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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: Prite
Date: December 13, 2020, 6:11 am
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I think you should see how "democracy" and "populism" have
similar hanzi in Chinese.
Democracy is translated to be
民主.
Populism is translated to be
民粹主义.
Japanese and Korean just borrow populism from English.
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 13, 2021, 11:09 pm
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False Leftists never stopped being Westerners. They
fundamentally subscribe to the narrative that the invention and
spread of democracy represents historical progress, thus (as
avowed progressives themselves) they have no choice but to
support democracy. Herein is also the inherent
self-contradiction within False Leftist minds. They may
outwardly reject the claim of Western superiority, yet by being
pro-democracy (among other attitudes) inwardly affirm their
actual belief in Western superiority, given that Western
civilization was the only civilization in all of world history
with a significant democratic (or, more broadly,
anti-monarchist) tradition. But instead of confronting this
self-contradiction with intellectual honesty, False Leftists
attempt to dig up (at best obscure and at worst illusory)
historical blips - never enough to be considered a tradition -
of vaguely electoral activity in non-Western civilizations in
order to bolster a thoroughly contrived claim (which neither
rightists nor True Leftists believe) that "all civilizations
were progressing towards democracy all along", instead of
admitting that the prevalence of democracy worldwide today is
(as rightists and True Leftists academically agree on) almost
entirely an effect of Westernization from the colonial era
onwards, and would never have occurred absent the colonial era.
Because if they were to admit this, they - as fans of democracy
- would have to be grateful to colonialism (ie. become
rightists!).
So here it what is comes down to:
A) "Western civilization is not superior to all other
civilizations."
B) "Democracy is superior to autocracy."
Challenge for False Leftists: PICK ONE. Because if you believe
B), you logically cannot believe A).
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 13, 2021, 11:54 pm
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> A) "Western civilization is not superior to all other
civilizations."
> B) "Democracy is superior to autocracy."
>
> Challenge for False Leftists: PICK ONE. Because if you believe
B), you logically cannot believe A).
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I was also considering creating a similar meme for
False-Leftists:
Which would you prefer?:
A) A 10 year Malcolm X dictatorship, at the end of which Malcolm
chooses his own successor
B) Another 4 year Trump presidency at the end of which you vote
against Trumpists for the next successor
Or:
A) A 10 year Abraham Lincoln dictatorship
B) 4 years of Trump as president
Doesn't quite have the effect of your argument and choice logic
yet though, still thinking about it....
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: Killthebank
Date: January 19, 2021, 11:59 pm
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Not sure if this belongs in this thread but:
HTML https://www.polygon.com/2016/3/15/11231850/ubisoft-editorial-user-research-scientists-fun
HTML https://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/134870/focus_groups_testing_and_.php
These articles are about using focus groups to create video
games. This is akin to developing a game democratically instead
of the project manager and his team of experts in their
respective field (programming, artwork, level design, etc.) This
is the reason the quality of video games has dropped; they are
boring and empty. That and the fact that the publishers want to
maximize profit so they try to please everyone and end up
satisfying no one.
I like how the second article says Nintendo snubbed their focus
groups. They've almost always know what they're doing.
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 20, 2021, 1:44 am
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Good analogy!
Just as I keep telling people who dislike an autocratic country
to simply emigrate instead of trying to change it into a
democratic country, the same advice applies to gamers: if you
dislike a particular game, just don't buy it, and buy a
different one instead! The artistic duty of game developers is
to stay true to their original vision for the game, irrespective
of whether the game is a commercial success or not.
"I like how the second article says Nintendo snubbed their focus
groups. They've almost always know what they're doing."
At least until the N64 and subsequent 3D consoles.....
Here we have Nintendo being influenced not by popular opinion,
but by (Western) futurists who claimed that games must go 3D in
order to keep pace (why, FFS??) with the computational power to
handle 3D. In short, Nintendo avoided the democracy trap but
fell into the progressivism trap.
So listening to expert opinion over majority opinion is just the
first step; next comes the challenge of deciding which experts
to listen to.....
(By the way, if you want to talk about 2D games, please feel
welcome to do so here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/
)
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 21, 2021, 1:40 am
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--- Quote from: rp link ---
>
> Just listened to this gem again:
> John Alan Martinson Jr - Monarchism The Last Bastille Podcast:
>
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhoYbdVMg9M
>
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> Retrobensan
> 5 hours ago (edited)
> The way things have transpired over the years and lately in
America i'll pretty much take a monarchy over a degenerate
republic any day.
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> Who was called King of Kings?
