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Re: Western Democracy
By: guest55 Date: August 5, 2021, 11:22 pm
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Ted Nugent tells Tucker tyrants can 'kiss his a**'
[quote]Musician Ted Nugent joined 'Tucker Carlson Today' to
discuss defending the Second Amendment.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQ7hFDIl4Y
[quote]
Chris Grignon
11 hours ago
Ted Nugent for President you think they went crazy for Trump
[/quote]
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/re-trump-disapproval-377/?message=3918
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Re: Western Democracy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 7, 2021, 10:16 pm
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"I've actually started to see more and more communist-leaning
False Leftists say they reject "electoralism". They're so close,
but democracy is still too sacred and taboo for them to speak
out against it explicitly."
Communists are devout progressives. They can in theory believe
that democracy is inferior, but only to a system newer than
democracy (e.g. rule by AI?). They will never believe that
democracy could be inferior to ancient systems of autocracy.
Communists are among those least capable of nostalgia, as any
nostalgia would contradict their central belief that the best is
yet to come.
Meanwhile:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbhCHQhAxrc
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Re: Western Democracy
By: Zea_mays Date: August 10, 2021, 5:17 pm
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=232.msg7949#msg7949
date=1628392583]
Communists are devout progressives. They can in theory believe
that democracy is inferior, but only to a system newer than
democracy (e.g. rule by AI?). [/quote]
Yep, that is pretty much how they react:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy
Let society be run by "experts" or AI algorithms programmed by
those "experts". This will increase administrative efficiency,
but if the educated elite and uneducated masses believe in the
same fundamental principles of Western Civilization (which they
do), things will not fundamentally improve.
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Re: Western Democracy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 23, 2021, 12:40 am
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HTML https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/high-school-captain-and-classmates-fight-back-against-woke-orthodoxy/video/cd78cc25a2ceee65a7209e08f089f4e8
[quote]Student Aiden Brennan has spoken to Sky News Australia
about his fight as school captain against an “orthodoxy” that’s
telling young boys they are “oppressors” and are “guilty of
sins” that happened well before they were born.
Mr Brennan said his classmates voted for him to be captain
because he “wanted to stand up against that”.
He said the school unusually made his cohort have multiple votes
on school captain despite the outcome being the same each time.
“They sort of kept making us vote and they kept getting the same
answer so eventually they had to accept me,” Mr Brennan
said.[/quote]
If you don't want a pro-Western captain, don't use a Western
method of selection (ie. democracy)!
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Re: Western Democracy
By: Zea_mays Date: August 27, 2021, 4:14 pm
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More democracy:
HTML https://i.redd.it/96g4rmgl7lg71.png
Even more democracy:
[quote]When President John F. Kennedy took office in 1961, he
needed Senate approval for 779 of his appointments.
That was a highly irrational way to run a government.
Sixty years later, despite efforts at reform and widespread
recognition of the irrationality, President Biden needs Senate
approval for 1,237 positions — an increase of 59 percent, as a
new report from the Partnership for Public Service discloses.
We’ve gone from irrational to just plain crazy.
How crazy? The Post and the Partnership are tracking 799 of
those positions (leaving out some advisory boards and less
essential jobs). As of this week, only 112 of them have been
filled.
More than six months into his presidency, in other words — more
than an eighth of the way through his term — Biden hardly has
the beginning of an executive team in place.
[...]
At about this point of every administration, you start to see
stories assigning blame for the empty offices. Republicans will
ask why Biden has nominated only 323 of the 799. Administration
officials would say there’s not much point in stacking up
another few hundred nominees for obstructionists such as Sen.
Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), who has been holding up State Department
nominees to grandstand his opposition to the administration’s
stance on a Russia-Germany natural gas pipeline.
But the better question is, why do things this way in the first
place?
[...]
The Senate could insist on true accountability: Confirm the
truly senior positions, let those officials appoint the teams
they want, and then hold those executives responsible for
results.
In turn, those executives would have an experienced, empowered
civil service to rely on, with institutional memory and
long-term commitment.
The country would have a government capable of taking on complex
problems.
Imagine the board of directors of a large corporation appointing
a new chief executive and then forcing that executive to operate
without a team for months and even years.
Shareholders wouldn’t stand for such absurdity. Why should
taxpayers?[/quote]
HTML https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/08/08/us-government-is-designed-failure-new-study-shows-its-getting-steadily-worse/
Why should taxpayers stand for the absurdity of anyone in
government being elected, instead of a qualified appointee?
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The first piece of advice is vote... As if environmentalists
haven't been attempting to do that since the 1960s? What's next,
write to your representative? As if their staffers don't just
shred all the mail without reading it..? What's the democratic
step 3 when voting and writing to your representative don't
work? Give up and accept our doom because people care more about
democracy than environmentalism, I guess.
