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       Re: Western Democracy
   DIR By: rp
       Date: September 4, 2022, 6:32 pm
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       "he is surprisingly unworried about the criminals who were
       transported to the colonies in the early days."
       It's ok for criminals to be "white".
       #Post#: 15544--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Western Democracy
   DIR By: guest78
       Date: September 9, 2022, 12:04 pm
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       But who would know enough about you to want to elect you to a
       political office if you're not famous? Is fame not a
       prerequisite for democracy?
       Aiming for a life of success and fame is a 'hollow ambition' |
       Gabriel Byrne
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       > "The pursuit of fame in and of itself is a hollow ambition,
       and success doesn’t hang around too long."
       >
       > Striving for the glamorous life of fame and Hollywood is a
       ‘hollow’ ambition, actor Gabriel Byrne says while reflecting on
       his career #TimesRadio.
       --- End Quote ---
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuD_Bky_0U0
       #Post#: 15654--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Western Democracy
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: September 14, 2022, 9:44 pm
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       Still supporting democracy, leftists?
  HTML https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/09/14/swedens-pm-concedes-election-to-right-wing-bloc-and-will-resign-tomorrow
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       > The election marks a watershed in Swedish politics with the
       anti-immigration Sweden Democrats, shunned by all the major
       parties when they first entered parliament in 2010, on the
       threshold of gaining influence over government policy.
       --- End Quote ---
       If you still don't see that this type of result is what
       democracy was designed to deliver, let's come back after the
       elections in Italy and see if you get it by then.
       #Post#: 15655--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Western Democracy
   DIR By: antihellenistic
       Date: September 14, 2022, 11:06 pm
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       The false-leftist today want democracy and liberalism because it
       prevent more intolerant people whose their action resulting more
       wars, unrest, and bloodsheds. So democracy will control the
       people from doing that thing. What about that?
       Today's liberalism from 2000s until today resulting less-wars
       than the Cold War bipolar politics era for example
       #Post#: 15656--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Western Democracy
   DIR By: antihellenistic
       Date: September 14, 2022, 11:12 pm
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       > Note furthermore what kind of bloodlines Grant preferred to
       populate the demos to produce the kind of democracy he wants:
       >
       > [quote]In his view, wealth and cultivation are always signs of
       better stock.
       > ...
       > he is surprisingly unworried about the criminals who were
       transported to the colonies in the early days.
       > ...
       > He also likes the rebellious, freebooting quality of early
       settlers.
       > ...
       > he admires their pioneering, Indian-fighting spirit. As yet
       more rebels and dissenters arrived, they headed further west,
       opening the country.
       --- End Quote ---
       [/quote]
       If Madison Grant promoting such people's bloodlines. Then why
       the "whites" in America whose bloodlines are like that
       considered as "civilized"? Even the today's world consider the
       Europe and America are civilized and less-corrupt nations.
       And liberalism in Europe and America resulting less-corrupt
       nations on it. What about that?
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       Re: Western Democracy
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: September 14, 2022, 11:53 pm
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       "why the "whites" in America whose bloodlines are like that
       considered as "civilized"?"
       In the Western perspective, "civilized' means Homo Hubris:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/
       or as our enemy Duchesne likes to say, Faustian:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/msg14444/#msg14444
       Grant promotes Homo-Hubris/Faustian-compatible bloodlines.
       We are here to change the definition of "civilized" to mean
       Ahimsa-adherent. Of course a civilized person by our definition
       will not be popular, because most people initiate violence but
       do not want to face retaliatory violence. Therefore democracy is
       opposed to our definition of civilization.
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       Re: Western Democracy
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: September 25, 2022, 6:21 pm
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  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/meloni-casts-ballot-exit-polls-214844622.html
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       > STORY: A right-wing alliance led by Giorgia Meloni's Brothers
       of Italy party looks set to win a clear majority in the next
       parliament, exit polls said on Sunday (September 25) after
       voting ended in an Italian national election.
       >
       > An exit poll for Italy's SKY said the bloc of conservative
       parties, that also includes Matteo Salvini's League and Silvio
       Berlusconi's Forza Italia party, won over 40%, enough to
       guarantee control of both houses of parliament.
       --- End Quote ---
       From the comments:
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       > If one believes in true democracy, people of Italy have the
       right to choose whomever they like, as their leader,
       notwithstanding the opinion of the others.
       --- End Quote ---
       Exactly. This is why no leftist should believe in democracy.
       #Post#: 16020--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shimabara Rebellion: The Christian Revolt That Isolated
       Medieval Japan 
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: October 9, 2022, 11:12 pm
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       Meanwhile, it was OK for shipwreck survivors to be "white":
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normanton_incident
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       > The Normanton incident
       (ノルマントン号事件,
       Norumanton-gō jiken) was a set of reactions and events
       surrounding the sinking of a British merchant vessel named
       Normanton off the coast of what is now Japan's Wakayama
       Prefecture on October 24, 1886. When the Normanton ran aground,
       the ship's officers appear to have seized the lifeboats for the
       Europeans alone. Among the Asians aboard (Indian and Chinese
       crew, and the Japanese passengers) there were no survivors.
       Uproar in Japan obliged the British Consular Court to revisit
       its initial exoneration of the captain and to accept there had
       been criminal misconduct. But no compensation was offered. In
       Japan, the incident was widely interpreted as a further
       illustration of the humiliations visited upon the country since
       her forced opening to the West in the 1850s, and it led to new
       and persistent calls for the revision of the "unequal treaties".
       > ...