> Jesus Christ
> "King of Kings"
(βασιλεὺς
τῶν
βασιλευόντων)
is used in reference to Jesus Christ
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:)
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>
> Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are
like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful
outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all
uncleanness. [28] Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous
unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: guest5
Date: February 8, 2021, 8:13 pm
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Only About 3.5 Percent of Americans Care About Democracy
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> A recent study reveals that vanishingly few voters will defect
from a candidate who acts undemocratically.
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You wouldn't know it listening to U.S. media though would you?
Listening to Western media you could easily arrive at the
conclusion that everyone agrees that democracy is the best thing
that has ever happened to humankind, right?
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>
> Imagine a candidate you like. This politician has everything:
the right positions on taxes, abortion, foreign policy,
immigration; sound judgment; enough personal probity to be
trusted with your wallet, house keys, or email password. Now
imagine that that candidate does or says something
antidemocratic. For no particular reason, she shuts down polling
stations. Or at a rally, she tells supporters that a particular
journalist—standing over there, in the Men’s Wearhouse sport
coat—is asking too many questions and might deserve to get
rabbit-punched on the way to his car. Care to change your vote?
>
> This purely theoretical scenario, which of course bears no
relationship to anything that has happened or is happening in
American politics, is the subject of an article in the American
Political Science Review by Matthew H. Graham and Milan W.
Svolik of Yale University. How much do voters really care about
democracy? Nearly all Americans say democracy matters. But how
many will actually punish their preferred candidate and withhold
a vote when that candidate does something undemocratic?
>
> Graham and Svolik’s answer: About 3.5 percent of voters will
defect from a candidate whom they otherwise support, but who
does something destructive of democratic norms. Those 3.5
percent come from the right and the left in equal proportions,
but they tend to be moderates. (Self-described
“independents”—those mysterious, yeti-like creatures who profess
to have no political preference at all—vote slightly more like
extremists.) If you value democracy, hug a moderate.
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> “If you just ask people whether they like democracy, there’s a
social norm that says they have to answer yes,” Svolik told me.
They have been conditioned since grade school to say “democracy
is good, 10 out of 10—and we should also stop global warming and
save the whales and whatever.” He and Graham surveyed 1,691
people and posed instead a version of the hypothetical question
I asked above: You say you like democracy, but will you
sacrifice other things you like on its behalf, by withholding
your vote for a democracy-bashing candidate? “Some will, but the
punishment is small,” Svolik said: those willing to vote for the
opposing candidate often do so only if he is similar to the
candidate they intended to support in the first place. That
means partisanship encourages more antidemocratic action:
Stronger partisans will let the thuggishness slide, if they
would have to sacrifice more than a small portion of their
positions. The greater the number of strong partisan voters and
politicians, the smaller the punishment for violating democratic
norms, and the more likely the norm-breaker is to get elected.
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Read more:
HTML https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/09/few-americans-care-about-democracy/616534/
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: February 10, 2021, 11:11 pm
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[img]
HTML https://i1.wp.com/www.occidentaldissent.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Et3YhDXXMAMLBX8.jpg?w=667[/img]
Ethical improvements are made by ignoring majority opinion, not
by following it.
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: February 16, 2021, 10:26 pm
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Democracy is the enemy of Cancel Culture:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLVbXIYkh5k
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Re: Western Democracy
DIR By: guest5
Date: March 19, 2021, 5:28 pm
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It is not up to the U.S. alone to evaluate its democracy: Yang
Jiechi
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> A high-level strategic dialogue between China and the United
States is underway in Anchorage, Alaska, in the United States.
Yang Jiechi, a member of the Political Bureau of the Communist
Party of China (CPC) Central Committee and director of the
Office of the Foreign Affairs Commission of the CPC Central
Committee, is attending the meeting, saying it is not just up to
the U.S., but also the world to evaluate how the U.S. has done
in advancing its own democracy. #China​ #US​
#dialogue
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETOfymWVShM
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> The French Revolution (French: Révolution française
[ʁevɔlysjɔ̃
fʁɑ̃sɛːz]) refers to the period that
began with the Estates General of 1789 and ended in November
1799 with the formation of the French Consulate. Many of its
ideas are considered fundamental principles of Western liberal
democracy.[1]
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> Origins in the French Revolution
>
> The terms "left" and "right" appeared during the French
Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided
into supporters of the king to the president's right and
supporters of the revolution to his left.[6] One deputy, the
Baron de Gauville, explained: "We began to recognize each other:
those who were loyal to religion and the king took up positions
to the right of the chair so as to avoid the shouts, oaths, and
indecencies that enjoyed free rein in the opposing camp".[7]
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum
The Pan-Gnostic Left, or "True Left" as we like to call it, has
roots in the dawn of civilization itself, which obviously
happened long before the French Revolution....
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