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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 23, 2023, 10:02 pm
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"Okay so seeing as how this originally started with me posting
that Filthy Frank song to troll"
Thank you for proving me correct:
[quote]I am not convinced that you are arguing in good
faith.[/quote]
"openly supports child prostitutiion"
That is old news:
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/nopegida/comment-page-1/#comment-97323
[quote]“Aryanism.Net dedicates a blog entry to the vandalization
of a mosque and a ZC organization that is reacting to a
jew-invented problem. Ok. Could someone please explain to me why
there was no blog entry last August, when it was discovered that
1400 English children had been sexually abused for years in
Rotherham, UK by people of “Pakistani heritage”?”
Because nobody is calling for rape – it’s either rape (no
consent) or it’s not (consent); we do not use such vague terms
as “sexual abuse”[/quote]
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/can-2018-start-any-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-178235
[quote]“The Rotherham scandal is not a hoax.”
The ignored scandal is that consensual sex is punishable by law
if one side regrets it later.[/quote]
But you are illiterate so maybe you missed it.
"I can talk about Democrats (literally) being in bed with
Epstein just as much as I can talk about Republicans doing the
same."
The question is not which side has more MAPs, but which side
uses more MAP-phobia in its rhetoric (answer: Red by far). But
you are illiterate so maybe you did not understand the question.
"you like honest degenerates"
I am still waiting for you to explain what is degenerate about
gravure.
"The NSDAP also ruined the "R&R" of the subversive Jews
polluting German society"
[quote]hard-working people who have every reason to need relief
from their hard daily labors, who need to reaffirm life, to
recover from the weariness, cares, and burdens of every
day[/quote]
Does this sound like a description of Jews, which the NSDAP
condemned principally for profiting from non-labour-based means?
But you are illiterate, so maybe it does to you.
"Because its NATO you idiot."
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"I am not going to timestamp for you."
I will take that as failure to substantiate your claim.
"Your old self would prefer the "you" today to be dead."
My old self was watching gravure on VCD and even VHS.
"kids being sexually exploited"
Yet you failed to point out where on the example video this
occurs.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: Vrily Date: November 24, 2023, 9:24 am
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>Thank you for proving me correct
Like I said, this started as a troll but became a serious
conversation. If you cannot comprehend this, then perhaps you
are illiterate.
>
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Telling how you have to find small segments from your own long
ass comments from five to nine years ago from two random blog
articles (out of countless others) with 122/40 other comments on
them to weakly back this up. Notice how this pro-pedo stance
never was expressly stated on the main site. Although, I'm
betting that you're going to now twist the semantics of a small
sentence from it to your favor with a lot of logical leaps of
faith (which says a lot in itself). At the very least, my points
remains that if this supposedly long-time pro-pedophilia stance
was open from the beginning, most people here probably would
never have became Aryanists to begin with; this is not what we
became Aryanists for.
>The question is not which side has more MAPs, but which side
uses more MAP-phobia in its rhetoric (answer: Red by far). But
you are illiterate so maybe you did not understand the question.
I understood you were asking about rhetoric but ignored it
because its irrelevant. Rhetoric alone does not fully describe
which side has more pedos, and reality is more nuanced than you
think; voting Republican does not make someone or a state 100%
evil by default. Amazing how much you jack off the Democratic
party as if they aren't the Jew-loving neoliberals that they
are. Besides, morality is based off of absolute values. It is
not relative to what our enemies like or dislike. You might be
reactionary, but I am not.
>
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le funny Alex Jones picture is not an argument. I don't believe
the person who has read Savitri Devi while saying "WESTERN
CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!" for years is unaware that Western
hypocrisy exists. You lost.
>Does this sound like a description of Jews, which the NSDAP
condemned principally for profiting from non-labour-based means?
But you are illiterate, so maybe it does to you.
In the very quote you provided, Goebbels is clearly talking
about women in advertising and cinema, not pedophilia. I know
you really want to pretend that he was pro-pedo by twisting
words, but if he was, he would have outright just said so. He
was not defending the pink triangles he helped put in
concentration camps.
>I will take that as failure to substantiate your claim.
If media of children is made to make them sexually tantalizing,
then I do not need to provided specific timestamps in said media
to prove that they are being sexualized. If you want specifics,
look at that Cuties video I sent. Furthermore, you have failed
to address the point that sexualization of children counter
original nobility. Do you think no one notices it when you try
to derail from points you cannot disprove?
>My old self was watching gravure on VCD and even VHS.
Child gravure? How convenient. Sounds like you just admitted to
possessing child pornography.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 24, 2023, 12:41 pm
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"this started as a troll but became a serious conversation."
I do not take liars seriously when they subsequently claim to
tell the truth.
