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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 13, 2021, 11:25 pm
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LIVE: How China Won Trump’s Trade War and Got Americans to Foot
the Bill
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> (Jan. 13) U.S. President Donald Trump famously tweeted that
“trade wars are good, and easy to win” in 2018 as he began to
impose tariffs on about $360 billion of imports from China.
Turns out he was wrong on both counts.
>
> Even before the coronavirus infected millions of Americans and
sparked the steepest economic downturn since the Great
Depression, China was withstanding Trump’s tariff salvos,
according to the very metrics he used to justify them. Once
China got the virus under control, demand for medical equipment
and work-from-home gear expanded its trade surplus with the U.S.
despite the levies.
>
> While trade tensions between the world’s two biggest economic
powers didn’t start under Trump, he broadened the fight with the
unprecedented tariffs and sanctions on technology companies. The
tougher approach, according to the scorecard that follows,
didn’t go as he hoped. But he’s leaving his successor Joe Biden
a blueprint of what worked and what didn’t.
>
> “China is too big and too important to the world economy to
think that you can cut it out like a paper doll” said Mary
Lovely, an economics professor at Syracuse University. “The
Trump administration had a wake-up call.”
>
> The U.S. Trade Deficit Grew
> Trump vowed in his 2016 election year to very quickly “start
reversing” the U.S. goods trade deficit with China, ignoring
mainstream economists who downplay the importance of bilateral
deficits. However, the deficit with China increased since then,
hitting $287 billion in the 11 months to November last year,
according to Chinese data.
>
> The deficit did fall year-on-year in 2019, as U.S. companies
switched to imports from countries like Vietnam, but it remained
higher than the $254 billion gap in 2016. That was partly
because Beijing’s imposition of retaliatory tariffs on about
$110 billion in goods reduced its imports of American products,
and these only started recovering in the last few months of
2020.
>
> As part of the phase-one trade deal signed a year ago, Beijing
made an ambitious vow to import $172 billion worth of U.S. goods
in specific categories in 2020, but through the end of November
it had bought just 51% of that goal. The slump in energy prices
amid the pandemic and the problems with Boeing Co.’s planes
played a part in that failure.
>
> The persistent deficit demonstrated how reliant companies are
on China’s vast manufacturing capacity, which was highlighted
again by the pandemic. China was the only country capable of
increasing output on a big enough scale to meet surging demand
for goods such as work-from-home computers and medical
equipment.
>
> President Xi Jinping expressed his confidence in China’s rise
Monday, telling officials that “time and the situation are in
our favor.” The Chinese leader said that he saw “opportunities
in general outweighing challenges,” a marked shift from his
sometimes dire-sounding warnings of recent months.
>
> China’s Export Machine Rolls On
> Trump repeatedly said that China’s accession to the World
Trade Organization in 2001 caused its economy to take off like a
“rocket ship,” a result he viewed as unfair. As it turned out,
Trump’s trade war with China coincided with another expansion in
Chinese exports. After shrinking for two straight years in 2015
and 2016, China’s total shipments grew each year after Trump
took office, including in 2019 when exports to the U.S. fell.
>
> A group of 10 Southeast Asian nations replaced the U.S. as
China’s second-largest trading partner in 2019. The shift to
Asia is likely to continue as Southeast Asian economies are
projected to grow faster than developed countries over the next
decade. Those trade links will be further cemented by the
Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership pact signed late
last year, which will see 15 regional economies gradually drop
some tariffs on each others’ goods.
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Want to make sure your imagined opponents do everything in their
power to fool you in a deal? Have the hubris to write a book
titled: The Art of the Deal ;) ;D
Such an amazing business man!!!
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 14, 2021, 3:08 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGafVj-wrmw
This video looks at the issue from the perspective of Russia's
choices, concluding with the advice that, given Russia's
relationship with China will surely not last, Russia should
leave itself a way to partner with the US in future.
