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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 4, 2024, 3:53 pm
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Still supporting democracy, lefitsts?
HTML https://rmx.news/article/majority-of-germans-reject-muslim-immigration-express-fear-of-becoming-a-minority-in-germany/
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> The most recent survey shows an absolute majority of 52
percent rather agree with the statement that “Germany should
generally no longer accept refugees from Islamic countries”.
Only 34 percent say “disagree” or “tend to disagree” with this
statement.
> ...
> The poll further shows that 54 percent of respondents said
they were “afraid that Germans will become a minority in
Germany.” On the other hand, 37 percent said they were not
concerned.
> ...
> Two-thirds of Germans (65 percent) agree with the statement
that there is “racism against Whites” in Germany, while only a
small minority of 22 percent think this is not true.
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 15, 2024, 5:00 pm
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Still supporting democracy, leftists?
HTML https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-05-07/seven-out-of-10-europeans-believe-their-country-takes-in-too-many-immigrants.html
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> Europeans view immigration with increasing suspicion. Seven
out of 10 Europeans believe that their country takes in too many
migrants, according to a survey carried out by BVA Xsight for
ARTE Europe Weekly, a project led by the French-German TV
channel ARTE GEIE and which EL PAÍS has participated in, as part
of the countdown to the European elections in June.
>
> The survey shows that 85% of respondents feel the European
Union needs to take more action to combat irregular migration.
And only 39% believe that Europe needs immigration today.
>
> The countries where most people consider immigration a problem
are Bulgaria (74% of respondents), the Czech Republic (73%),
Hungary and Cyprus (68% in both cases).
> ...
> Greece is the country where the most people (90%) believe
their country takes in too many migrants.
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See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/
Continuing:
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> Paradoxically, in Italy, the European country where the
largest number of immigrants entered irregularly last year
(157,652), only 44% of respondents viewed it as a problem and
only 14% saw it as the main problem.
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See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/padania-vs-saturnia/
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 25, 2024, 12:38 am
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Still supporting democracy, leftists?
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13438653/survey-poll-voters-lockups-deportation-migrant-immigration.html
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> Fears about America's immigration crisis have been laid bare
by a poll that shows broad support for roundups and mass
deportations of non-legal migrants.
>
> Fully 56 percent of voters said most or all immigrants in the
US illegally should be rounded up and deported, a Reuters/Ipsos
poll found.
> ...
> Voters' views on immigration align more with his predecessor,
Donald Trump, who vows to crack down on migrants if he beats
Biden in the 2024 presidential contest.
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 10, 2024, 5:53 pm
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Still supportng democracy, leftists?
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CV4FE56vnA
Has any lesson been learned yet? Anyone who still supports
democracy cannot seriously claim to care about refugees.
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: July 7, 2024, 8:14 pm
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Democratic Institutions prevent Enforcement of Integration
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> During the 1930s, African Americans ended their long
allegiance to the Republican Party which dated back to the days
of Abraham Lincoln—and became a reliable Democratic voting bloc.
Black voters in northern cities provided crucial support to FDR
in the 1940 and 1944 presidential elections.
>
> Yet despite this overwhelming support, FDR did not become a
champion of civil rights. Roosevelt recognized the grievances
of African Americans, but believed his New Deal reforms would be
jeopardized if he took advanced positions on race. There was
little active support for civil rights reform among Northern
whites and white Southerners were deeply opposed. FDR’s ability
to get legislation through Congress depended upon the support of
long-serving southern Democrats who chaired many key committees.
Later, as World War II approached, he would need these same
Southern committee chairmen to overcome isolationists in
Congress who opposed increased defense spending and aid to
Britain.
>
> Increasingly, FDR found himself caught between two important
Democratic constituencies with conflicting agendas. His dilemma
came into bold relief in 1940, when African American labor
leader A. Philip Randolph threatened to lead a massive March on
Washington to protest racial discrimination in defense
industries. Eleanor Roosevelt supported Randolph and helped
arrange an Oval Office meeting with FDR. At that meeting, FDR
tried to persuade Randolph to abandon his threat. But when he
stood firm, the President agreed to issue an executive order
creating the Fair Employment Practices Commission (FEPC). The
FEPC was empowered to investigate and overturn race
discrimination in industries engaged in military production.
>
> Roosevelt never agreed to African American leaders’ demand
that that he end racial discrimination in America’s armed
forces. But World War II provided FDR with opportunities to take
action against discrimination without having to go to Congress
and to create an environment in which minorities could advance
in the military. In 1940, Benjamin O. Davis, Sr. became the
army’s first black brigadier general. During the war, blacks
were admitted to the Marine Corps for the first time and the
Army Air Corps ended its ban on black pilots. With strong public
support from First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt, nearly one thousand
black pilots were trained at Alabama’s Tuskegee Institute. Many
of the “Tuskegee Airmen” served in North Africa and Europe in
the all-black 99th Pursuit Squadron
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Source :
Roosevelt on Race
HTML http://www.fdrlibraryvirtualtour.org/graphics/05-20/5-20-NewDeal_confront_pdf.pdf
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: Capital
Date: August 3, 2024, 1:29 am
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Minority Rule Is Threatening American Democracy Like Never
Before
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> Everyone seems to be talking about saving democracy this year.