"main site"
[quote]Far-rightists, in their pseudo-moralistic aggression
towards sundry non-violent sexual preferences that do not happen
to be their own preferences, to the extent of calling for
violence against people with such preferences, are merely the
other side of the same degenerate coin. In contrast, a genuinely
healthy True Left society is one where no non-violent sexual
preference is worth any more attention than a preference for a
particular screensaver or a particular ringtone.[/quote]
[quote]It is not prudery that we demand of society and its
lifestyle, insofar as prudery attacks non-violent sexual
activity while turning a blind eye to (or worse, outright
glorifying) the violence of reproduction.[/quote]
"if this supposedly long-time pro-pedophilia stance was open
from the beginning, most people here probably would never have
became Aryanists to begin with; this is not what we became
Aryanists for."
Do you understand that the ideal of violence never being
initiated logically necessitates being accepting of all
non-violent sexual preferences? Either you share our ideal or
you don't.
"I understood you were asking about rhetoric but ignored it"
This is why I do not take you seriously.
"voting Republican does not make someone or a state 100% evil by
default"
You are still illiterate. This is about demonstrating a positive
correlation between pro-Westernism (which Reds constantly
include in their rhetoric) and MAP-phobia (which Reds constantly
include in their rhetoric), compared to Blues who are both more
critical of Western civilization and less MAP-phobic.
"Goebbels is clearly talking about women in advertising and
cinema, not pedophilia."
He is talking about the role of pleasant imagery in general. You
are as illiterate when reading Goebbels as when reading the main
site.
"If media of children is made to make them sexually tantalizing,
then I do not need to provided specific timestamps in said media
to prove that they are being sexualized."
Trump similarly does not feel any need to provide evidence that
the 2020 election was stolen. That Biden was campaigning is
enough for him.
"Sounds like you just admitted to possessing child pornography."
It sounds like that to you because you are illiterate. And a
Westerner:
HTML https://web.archive.org/web/20160728194637/http://www.axiommagazine.jp/2012/03/10/japanese-gravure-idols-101/
[quote]From a westerner’s perspective it is difficult to
understand how an industry that uses such young models can
thrive without a public outcry to what would be considered the
exploitation of minors. However, it is important to note the
cultural differences that make gravure idols such a popular and
widely accepted aspect of Japanese media.
Contrary to AV (Adult Video) idols, gravure idols do not pose
for nude photography or engage in sexual acts. Although they
often do not leave much to the imagination, gravure photography
is not considered pornographic.[/quote]
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: why? Date: November 24, 2023, 6:08 pm
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Why do you want to kill me so bad?
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: Vrily Date: November 24, 2023, 9:30 pm
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>I do not take liars seriously when they subsequently claim to
tell the truth.
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>where no non-violent sexual preference is worth any more
attention than a preference for a particular screensaver or a
particular ringtone... Do you understand that the ideal of
violence never being initiated logically necessitates being
accepting of all non-violent sexual preferences? Either you
share our ideal or you don't.
This applies to LGBT and recreational sex, not pedophilia. The
initiatory/retaliatory violence dichotomy is crucial, but it
does not cover life's nuances. If I am "violent" for wanting to
stop a kid from jumping into a pit of punji sticks and (at best)
suffering lifelong physical and emotional scars because of it,
then so be it.
But you are kidding yourself if you seriously believe that
Aryanism does not support any initiatory violence itself. For
instance, you can be non-violently racist by adhering to your
tribe's clothing, food, music, culture, superstition, Et cetera
by not hurting anyone or anything. But as monoculturalists, we
know that even "non-violent racism" is bad in itself. Why?
Because racism is still the prioritization of selfishness over
honor. And in the real world, "non-violent racism" very quickly
turns into tribalism and all the cruelty it entails. Just as we
know that even "non-violent pedophilia" is bad in itself, as it
is obscenely exploitative and easily one of the worse ways to
adulterate original nobility. In the real world, your
"non-violent pedophilia" quickly turns into child r@pe and human
trafficking. "Plausible deniability" doesn't mean shít.
>This is why I do not take you seriously...This is about
demonstrating a positive correlation between pro-Westernism
(which Reds constantly include in their rhetoric) and MAP-phobia
(which Reds constantly include in their rhetoric), compared to
Blues who are both more critical of Western civilization and
less MAP-phobic.
Dude you're just mad I knew what you wanted me to say and
recognized it to be inherently fallacious. This doesn't make me
"illiterate", as you are so anally fixated on saying. This means
you are wrong. Move on. So in the spirit of Christmas, I'll
reiterate what I said before:
"I understood you were asking about rhetoric but ignored it
because its irrelevant. Rhetoric alone does not fully describe
which side has more pedos, and reality is more nuanced than you
think; voting Republican does not make someone or a state 100%
evil by default. Amazing how much you jack off the Democratic
party as if they aren't the Jew-loving neoliberals that they
are. Besides, morality is based off of absolute values. It is
not relative to what our enemies like or dislike. You might be
reactionary, but I am not."
>He is talking about the role of pleasant imagery in general.
If you need him to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>Trump similarly does not feel any need to provide evidence that
the 2020 election was stolen. That Biden was campaigning is
enough for him.