But from our perspective, while agreeing with the predictions of
the video, the US should be getting ready replace Russia as
China's partner, thereby leaving Russia without a partner
outside of Turandom. I have actually been thinking about the
content of the potential partnership that the US could have with
China. Many China analysts agree that, even after China takes
over from the US as the new world leader, it is extremely
unlikely to involve itself in military conflicts outside of its
own region, which could create a dangerous power vaccuum.
Therefore I envision that the US could simply continue in this
role of military interventionism that it has already defined for
itself despite economic decline, so long as China can be
convinced to adopt the view that such a role must be filled by
someone (hence so long as China itself does not want this role,
it should endorse (to the extent of providing economic support
for) the US keeping it). In order for this to happen, the US
must by then have become a fully ideologically American (ie.
de-Westernized) country whose military targets will be primarily
Turandom countries.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 19, 2021, 11:47 pm
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> The U.S. on Tuesday became the first country to declare that
China's actions toward its Uyghur population and other ethnic
minorities in the northwestern Xinjiang region constitute a
'genocide.' It is expected to be the Trump admin's final action
regarding China, culminating four years of marked international
tensions between both countries and creating a new set of
opportunities and challenges for the incoming Biden
administration. Biden similarly referred to China's treatment of
Uyghur populations as 'genocide' on the campaign trail.It's
possible the new Biden admin will pursue additional sanctions on
China as a result of this finding.
> In recent years, an estimated 1-2 million Uyghurs in China's
Xinjiang region have allegedly faced forcible relocation to
internment, or re-education, camps. Many have also allegedly
been subjected to practices like forced sterilization, food &
sleep deprivation, and more. The Chinese government has disputed
these accusations, with one official recently calling claims of
genocide an 'utterly untethered fabrication.'
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Compare:
3 years later, US pressed to declare Rohingya crisis 'genocide,'
hold Myanmar accountable
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> Three years ago, Myanmar's military escalated its persecution
of the Rohingya -- a mostly-Muslim ethnic minority -- with a
sustained, violent campaign of murder, rape and beatings that
cleared hundreds of thousands from their land and burned their
villages to the ground.
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HTML https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/years-us-pressed-declare-rohingya-crisis-genocide-hold/story?id=72522830
Does the U.S. really care about Muslims?
Could you people please stop embarrassing good decent people
with your ridiculous lies, just for once?
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Is China changing its strategy towards decoupling from the world
economy?
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 20, 2021, 12:26 am
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Is China changing its strategy towards decoupling from the world
economy?
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> China's trade balance after exports grew to 535 billion US
dollars in 2020, lifting its surplus to a five year high. That,
despite the coronavirus pandemic and a trade war with the United
States. In December, exports surged 18% on the previous year.
Supply problems elsewhere helped boosted demand for Chinese
goods. China's robust recovery also drove domestic consumption
of foreign products with imports also beating expectations.
>
> A report just released by the European Chamber in China
implies that the Asian powerhouse has long managed its
interdependence with the world economy in a highly strategic and
limited manner. What does this mean for foreign companies
operating there?
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pz7Q8bjyeE
Ultimately, nations being self-sufficient and not interdependent
is the only way to ensure there is not a clash of civilizations
over resources. This should coincide with putting a cap on the
global human population. Anything short of that spells disaster
in the long run. Anyone who cannot accept these facts should be
kept out of foreign policy circles. Only an idiot and a
barbarian would eat and drink themselves out of house and home
and then start stealing from their neighbors:
HTML https://pics.me.me/anyone-who-believes-that-exponential-growth-can-go-on-forever-12221587.png
HTML https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Overpopulation-quote-1.jpg
HTML https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Overpopulation-quote-5.jpg
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/antropocentricism-the-most-dangerous-ideology-in-the-world/
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 20, 2021, 1:09 am
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At least China had a good comeback this time:
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Re: Is China changing its strategy towards decoupling from the
world economy?
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 20, 2021, 1:17 am
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"nations being self-sufficient and not interdependent is the
only way to ensure there is not a clash of civilizations over
resources."