[quote]The climate crisis is an accelerating calamity of our own
making. So what would it take to turn things around?
[...]
Vote. Divest. Plant trees. Recycle. Remove fossil fuel
subsidies. Go renewable. We don’t need to accept the inevitable
demise of life on the planet
[...]
But embedded in the gloom and doom of the latest tome is the
glimmer of a hopeful message – that there is no physical reason
why we must accept the inevitable demise of life on the
planet.[/quote]
HTML https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/19/the-climate-crisis-is-an-accelerating-calamity-of-our-own-making-so-what-would-it-take-to-turn-things-around
From the comments:
[quote]It may take more than that. NASA's former lead climate
scientist James Hansen got himself arrested several times
protesting government inaction on climate change.
A number of years ago, speaking to Americans, he said we should
all be down at the White House knocking on the door about
this.[/quote]
[quote]
A global vegan ecologist dictatorship would turn things round.
Viewed dispassionately from outer space it makes perfect sense
but it would be like expecting a swarm of locusts to go easy on
the crops.[/quote]
Finally! A solution! Now we just need to convince them to stop
being a cynical defeatist and bring this into a reality.
Meanwhile, Rwanda is another 'dictatorship' leading the way:
[quote]In 2008, the small East African nation of 12 million
people instituted a national ban on non-biodegradable plastic
bags. The polyethylene bags, which shoppers typically only use
once before throwing out, are known to amass in landfills,
litter streets, obstruct sewer systems and hurt marine life.
Rwanda was still recovering from the economic and emotional
destruction of genocide in the mid-1990s. As part of a revival
plan, leaders decided to emphasize environmental protection,
resulting in a series of reforms that included the bag measure.
It wasn’t the first national bag ban -- Bangladesh passed one in
2002 -- but Rwanda’s law has serious teeth. It prohibits the
manufacture, use, importation and sale of the bags. Owners of
businesses that violate the ban face up to a year in prison, and
anyone caught carrying a bag faces stiff fines. Businesses that
flout the rules are raided; travelers who enter Rwanda’s borders
are subject to searches. Strict enforcement has led to some
revolt among small business owners and the growth of a black
market trade in plastic bags. But there’s been less ire from bag
manufacturers, who were encouraged through tax incentives and
recycling contracts to convert their businesses.
Rwanda’s audacious ban, however harsh it may be, seems to have
been effective. Numerous international environmental agencies
have praised the prohibition for helping clean up the streets of
the country, especially the capital city of Kigali.[/quote]
HTML https://www.governing.com/archive/gov-rwanda-plastic-bag-ban.html
So, what are Western nations' excuses for not doing the same? Oh
yeah, democracy.
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Re: Western Democracy
By: Zea_mays Date: September 9, 2021, 3:53 pm
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Less than 50% of Millennials are "satisfied" with democracy.
Will Gen Z take the climate crisis seriously enough to end it?
If their goal is to tackle the climate crisis, then the means
will have to be able to accomplish that goal--which necessitates
getting rid of democracy.
[quote]‘No point in anything else’: Gen Z members flock to
climate careers
Colleges offer support as young people aim to devote their lives
to battling the crisis[/quote]
HTML https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/06/gen-z-climate-change-careers-jobs
Other good news:
[quote]Young people are less satisfied with democracy and more
disillusioned than at any other time in the past century,
especially in Europe, North America, Africa and Australia, a
study by the University of Cambridge has found.[/quote]
HTML https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/millennials-are-losing-faith-in-democracy-study-suggests/ar-BB1acXI7
Scroll down to figure 4! Averaged across the globe, all age
brackets of the Millennial generation are more dissatisfied with
democracy than satisfied.
[quote]A constant country sample is used in each age bracket.
Each generational cohort is less satisfied with democracy than
the prior cohort was at the same age in life. Contrary to the
view that generational differences are merely a “life-cycle
effect” – with people becoming less critical of democracy as
they grow older – in fact, younger cohorts have become more
dissatisfied as they have aged[/quote]
HTML https://www.cam.ac.uk/system/files/youth_and_satisfaction_with_democracy.pdf
Even more good news (note this article is from an entire year
before the 2016 election, so Trump's corruption wouldn't have
impacted the polling):
[quote]In our research we have found that citizens give less and
less importance to living in a democracy. They have increasingly
negative views about key democratic institutions. Most
worryingly of all, they are more and more open to illiberal
alternatives. Americans aren’t just souring on particular
institutions or particular politicians. To a surprising degree,
they have begun to sour on liberal democracy itself.
[...]
