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       #Post#: 23914--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
       By: Spruce Date: November 20, 2023, 6:26 pm
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       What do we think about songs that are vulgar satire aimed to
       sarcastically highlight serious social issues? In this case,
       here's a song critiquing Nickolodean's sexualization of
       actresses playing girls who are supposed to be middle and high
       schoolers:
  HTML https://youtu.be/pgVIL0mo6yA
       #Post#: 23916--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 20, 2023, 7:01 pm
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       The song itself is painful to listen to. Also, MAP-phobia is
       Western.
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       Re: Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: rp Date: November 20, 2023, 7:39 pm
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       The singer is a degenerate HAPA known as Filthy Frank (Joji
       Miller) who has also made fun of vegans.
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       Re: Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: Spruce Date: November 20, 2023, 8:49 pm
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       wow !
       how is 'map phobia' Western? and what do you have against half
       asian half pasific islander people?
       #Post#: 23926--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: rp Date: November 20, 2023, 9:04 pm
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       Nothing against HAPAs, just degenerate ones who try to be
       "White"
       #Post#: 23931--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 20, 2023, 11:24 pm
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       "how is 'map phobia' Western?"
       In Western societies, MAP-phobia today is not much different
       than how homophobia (also Western) was a century ago. It is
       socially obligatory to be (or at least pretend to be)
       moralistically horrified by anyone even suspected of being a
       MAP, who is instantly viewed as mentally ill at best and worthy
       of being lynched at worst. In non-Western societies, there is no
       such pretentious behaviour.
       Mainstream pop culture products in the West targeted at MAPs
       have to be marketed with plausible deniability, as with the
       Nickelodeon shows you mentioned, as opposed to being marketed
       openly as products catering to MAPs, as in the non-Western
       example I provided here:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/eroticism-sexuality/msg20345/#msg20345
       More examples:
  HTML https://static.mercdn.net/item/detail/orig/photos/m82857367327_1.jpg
  HTML https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51YgAUQfBNL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg
       Magazines like these can be bought off the shelf in convenience
       stores. This is what a proudly non-MAP-phobic pop culture scene
       is like.
       #Post#: 23936--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
       By: Spruce Date: November 21, 2023, 9:19 am
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       'In non-Western societies, there is no such pretentious
       behaviour.'
       judaism is openly pro pedophilia, and the west is full of
       pedophilia from pervy church leaders to french tv shows on
       netflix. people in the west pushing pedophilia are most often
       child r*pists jews. ... not people we'd consider our friends..
       and what you call 'non-western societies' are not homogeneously
       pro-pedo either i have personally seen a common theme in
       japanese animes where scenes where pervets and pedos get killed
       'Mainstream pop culture products in the West targeted at MAPs
       have to be marketed with plausible deniability, as with the
       Nickelodeon shows you mentioned, as opposed to being marketed
       openly as products catering to MAPs, as in the non-Western
       example I provided here'
       this sounds like a bunch of adults sexualizing children.. doesnt
       such hedonism counter original nobility? nevermind the physical
       and emotional harm to chilren this entai;ls
       #Post#: 23943--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 21, 2023, 4:46 pm
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       "judaism is openly pro pedophilia"
       No, Judaism is accepting of Jewish adults having sex with
       non-Jewish children. Do you honestly think Judaism is equally
       accepting of non-Jewish adults having sex with Jewish children?
       "the west is full of pedophilia from pervy church leaders"
       All of whom try to hide their interest from the public, which
       just proves my point.
       "to french tv shows on netflix"
       Post an example that does not involve plausible deniability.
       "people in the west pushing pedophilia are most often child
       r*pists jews"
       Jews like to on one hand maintain social stigma against certain
       behaviours, and on the other hand simultaneously encourage
       precisely those stigmatized behaviours among those in positions
       of power. This makes it easy for them to subsequently blackmail
       and thereby control the participants to the benefit of Zionism.
       Your attitude (reinforcing the stigma) helps this Jewish
       strategy succeed.
       "what you call 'non-western societies' are not homogeneously
       pro-pedo"
       They have been Westernized, duh! Also, paedophiles =/= MAPs.
       Paedophiles cease to be attracted to the same individual after
       they overage. MAPs do not. Thus paedophiles are structurally
       inclined towards infidelity (and hence despicable) whereas MAPs
       are not. Claiming all MAPs are paedophiles is insulting (and
       just plain inaccurate) for this reason.
       "i have personally seen a common theme in japanese animes where
       scenes where pervets and pedos get killed"
       Did they initiate violence? If so, they deserve it. If not, post
       an example. Context matters.
       "this sounds like a bunch of adults sexualizing children..
       doesnt such hedonism counter original nobility?"
       The burden is on you to explain how this is worse than any other
       gravure.