Immediately before the colonial era began, the Western countries
that were to become colonial powers were largely
self-sufficient. Colonialism still happened.
Self-sufficiency does not ensure absence of conflict. It only
makes it harder for the aggressor to pretend to be retaliating.
For example, if X purchases food from Y, X can hide the food it
bought and then claim that Y did not deliver it, hence setting
up an excuse to invade Y in 'retaliation' for 'trying to starve
X'. But if X produces all its own food, X cannot frame Y for
trying to starve itself. That is all.
In other words, there will still be conflict, but merely less
room for dishonesty over what the conflict is about.
A clash of civilizations is still on the table, such as between
those (Westerners, esp. Musk) who think humans must settle outer
space no matter what and those (anti-Westerners) who think
humans must not settle outer space no matter what.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: Prite
Date: January 20, 2021, 1:41 am
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"baby-making machines"
It's like the official "Islam" doctrine in Xinjiang had been
corrupted since before annexation by China.
And the counterpart of Tibet Government-in-Exile
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Turkistan_Government-in-Exile
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 30, 2021, 1:47 am
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China-U.S. way ahead: Confrontation or cooperation?
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> While the new U.S. administration carries out a raft of policy
changes, its position on China remains unclear. It takes two to
tango - as they say - there's hope both countries could help
each other navigate choppy waters. So looking ahead, how could
China-U.S. relations shift under the Biden administration? Would
the new U.S. president take an entirely different posture toward
China? Answers to these questions will not only have critical
consequences for the two countries, but for the broader
international community as well. On that, Tian Wei talked to
Stephen Orlins, the president of the National Committee on
U.S.-China Relations, who has worked on and studied China for
nearly 40 years. #China​ #US
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>
愛國愛港網上宣傳平台[國際]
> 1 week ago (edited)
> Hope China-US relations will improve in the future
> Since a good bilateral relation will surely benefit the two
countries and economic recovery of the whole world
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> Gilles Milaire
> 1 week ago
> America is a toxic country and therefore untrustworthy, Steve
Orlins seems more rational than most Americans. I don't see
that China can do that much when dealing with an irrational
failing state such as America, every time that China puts
it's best foot forward the Americans will step on it and
then ask that China back up, dishonest and irresponsible is the
way the Americans operate.
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> JUST AWESOME
> 1 week ago
> In reality , the US and Endia do not want to see a rising
China .
> Their malicious contemptuous conspiracy towards China would
remain the same .
>
> On the other hand , if Trump and his incapacitated trade war
couldn't stop China's ascension , then nothing will
>
> Come on , you know it's TRUE
>
> Have a nice day
> Sincerely from the AWESOME revolution
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> Mojazzz
> 6 days ago
> China and rest of non Western World : we want cooperation for
peace, stability and poverty alleviation
> US : we want confrontation to keep our elites richer
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 30, 2021, 1:56 am
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> America is a toxic country and therefore untrustworthy
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No, Western civilization is a toxic civilization and therefore
untrustworthy. America can be trusted if it successfully
de-Westernizes.
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> every time that China puts it's best foot forward the
Americans will step on it and then ask that China back up,
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Those are not Americans, but Westerners.
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> China and rest of non Western World : we want cooperation for
peace, stability and poverty alleviation
> US : we want confrontation to keep our elites richer
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Confront the former Western colonial powers instead! That is
something the non-Western world should be glad to cooperate on!
(No justice, no peace!) Better yet, confront Israel!
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/nbc-walks-back-report-biden-163609603.html
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 30, 2021, 9:30 pm
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The Militarization of the South China Sea
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> Tensions between the U.S. and China have been steadily
escalating on a range of issues, but there’s one place where a
clash of superpowers would be most likely to happen: the South
China Sea. Even with a new U.S. president, the disagreements
that led to this moment won’t be easy to resolve. So how did
this body of water become a major flashpoint in U.S.-China
relations?
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