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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: rp
Date: September 17, 2023, 9:37 pm
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--- Quote from: 90sRetroFan link ---
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> [quote]‘I don’t want to contain China,’ Biden says in
Beijing’s backyard
> ...
> And he repeated that phrase — again and again.
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> “I don’t want to contain China,” he said during a news
conference in Hanoi shortly after elevating the U.S.-Vietnam
relationship and palling around with Indian Prime Minister
Narendra Modi. “We’re not trying to hurt China.”
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Contrast with:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/nikki-haley-says-she-views-151214599.html
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> Nikki Haley says she views China ‘as an enemy’ in pointed
rebuke
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Is China paying attention to the difference between Red and Blue
attitudes?
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India should also be given credit for the improvement IMO. PM
Modi, while voicing concerns about the border dispute, has not
acquiesced to the demands of some Westerners in the U.S. who
want him to "take on" China. But he has also maintained good
relations with Biden. This signals to the U.S. that they cannot
rely on India as an anti-China "partner", and hence must rely on
themselves alone to take on China. But they recognize this is
unfeasible so they have come around to admitting that they do
not want to take on China after all.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 19, 2023, 4:23 pm
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I have repeatedly explained that good US-China relations depend
on identifying common historical enemies of both countries. I
have also repeatedly stated who those enemies are:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg14900/?topicseen#msg14900
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> This became an especially important concern for the People's
Republic of China after the Sino-Soviet border conflict of 1969.
The PRC was diplomatically isolated and the leadership came to
believe that improved relations with the United States would be
a useful counterbalance to the Soviet threat.
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> Both China and the United States backed combatants in Africa
against Soviet and Cuban-supported movements.
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> US-China military cooperation began in 1979; American arms
sales to China were initiated, and in 1981 it was revealed that
a joint US-China listening post had been operated in Xinjiang,
near the Soviet border.
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HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg11575/?topicseen#msg11575
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> "Fifty years ago, the USSR was a common threat that brought us
together.
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or even:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg2676/?topicseen#msg2676
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> The correct approach, of course, is for the US to take this
opportunity to openly side with China against Australia. If the
US were willing to do this, I guarantee it could win over China
to a new vision of cooperation.
>
> But will Biden do this? Of course not. Biden is still stuck in
the False Left mentality that the US is less close to China, a
fellow former victim of colonization by two of the same colonial
powers:
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> 1)
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>
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_colonization_of_the_Americas
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Hong_Kong
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Weihaiwei
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concessions_in_Tianjin#British_concession_(1860%E2%80%931943)
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiujiang#History
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhenjiang#History
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> etc.
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> 2)
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_colonization_of_the_Americas
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_French_Concession
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concessions_in_Tianjin#French_concession
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhouwan
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamian
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hankou#Foreign_concessions_period
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> etc.
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> than to Australia, a country whose head of state is the same
as that of America's main former colonizer:
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II
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> and whose flag:
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Australia
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> includes the very same colonialist insignia that America
literally fought its Revolutionary War to remove from American
soil FFS:
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War
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Finally, Xi shows signs of understanding my approach! But here
is his version of it (warning: you cannot make this shit up):
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/xi-says-china-us-must-053929256.html
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> Xi said the people of China and the United States had shared
the same enemy in their fight against Japan
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HTML https://www.wisebread.com/files/fruganomics/imagecache/blog_image_full/files/fruganomics/blog-images/bang%20head%20here.gif
Eurocentrist Xi's Eurocentric First Eurocentric Law of
Eurocentrism: if China and the US must have a common enemy, it
can only be a "non-white" country.
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Re: War
DIR By: england
Date: October 25, 2023, 5:13 am
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HTML https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/25/china-says-us-exaggerates-its-military-threat-in-new-report
China says US ‘exaggerates’ its military threat in new report
They do.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: USChina
Date: October 25, 2023, 11:31 am
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California Gov. Newsom has surprise meeting with China's leader
Xi amid warm welcome in Beijing
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> BANGKOK (AP) — California Gov. Gavin Newsom had a surprise
meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing on Wednesday
after being warmly welcomed by other senior leaders in a display
of friendliness that stands in sharp contrast to the dialogue
between the United States and China in recent years.
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> The governor is on a weeklong tour of China, where he plans to
push for climate cooperation. Newsom's trip as governor, once
considered routine, is drawing attention as it comes after years
of heightening tensions between the U.S. and China.
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> “I’m here in expectation, as you suggest, of turning the page,
of renewing our friendship and reengaging (on) foundational and
fundamental issues that will determine our collective faith in
the future,” Newsom said in brief opening remarks ahead of his
meeting with Wang Yi, China's top diplomat, earlier in the day.
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> Though Newsom was in China to promote cooperation in curbing
climate change, Chinese officials took the opportunity in
welcome speeches ahead of the closed-door meetings to talk about
U.S.-China relations. Wang is preparing to visit the U.S. on
Thursday.
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> Newsom and Xi discussed ways to “accelerate our progress on
climate in meaningful and substantive ways,” the California
governor said at a news conference, but did not mention more
specifics.
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> They also talked about fentanyl, a synthetic drug and leading
killer of young people in the U.S., and China’s role in
combating the transnational shipping of precursor chemicals,
Newsom said.
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> According to China's state broadcaster CCTV, Xi told Newsom:
“I hope your visit will enhance mutual understanding between the
two sides and play a positive role in expanding cooperation
between China and California and promoting the healthy and
stable development of Sino-U.S. relations."