       > On the evening of October 24, 1886, the 240-ton British cargo
       ship Normanton, registered to the Madamson & Bell Steamship
       Company, left Yokohama Harbor laden with both goods and 25
       Japanese passengers for the port of Kobe. En route she was
       caught in heavy wind and rains all the way from Yokkaichi in Mie
       Prefecture to the Cape of Kashinozaki in Wakayama Prefecture,
       where the vessel was wrecked. She ran aground on an offshore
       reef and was lost.[2] The ship's captain John William Drake and
       all of his European crew (consisting of Britons and Germans)
       escaped the sinking ship in lifeboats,  leaving the remaining
       crewmen (twelve Indians and Chinese) and the 25 Japanese
       passengers aboard to escape by themselves.[3] Drake and his
       European crewmen were picked up by coastal fishermen who took
       them in.[2]
       --- End Quote ---
       As usual, the "non-whites" (being Eurocentrists) helped the
       "whites", while the "whites" (being ethnotribalists) left the
       "non-whites" to drown.
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       > On October 28, Inoue Kaoru, Minister for Foreign Affairs for
       Prime Minister Itō Hirobumi's first cabinet, received a
       telegram from Matsumoto Kanae, Governor of Wakayama Prefecture,
       briefly outlining the events surrounding the shipwreck. He was
       alarmed by the fact that all the Japanese passengers were lost,
       and ordered an investigation of the situation on the spot.[2]
       However, Japanese officials were hindered in their efforts to
       verify the facts of the incident by the legal barriers imposed
       by the unequal treaties.
       > ...
       > Public opinion in Japan was outraged over what was perceived
       to be a miscarriage of justice.[5][6] An example of public
       sentiment at the time was found in the Tokyo Nichi Nichi Shimbun
       (forerunner of the Mainichi Shimbun, founded in 1872.) The paper
       reported in an outrage that, "If the Captain and the more than
       20 seamen under him were able to be rescued, it makes sense that
       at least one or two Japanese passengers would have been saved
       along with them. However, the ugly truth is all of them were
       lost." In another article, they claimed that, "If the passengers
       had been Westerners, they would have been rescued immediately.
       These men were left to die because they were Japanese".[7]
       --- End Quote ---
       The Japanese were Westernizing heavily by then. It didn't
       matter. They were still "non-white". Here is a picture of Inoue:
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/KaoruM13.jpg/392px-KaoruM13.jpg
       His Western clothes and hairstyle didn't help his investigation!
       --- Quote ---
       > The North China Herald in Shanghai called the decision of the
       Board of Enquiry a "farce", a "miscarriage of justice" and a
       "complete whitewash".[8]
       --- End Quote ---
       "White" being the operative term.
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       > Foreign Minister Inoue had been a staunch supporter of the
       country's Europeanization by hosting elaborate balls at the
       Rokumeikan
       --- End Quote ---
       Did it help him in the end?
       #Post#: 16021--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Western Democracy
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: October 10, 2022, 6:12 pm
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       Still supporting democracy, leftists?
  HTML https://rmx.news/article/80-of-french-people-believe-anti-white-racism-exists/
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       > 80% of French people believe anti-White racism exists
       > ...
       > Only 19 percent of French people said “no” to the question,
       while 1 percent could not decide.
       > ...
       > The CSA survey also broke down answers based on gender, and
       there was no clear difference between male and females in this
       regard, with 82 percent of men saying anti-White racism exists
       and 79 percent of females. The “yes” vote also won in nearly all
       age groups; however, those between 50 and 64 were most likely to
       say “yes” to the question (90 percent). The only age group where
       “yes” did not win was 18 to 24, where 51 percent said anti-White
       racism did not exist.
       >
       > The polling did show political differences between
       respondents, with 100 percent of voters of the Reconquest party
       saying anti-White racism existed in France, while for the
       National Rally, it was 92 percent, and in the Republicans party,
       it was 89 percent.
       >
       > Interestingly, supporters of the Renassance party of French
       President Emmanuel Macron, known for his support of liberal
       immigration policies, also showed that 83 percent believe
       anti-White racism exists, while in the left-wing La France
       Insoumise, only 39 percent agreed with this assertion.
       --- End Quote ---
       For reference:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/old-content/msg6514/#msg6514
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       Re: Western Democracy
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: October 13, 2022, 4:07 pm
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       Leftists are understanding that democracy is the problem, but
       only subconsciously:
  HTML https://rmx.news/germany/the-left-calls-for-a-ban-on-germanys-afd-party-just-as-the-party-surges-in-popularity/
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       > Members of the Social Democrats (SPD) and the Left party (Die
       Linke) are calling for a ban on the conservative Alternative for
       Germany (AfD) party just as it surges in the polls, raising
       fears that Germany, which prides itself on being democratic,
       will attempt to completely ban one of the largest parties in the
       country.
       > ...
       > The powerful Office for the Protection of the Constitution
       domestic intelligence agency has deemed AfD a “suspected threat”
       to democracy
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       No, AfD is a consequence of democracy. If you want the AfD
       banned, you are anti-democracy, which is what you should proudly
       be. Just like Hitler was.
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       > The idea that banning a party to save democracy is widespread
       in Germany’s left-wing circles
       --- End Quote ---
       This is why we call them the False Left:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/western-democracy/msg3362/#msg3362
       Continuing:
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       > however, AfD has argued that nobody in the party has ever
       advocated anti-democratic principles. In fact, there is evidence
       the party wants to strengthen it by introducing Swiss-style
       citizen referendums, which would allow citizens to vote on
       specific issues
       --- End Quote ---
       Now think carefully. Why would AfD do this? Answer: because AfD
       is confident that results will line up with the policies it
       wants. Is AfD mistaken? Probably not!
       Why do you think Hitler hated Switzerland?
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