Cool Reddit analogy bro. But, I will add that kids don't need to
be naked for "child gravure" to be problematic. Otherwise, I
will reiterate:
"If media of children is made to make them sexually tantalizing,
then I do not need to provided specific timestamps in said media
to prove that they are being sexualized. If you want specifics,
look at that Cuties video I sent. Furthermore, you have failed
to address the point that the sexualization of children counter
original nobility. Do you think no one notices it when you try
to derail from points you cannot disprove?"
>It sounds like that to you because you are illiterate. And a
Westerner:
Aha! Your good friend plausible deniability is here to say that
"soft" child pörn doesn't count because it requires...
"imagination"...? For some reason, I'm not very convinced that
you don't have any cp tucked away or legally accessible
somewhere. And I don't think anyone else here is very convinced
either, even @rp. Aren't you? I bet you are.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 24, 2023, 10:04 pm
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"This applies to LGBT and recreational sex, not pedophilia."
If you allow yourself to make arbitrary exceptions to a
principle, you do not believe in that principle.
""non-violent pedophilia" is bad in itself, as it is obscenely
exploitative and easily one of the worse ways to adulterate
original nobility"
I am still waiting for you to explain how.
"inherently fallacious"
How?
"you are wrong"
How?
"kids don't need to be naked for "child gravure" to be
problematic."
Problematic to Westerners, such as yourself.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: Vrily Date: November 24, 2023, 10:40 pm
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You know Stirling lost when he can't derail any longer so you
just repeat what he is trying to ignore until he shíts the bed
;)
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>If you allow yourself to make arbitrary exceptions to a
principle, you do not believe in that principle.
LOL SAYS YOU NIGGA!!!!! GAHAHHAHAHAHAHA you flaunt Aryanism and
make up crap on the spot all of the time. Only my exception is
NOT "arbitrary", nor are the other exceptions Aryanism makes:
"This applies to LGBT and recreational sex, not pedophilia. The
initiatory/retaliatory violence dichotomy is crucial, but it
does not cover life's nuances. If I am "violent" for wanting to
stop a kid from jumping into a pit of punji sticks and (at best)
suffering lifelong physical and emotional scars because of it,
then so be it.
But you are kidding yourself if you seriously believe that
Aryanism does not support any initiatory violence itself. For
instance, you can be non-violently racist by adhering to your
tribe's clothing, food, music, culture, superstition, Et cetera
by not hurting anyone or anything. But as monoculturalists, we
know that even "non-violent racism" is bad in itself. Why?
Because racism is still the prioritization of selfishness over
honor. And in the real world, "non-violent racism" very quickly
turns into tribalism and all the cruelty it entails. Just as we
know that even "non-violent pedophilia" is bad in itself, as it
is obscenely exploitative and easily one of the worse ways to
adulterate original nobility. In the real world, your
"non-violent pedophilia" quickly turns into child r@pe and human
trafficking. "Plausible deniability" doesn't mean shít."
>I am still waiting for you to explain how.
How does HEDONISM and SEXUAL ASSAULT counter ORIGINAL NOBILITY?
WHAT? I am not arguing about this, sexual hedonism is
antithetical to the spiritually minded nature of original
nobility. Keep on running your mouth you rotting old
ḟaggot.
>"inherently fallacious" How?... "you are wrong" How?
"I understood you were asking about rhetoric but ignored it
because its irrelevant. Rhetoric alone does not fully describe
which side has more pedos, and reality is more nuanced than you
think; voting Republican does not make someone or a state 100%
evil by default. Amazing how much you jack off the Democratic
party as if they aren't the Jew-loving neoliberals that they
are. Besides, morality is based off of absolute values. It is
not relative to what our enemies like or dislike. You might be
reactionary, but I am not."
>Problematic to Westerners, such as yourself.
Problematic to Aryanists. If your life ever amounted to anything
you wouldn't be spending hours shítposting everyday on an
obscure trying to slowly convince (four) people that pedophilia
is okay. I'm better than you, and I think you should cut
yourself. I think you should hurt yourself. I think you'd be
really good at it.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 24, 2023, 11:06 pm
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"I am not arguing about this"
This is why I do not take you seriously.
"Problematic to Aryanists."
Initiated violence is problematic to Aryanists. Initiated
violence is what you have admitted you want you do to people
with non-violent sexual preferences that you dislike. Therefore
you are problematic to Aryanists.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: false flag Date: November 24, 2023, 11:40 pm
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I'm not a pedophile if that's what your trying to imply.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
By: Westerners Date: November 25, 2023, 3:13 am
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BRACE YOURSELVES!!! Look how short these dresses are and in the
second photo we can see female nipples. Better delete this post
Vrily might be contemplating exploiting one of these girls...
::) ;D
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[quote]What does it mean if someone is projecting?
Projection is a type of defense mechanism or means of coping.
People may use defense mechanisms and unconscious mental
strategies to cope with stressful or anxiety-provoking thoughts
and experiences. When someone unconsciously attributes their
thoughts, feelings, or behaviors to another person, they are
projecting.[/quote]
[quote]Ad Hominem
(Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of
addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly
attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the
argument. The fallacious attack can also be direct to membership
in a group or institution.[/quote]
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