“American democracy, that’s what the 2024 election is all
about,” Joe Biden has emphasized, painting the threat of Donald
Trump’s return to power as the central issue in the 2024
campaign. “We have to prove that our model isn’t a relic of
history.”
>
> But the crisis facing American democracy is much older and
deeper than Trump and it is, indeed, a relic of a very different
time in US history.
>
> In a new video companion for Mother Jones, based on my
forthcoming book Minority Rule: The Right-Wing Attack on the
Will of the People—and the Fight to Resist It, digital producer
Sam Van Pykeren explores how the US political system was created
to restrain democracy, not protect it. The founders essentially
placed a ticking time bomb at the heart of our political
system—and this could be the year it explodes.
>
> As Ari explains in his book, it all dates back to the birth of
American democracy, when the Founding Fathers created political
institutions within a system that concentrated power in the
hands of an elite, propertied, white male minority. More than
200 years later, the series of compromises the founders made
have increasingly vested the majority of political power in the
hands of a minority of the population—a reactionary conservative
white minority that is seeking to entrench and hold onto power
through a wide variety of anti-democratic means.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKQpp31dPTc
Comment:
Never forget it was majority rule that gave the wrong minority
ultimate rule. Majority rule sometimes gets it right, but more
often than not majority rule gets it completely wrong,
especially from an absolute moralist and absolute truth
perspective.
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: August 22, 2024, 10:28 am
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The truth about Democracy
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> Democracy, moreover, is European and heavily influenced by the
Enlightenment and Christianity (an organization of celibate
priests could not have hereditary offices, so voting was
essential to church government). The leftist idea that the whole
world should embrace democracy is pitiably ethnocentric.
>
> Nor, as is commonly argued, is Western democracy a recently
evolved and therefore particularly advanced form of government.
The oldest parliament in the West, the Icelandic Althing, was
established in 930, and there were clearly democratic tendencies
in the ancient Italian republics, the Hanseatic municipalities,
and the charters of the Swiss cantons.
>
> Nor is it accurate to find stark differences between democracy
and despotism. Unlike the Orientals, Indo-Europeans have seen
very little despotism. In the Illiad, in ancient Rome, in Vedic
India, and among the Hittites, there were popular assemblies
that decided civil and military matters. In the West, kings were
elected, and monarchy did not become generally hereditary until
the 12th century. Even then, kings shared power with elected
parliaments. In the West, virtually every system has therefore
been a mix of collective and solitary rule. Some would even call
the Athenian system not so much a democracy as an extended form
of aristocracy.
>
> ...
>
> After this blistering critique, what is left of democracy for
Mr. de Benoist to support? To answer that question he takes us
back to ancient Greece. He notes that in Athens, each citizen
had an equal voice in the ekklesia or assembly, but emphasizes
that “the crucial notion here is not equality but citizenship.”
Slaves had no voice, not because they were slaves but because
they were not citizens, and almost without exception, the only
way to become a citizen was to be born of an Athenian mother and
father.
>
> As Aristotle pointed out, Athens came first and citizens were
born into it. Mr. de Benoist notes that “this view stands in
contrast to the concept of modern liberalism, which assumes that
the individual precedes society and that man, qua individual, is
at once something more than just a citizen.”
> Thus, the main difference between ancient Greek democracy and
our own is not what are always told: that theirs was direct
democracy whereas ours takes place through elected
representatives. Instead, we have completely different
conceptions of society:
>
> Ancient democracy defined citizenship by one’s origin, and
gave citizens the opportunity to participate in the life of the
city. Modern democracy organizes atomized individuals into
citizens, primarily viewing them through the lens of abstract
egalitarianism. . . . The meaning of the words “city,” “people,”
“nation” and “liberty” radically changes from one model to
another.
>
> Mr. de Benoist continues:
>
> The effective functioning of Greek democracy, as well as of
[ancient] Icelandic democracy, was first and foremost the result
of cultural cohesion and a clear sense of belonging. The closer
the members of a community are to one another, the more likely
they are to have common sentiments, identical values, and the
same way of viewing the world and social ties, and the easier it
is for them to make collective decisions concerning the common
good without the need for any form of mediation. Modern
societies . . . have ceased to be places of collectively lived
meaning.
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Source :
Jared Taylor, American Renaissance, March 8, 2013
HTML https://www.amren.com/news/2023/07/the-problem-of-democracy/
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: rp
Date: September 2, 2024, 6:47 am
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Also known as the Reich effect.
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 2, 2024, 5:38 pm
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High-T men do not ask whether something is true. They ask
whether they can enforce a claim that it is true:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/red-coup/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/trump-launches-2024-presidential-campaign/
They are the source of the "brute force manufactured consensus"
mentioned in your screencap.
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 6, 2024, 5:18 am
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This time we can't even blame the Electoral College:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election
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> Nominee
> ...
> Popular vote
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