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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: FRG_03 Date: December 7, 2023, 10:32 pm
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Vrilya I want to say I apologize for arguing with you we may not
agree 100% but it was stupid to nitpick about lesser issues or
be bitter about personality if there is more important matters.
I also had Lyme disease at the time and didn�t know until later.
I also hope instead of trying to justify degeneracy 90srf can
actually take advantage of the rapidly rising anti-Zionist
conscience. The false left and right are taking advantage of
this. Where is the urgency? We can�t wait for every true leftist
to find national socialism on their own. I feel A.H. would be
ashamed of how little progress such (usually) good information
has made in reality. I have been going to protests but they do
little. Emphasize need for action and rather than discussing
unnecessary alienating stuff like this which at best should be
considered far later or probably not at all. The ideal is any
debase feelings people have will vanish after a few generations
of Aryanization and the pain and hate it has caused both side
will die out. That�s my opinion.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: Vrilya Date: December 18, 2023, 12:31 pm
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Its cool dude, I understand where you were coming from. I was a
hardline [s]Sanctuaryan[/s] AS supporter back in the day myself,
I know you were just trying to do the right thing. Lyme disease
does not sound fun at all bro, I hope it goes away
You're right that we've talked so much, that eventually we began
talking our way into disunity and alienating future prospects.
The lack of urgency is crazy, I remember when COVID first hit I
almost felt this antsy FOMO because we didn't have the social
and physical infrastructure needed to exploit the opportunities
back then, or the ones today. It all starts with us,
individually. Aryanists need to act like stateless princes(ses)
in order to fully live up to our worldview, and I hope the
Ascesis Program helps get people on that track.
Reach out to the Ascesis email, I got ideas if you're
interested:
letzte.bataillon@proton.me
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: The Tower Crow Date: September 7, 2024, 4:07 am
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Sexuality is a vulnerable aspect of many people's lives, in
respect to addiction or trauma. Sensitive and impressionable
children, no less any sensitive and impressionable individuals,
need to be protected. This crucial protection is, bizarrely,
being confused with oppression, which is the opposite. When a
child is convinced their preferences are unimportant because
they can't make sound decisions for themselves even regarding
consent to being touched and must defer to adults, how can they
be expected to resist unwanted sexual advances from adults? How
can they be empowered over their own sexuality, when autonomy is
outright denied to them and they're gaslighted and made to feel
confused over their own desires? Even when anxiety and shame
about "hedonism" are put on prepubescent children about their
sexuality which is usually very playful, mild, and innocent?
Newsflash: Subjection to adults by children is LEARNED from
repeated bullying just like this by adults, especially parental
figures. In a just society, children would always feel free to
express their non-consent and reject the requests or demands of
adults. Addiction is the overvaluation of sexuality as a source
of suffering and satisfaction, this is promoted by things like
trauma and fear, peer pressure and overemphasis of sex. In what
world it's promoted by the practice of making decisions for
oneself over one's sexuality, I haven't a clue. If anything this
gives us the opportunity to improve executive control (the
ability to overcome base instincts and direct oneself toward the
attainment of higher goals.)
Adult supremacism is terribly unjust to children and I'm glad
there are people in the world speaking up against it, as well as
the unfair treatment of those with different sexualities. It's
insane we live in a world (at least in the West) where it's
socially acceptable to express hatred toward children but not
attraction.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 7, 2024, 7:59 pm
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To understand why Western civilization is more MAP-phobic than
non-Western civilizations, we should look at it from an
evolutionary psychology perspective.
Children tend to be more attracted to low sexual dimorphism. It
is only as they physically mature that they become increasingly
attracted to high sexual dimorphism.
So, imagine two civilizations. MAP-phobic civilization P forces
individuals to wait until they are physically mature before
letting them choose spouses. Non-MAP-phobic civilization Q lets
individuals choose spouses at any age. In other words, P forces
individuals to wait until their tastes have adulterated (to
preferring high sexual dimorphism) before they can choose
spouses, whereas Q gives them a chance to choose spouses while
they still possess their original superior tastes (for low
sexual dimorphism). Statistically, the result is that low sexual
dimorphism individuals are more likely to not be chosen in P
than in Q, and hence low sexual dimorphism bloodlines are more
likely to be eliminated in P than in Q. Thus, over many
generations, people in P will become higher in sexual dimorphism
on average than people in Q.
Would non-Westerners would prefer their civilization to be P or
Q? Answer: Q, as low sexual dimorphism people are better suited
to living under hydraulic government due to such people being
typically lower in plebian hubris.
On the other hand, would Westerners prefer their civilization to
be P or Q? Answer: P, of course! P will produce more masculine
men, and hence more Faustians (a subset of masculine men), and
hence more machinists (a subset of Faustians), and hence invent
more new machines, which will enable P to outcompete Q.
Given enough time, non-MAP-phobic civilizations will eventually
be outcompeted by MAP-phobic civilizations. Therefore the
MAP-phobic civilizations must be destroyed first.
Related:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/aryan-hydraulic-empire/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/plebian-hubris/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-folkish-imperialism/
"It's insane we live in a world (at least in the West) where
it's socially acceptable to express hatred toward children but
not attraction."
At least on this forum, we should be setting an example of
non-MAP-phobia. But MAP-phobia has been so internalized that
even many people here self-repress:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/debate-with-the-progressives/msg15331/#msg15331
Getting rid of this self-repression is the first step to work
on.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: rp Date: September 27, 2024, 7:56 pm
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"Children tend to be more attracted to low sexual dimorphism. It
is only as they physically mature that they become increasingly
attracted to high sexual dimorphism."
100% true. When I was picked on for one aspect of my low sexual
dimorphism (ectomorphy) being a mismatch with an other aspect of
my high sexual dimorphism (deep voice), the child in me wanted
to embrace my low sexual dimorphism, as I felt that was being
true to my original self, while the adult in me wanted to become
more dimorphic. Still, I find a constant battle between my child
self and adult self. Part of it is definitely due to puberty,
but even before puberty, there is a constant pressure to conform
to adult standards due to compulsory schooling.
#Post#: 30871--------------------------------------------------
Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: rp Date: September 2, 2025, 12:49 am
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Example of gravure?:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfyxP00eTXs
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 2, 2025, 7:14 am
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Fanservice is a frequent advertizing tool, but should we call
such advertizing gravure? In the same way that just because a TV
ad involves acting does not mean we call it "drama", so just
because a TV ad involves fanservice does not mean we call it
"gravure". In the same way that drama should refer to acting for
the sake of storytelling (as opposed to sales pitching), so
gravure should refer to fanservice for the sake of escapism (as
opposed to sales pitching).
In my opinion, the world depicted in gravure should be a
minimally economic world. Some gravure videos involve extensive
shopping scenes, which to me is already skating on thin ice. If
the gravure idol additionally starts haggling for discounts etc.
on camera, the atmosphere is ruined.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: Aucontraire Date: January 11, 2026, 5:55 pm
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What happened to "children are innocent" and "adults are
corrupt"? Why would you want to allow mature, adulterated
individuals to go into intimate relationships with the young and
vulnerable?
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 11, 2026, 7:19 pm
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To prohibit a voluntary relationship would be to initiate
violence.
See also The Tower Crow's post:
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