Political scientists have long known that "government
legitimacy," or the popularity of particular administrations, is
going down. But many of them have argued that "regime
legitimacy," or citizens’ attachment to democracy as a political
system, is as strong as ever. Our research shows that this is
just not true: Attachment to democracy has fallen over time, and
from one generation to the next.[/quote]
HTML https://www.vox.com/polyarchy/2015/12/18/9360663/is-democracy-in-trouble
HTML https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/xU8zM5ZOu4I68RI5S-eegdrxLzA=/0x0:720x857/1120x0/filters:focal(0x0:720x857):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4082844/Figure_3_.0.png
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Pre-Trump(!) less than 10% of Americans had any faith in their
government. Why haven't we gotten rid of democracy yet?
HTML https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/y56xCe-LiHLuEKhmN-hMOEehMmc=/0x0:720x868/1120x0/filters:focal(0x0:720x868):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/5658601/Figure_1___2_.0.png
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Re: Western Democracy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 9, 2021, 10:54 pm
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"all age brackets of the Millennial generation are more
dissatisfied with democracy than satisfied."
I fear this count includes rightists who are dissatisfied with
democracy only because they are dissatisfied with the effects of
Demographic Blueshift:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/demographic-blueshift/
They may be the ones most supportive of:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/voter-suppression/
A better estimate of dissatisfaction with democracy for the
correct (ie. leftist) reasons might be found by looking at only
anti-democrats within the environmentalist movement, for
example.
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Re: Western Democracy
By: guest55 Date: September 11, 2021, 2:19 pm
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WARNING!: Be prepared to mentally ingest lunacy if you listen to
this clip:
Believe Extremist Christian Nationalist When They Tell You Who
They Are!!!
[quote]Jesse plays voicemails from two different callers about
the radical nutter-butter Christian pastors who railed against
democratic values – one of them literally calling democracy a
DISEASE![/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YOcMs30mcg
Not saying that these "Christian Nationalists" Jesse refers to
in the above clip are actually "Christians" or "Nationalists",
but Jesse obviously lacks any clarity on this subject. (No
surprise there!) I would say any person who renounces democracy
is closer to Jesus than those who promote it! DUH!!!
Who was it that VOTED to have Jesus crucified FFS!?!?!?
[quote]Barabbas, in the New Testament, a prisoner mentioned in
all four Gospels who was chosen by the crowd, over Jesus Christ,
to be released by Pontius Pilate in a customary pardon before
the feast of Passover.[/quote]
HTML https://www.britannica.com/topic/Barabbas-biblical-figure
The "majority" clearly hated Jesus too! How could you hate
someone like Jesus, Jesse!?
Why did the crowds shout, “Crucify Him!” when Pilate wanted to
release Jesus?
[quote]When the Sanhedrin brought Jesus before the Roman
governor, Pontius Pilate, Pilate could not find any fault in
Jesus, and he said so three times (Luke 23:4, 14–15, 22). Late
in the trial, Pilate sought a way to free Jesus (John 19:12). It
was a Passover festival custom that the governor release a
prisoner to the people, so, in a ploy to appease the crowd of
Jewish leaders who had gathered and to secure Jesus’ release,
Pilate allowed them to choose between a convicted criminal named
Barabbas and Jesus. Instead of choosing Jesus, as Pilate had
hoped, the crowd chose Barabbas for release. Shocked that they
would free a hardened criminal, Pilate asked, “What shall I do,
then, with the one you call the king of the Jews?” (Mark 15:12).
The crowd cried out, “Crucify him!” (verse 13).[/quote]
HTML https://www.gotquestions.org/Crucify-Him.html
The majority in Jesus' time was clearly EVIL and democracy is a
"tyranny of the MAJORITY" FFS!!!
Even after the Trump presidency Jesse Dollemore still cannot
bring himself to accept reality!!!
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Gavin Newsom's Recall Victory Was NOT A Repudiation Of Trump
By: guest55 Date: September 16, 2021, 12:36 pm
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Gavin Newsom's Recall Victory Was NOT A Repudiation Of Trump
[quote]Liberal writers were quick to claim that Gavin Newsom's
defeat of Larry Elder in California was somehow a repudiation of
Donald Trump, but the reality is actually far less thrilling.
Newsom survived a recall in a state where there are almost twice
as many registered Democrats as there are Republicans, and there
was no clear evidence of actual corruption to pin on Newsom. It
isn't that hard, and it really isn't worth pontificating on for
too long, as Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfGzs-ofwM4
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Re: Western Democracy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 17, 2021, 2:46 am
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While watching this video:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l_V5cUva4M
it suddenly occurred to me that if anti-homophobia is "sexual
anarchy", then homophobia is in fact sexual democracy. The
majority of people are "heterosexual" (as a consequence of
natural selection), and democracy means that the minority must
accept the majority preference as more valid, hence homophobia.
And indeed Western civilization is to blame for spreading both
democracy and homophobia worldwide during the colonial era, as
we have previously covered:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/homophobia-is-not-american/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg7373/#msg7373
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg7480/#msg7480
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