>
> Xi may attend the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in
San Francisco next month and meet with U.S. President Joe Biden,
although China has not formally confirmed his attendance.
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> Newsom is visiting Hong Kong, Beijing, Shanghai and the
provinces of Guangdong and Jiangsu. At a speech at Hong Kong
University on Monday, he promised to continue to cooperate on
climate change regardless of the outcome of the next U.S.
presidential election.
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> He said he raised human rights issues with Wang and the two
also discussed Taiwan, a red-line issue for Beijing. China
claims the self-ruled island as part of its own territory.
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> “I expressed my support for the One-China policy ... as well
as our desire not to see independence,” Newsom said, referring
to the official U.S. policy that recognizes the Communist Party
as the ruling government of China. Officially, the U.S. does not
recognize Taiwan but is its biggest unofficial ally.
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> Wang, the head of the Communist Party’s office of foreign
affairs, said he knows Newsom's trip attracted plenty of critics
but that he views the trip positively.
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> “But I think time and facts will certainly prove that your
visit to China is in line with California people’s wishes and in
line with the American people’s interests and the expectations
of the global society.”
>
> Newsom also met Wednesday with Vice President Han Zheng, who
greeted him with a wide smile and called him an “old friend.”
Han is a past member of the Politburo Standing Committee, an
elite group of leaders within the party.
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> “The China-U.S. relationship is the most important bilateral
relationship in the world, and the sub-national cooperation is
an indispensable part to facilitate the sound and steady growth
of China-U.S. relations," Han said. “I’m sure your weeklong trip
will inject positive energy to the development of the China-U.S.
relationship.”
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> The governor met as well with the head of China's National
Development and Reform Commission, a Cabinet-level agency
responsible for economic policies. They signed a memorandum on
deepening cooperation in environmental issues.
>
> Governors of California, which has an economy larger than most
countries, have a long history of climate collaboration with
China. Democrat Jerry Brown and Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger
also traveled to China to swap knowledge on reducing air
pollution and emissions.
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> Since leaving office, Brown launched the California-China
Climate Institute at the University of California, Berkeley.
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HTML https://news.yahoo.com/california-gov-newsom-rare-friendly-035034870.html
There were no comments to this article worth posting. Mostly
rightists talking out of the side of their necks as usual. The
brain rot is certainly getting worse thanks to Trump.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: .
Date: October 25, 2023, 10:12 pm
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HTML https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/24/chinas-wang-yi-to-pay-rare-visit-to-us-as-two-countries-try-to-repair-ties
China’s Wang Yi to pay rare visit to US as two countries try to
repair ties
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> Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi will travel to the United
States later this week as part of an ongoing effort to repair
the two countries’ strained ties amid growing geopolitical
crises.
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> Wang will visit Washington from October 26-28 and meet US
Secretary of State Antony Blinken and President Joe Biden’s
national security adviser Jake Sullivan, officials said, after
Blinken and other top officials travelled to Beijing in June.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: MilitaryTies
Date: November 13, 2023, 2:05 am
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Biden will push Xi to restore military ties, official says
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> US President Joe Biden will push China to re-establish
military ties this week, according to White House national
security advisor Jake Sullivan.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlizLwIafpw
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: ChinaUS
Date: November 16, 2023, 3:24 am
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Planet ‘Big Enough’ For Both US, China To Succeed: China
President Xi Jinping | Dawn News English
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> US President Joe Biden and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping
had their first face-to-face meeting near San Francisco on
Wednesday and both underscored the need to re-engage and
de-escalate tensions.
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> In his opening remarks, President Biden stressed the need to
prevent competition from escalating into conflict while
President Xi emphasised that turning backs on each other was not
an option for the United States and China.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf5knZvl4CU
Xi: China Is Ready to Be a Partner and Friend of the US
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> Chinese President Xi Jinping talks about the bilateral
relations between the world's two-largest economies. He speaks
during a dinner of business executives at the APEC summit in San
Francisco. (Translated excerpts)(Source: CCTV)
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B431TaVozPQ
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: china
Date: November 16, 2023, 7:56 pm
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HTML https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/china-us-amicable-analysis-1.7030792
One friendly meeting: What's changed, what hasn't in China-U.S.
rivalry
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> Two global giants cleared a relatively modest bar in their
troubled relationship this week: China and the U.S. had a
cordial summit.
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> This is not to be scoffed at. These two superpowers affect
virtually every major international issue, be it economic,
military or environmental.
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> 2024 could prove to be a rocky year, with nationalistic
election rhetoric in both Taiwan and the U.S.
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> promising to resume communications between their militaries
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> This meeting halted the deterioration, she said — "until the
next crisis."
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> U.S. federal agency with a stark warning: China is preparing
for war.
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> China now has far more naval ships than the U.S. — and it's
building them faster. By comparison, Colby says, U.S. military
procurement remains hopelessly sluggish.
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HTML https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/15/joe-biden-meets-with-chinas-xi-jinping-on-sidelines-of-apec-summit
Biden hails ‘real progress’ after four hours of talks with
China’s Xi
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> “There are critical global challenges that demand our joint
leadership.
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> Biden also called on Xi to use his influence with Iran to make
it clear that Tehran and its proxies should avoid provocative
action that could spread the Israel-Hamas conflict across the
Middle East.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: china
Date: November 18, 2023, 1:30 am
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I have to apologize for my confrontational and disrespectful
comments about China
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: rp
Date: November 19, 2023, 9:00 pm
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HTML https://youtu.be/Gl3s1eJfp1o
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