       If it were up to me, I would eliminate mountaineering:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg10405/#msg10405
       skydiving:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg10444/#msg10444
       golf:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/anti-gentrification/msg16976/#msg16976
       and hundreds of other far more extravagant hedonistic activities
       long before I even begin to worry about gravure.
       "nevermind the physical and emotional harm to chilren this
       entai;ls"
       I of course oppose anyone (irrespective of age) being forced to
       do gravure involuntarily. But by the same token I support anyone
       (again irrespective of age) doing gravure voluntarily. Anyone
       who would prohibit children (but not adults) from voluntarily
       doing gravure is an adult supremacist.
       #Post#: 23971--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
       By: Spruce Date: November 22, 2023, 8:37 am
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       'No, Judaism is accepting of Jewish adults having sex with
       non-Jewish children.'
       pedophilia is pedophilia, it makes no difference if they have
       double standards over it or not
       'All of whom try to hide their interest from the public, which
       just proves my point.'
       they really dont anymore.. the only ting being prove d here is
       that those running the west are weirdos who have to hide their
       depravity from the people
       'Post an example that does not involve plausible deniability.'
       ? ??? 'plausible deniability' or not, sexualizing children is an
       insult to original nobility ..
       but since you asksed
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNRQYExp-8k
       'Jews like to on one hand maintain social stigma against certain
       behaviours, and on the other hand simultaneously encourage
       precisely those stigmatized behaviours among those in positions
       of power. This makes it easy for them to subsequently blackmail
       and thereby control the participants to the benefit of Zionism.
       Your attitude (reinforcing the stigma) helps this Jewish
       strategy succeed.'
       jews did not invent pedophilia hate. i am saying 'drugs are
       bad', you are saying 'jews blackmail peopel with drugs,
       therefore its your fault for hating drugs'
       'They have been Westernized, duh!'
       how? the vast majority of non western countries hate lgbt
       politics for this reason.. they view it as a way for the west to
       take controll of theyre countries and exploit children. being
       gay is #ok but we have to admit that now a days lgbt especially
       when targeted at non western countries is a pedo cia psyop. the
       opposite is more truer, that western p*rn and immodesty is what
       has been infecting non western countries
       'Paedophiles cease to be attracted to the same individual after
       they overage. MAPs do not. Thus paedophiles are structurally
       inclined towards infidelity (and hence despicable) whereas MAPs
       are not.'
       this is youre OWN definition you made up to try and make 'MAPs'
       seem 'not so bad'
       'The burden is on you to explain how this is worse than any
       other gravure.'
       children have more original nobility than adaults, therefor any
       sexualizing hedonism directed at them is worse than adults. also
       children are much easier to physically and emotionally
       intimidate, mislead, and bribe than an adault. is giving a kid
       candy for s*x bad? absolutelty. but if you view this as just a
       'business trnasaction' then you have no understanding of
       childcare
       'But by the same token I support anyone (again irrespective of
       age) doing gravure voluntarily. Anyone who would prohibit
       children (but not adults) from voluntarily doing gravure is an
       adult supremacist.'
       you are pretending that any kid doing 'gravure' voluntarily
       isn't facing any subtle or overt pressure from weirdos like you
       to do it
       #Post#: 23980--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
       By: NoDoubleStandards Date: November 22, 2023, 5:41 pm
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       [quote]'But by the same token I support anyone (again
       irrespective of age) doing gravure voluntarily. Anyone who would
       prohibit children (but not adults) from voluntarily doing
       gravure is an adult supremacist.'[/quote]
       "you are pretending that any kid doing 'gravure' voluntarily
       isn't facing any subtle or overt pressure from weirdos like you
       to do it"
       No, what he's actually saying is that if you're going to ban
       voluntary gravure for children you need to ban voluntary gravure
       for adults as well, or you are an adult supremacist. This is
       what not having double standards actually looks like.
       [quote]'Jews like to on one hand maintain social stigma against
       certain behaviours, and on the other hand simultaneously
       encourage precisely those stigmatized behaviours among those in
       positions of power. This makes it easy for them to subsequently
       blackmail and thereby control the participants to the benefit of
       Zionism. Your attitude (reinforcing the stigma) helps this
       Jewish strategy succeed.'[/quote]
       "jews did not invent pedophilia hate. i am saying 'drugs are
       bad', you are saying 'jews blackmail peopel with drugs,
       therefore its your fault for hating drugs'"
       No, he's saying Jews would say "drugs are bad" and then get
       western politicians to do drugs so as to have something to black
       mail them with.
       Furthermore, if every drug addict was prohibited from
       reproducing why should we care if they do drugs and ruin their
       lives with them? It is their life after-all, correct? Once they
       are dead their drug addicted blood line has come to an end. Or,
       do you really not care about the children in the generations to
       follow after-all? You must not, because you have no problem with
       F@#cked up people reproducing themselves?
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