ancient writings and has a more direct historical connection
with Cantonese than Mandarin.
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> This is also me with Japanese, a lot of Kanji retains the more
Traditional Aspects of Chinese Characters (although Japan did
went over its own simplification) I don’t like Simplified
Chinese because there’s a lot of characters I’m like ??? For
example
发、郁、叶、头、听
etc while their traditional in Japanese and Cantonese is
発/發、鬱、葉、頭
and 聴
> ...
> Japanese also uses a lot of “Cantonese Logic” for Characters
for example 有 is to have or exist (Japanese uses the same
有る) and while they use a different character
無 for 冇 I find the logic really similar and I was
actually surprised this isn’t a character in Japanese because
both mean to not have or not exist, Mandarin doesn’t make that
distinction I think and just uses 没有
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Re: Yandi vs Huangdi myth confirmed
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 18, 2026, 4:06 am
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Most comprehensive comparison yet:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sr7-1G30A8
Woke comments:
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> the original Yue people might be gone now. Vietnamese and
Southern Chinese are probably their descendants.
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> MANY PEOPLE IN CHINA DON'T ADMIT THE TRUTH THAT SOME OF THEM
ARE YUE
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> Mandarin is very gross and hard to listen to
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> I believe Mandarin was impacted a lot by Mongol and Manchu
languages under Yuan and Qing. South China language like
Cantonese is closer accient Han- Tang dytansies language.
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> That’s why i feel like if an official language is to be used
throughout China, the more ancient dialects should be the
official language
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> Additionally, the Cantonese and Japanese also retain a lot of
Classical Chinese characters, while the late comer Mandarin uses
new characters. To eat is 食 in both Cantonese sik and
Japanese shoku (tabemasu 食べます), but
in Mandarin, it’s the character 吃 chi in Mandarin.
>
> To drink is 飲 yum in Cantonese, and Japanese also uses
the same character nomimasu 飲みます,
whereas in Mandarin, they use the character 喝 he.
>
> To walk, Cantonese uses the character 行 haang, the same
for Japanese ikimasu 行きます, whereas
in Mandarin, they use the character 走。
>
> Both Cantonese and Japanese say “yes” as “hai” 係 in
Cantonese writing and はい in Japanese writing.
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> Japanese is more in tune with Hokkien Minan language
(Fujian/Taiwan).
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> I feel close to South Chinese. Because it looks like a
Japanese. Koreans and North Chinese have very small eyes
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> Korean is a northern people as well they are far off from the
like of southerner
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> And don't ever tell a Japanese person that the Japanese
language is related to Korean, the Japanese people will be
offended if you tell them that.
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