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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: February 13, 2023, 7:53 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLPk3gW5Xgs
Bonus video:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SL4Is0mKZo
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> I like when he says balloon.
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> My favourite part is BAALLOOOOON
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> BALOOOOOOOON BALOOOOOON
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> BALLOOOOOOOOOOOON
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> Ballooooooooooon!!!
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> Ballooooooooon
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest98
Date: February 14, 2023, 3:30 pm
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Where do you think those unidentified objects came from?
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: February 15, 2023, 11:24 pm
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HTML https://apnews.com/article/aerial-objects-shot-down-lake-huron-8d60c429b1bf549a791434f8bd1bcc81
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> Latest downed objects could well be ‘benign,’ US says
> ...
> “The intelligence community is considering as a leading
explanation that these could just be balloons tied to some
commercial or benign purpose,” said White House national
security spokesman John Kirby.
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HTML https://fs-prod-cdn.nintendo-europe.com/media/images/10_share_images/others_3/kirby_30th_anniversary/H2x1_Kirby30thAnniversary.jpg
:D
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: ElevenDaysOld
Date: February 16, 2023, 6:49 pm
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Eleven days old but worth the listen:
Zakaria calls out 'irrational' response by US to Chinese balloon
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saOoYaYz7WI
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> I agree with him on: #1. His very last sentence "even a
balloon creates partisan warfare these days." #2. We should have
an adult [FAIR] relationship with China. #3. The war in Iraq, i
know what he's saying here, refer to movie Shock And Awe 2017.
(Falsely accused of harboring nuclear weapons.)
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> I think he nailed it.. the current politics made it impossible
to ignore the balloon.
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> Now even Zakaria is talking about the damn balloon...
😀.. See what u did social media... 😳
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I think the best point being is that we should already assume
China has taken pictures of every square inch of the U.S. via
military satellites. Lastly, knowing that a nation has
functional nuclear capability is part of the nuclear deterrence
scheme...
Reminder:
China lashes out at US withdrawal from open skies treaty
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> BEIJING (AP) — China on Monday lashed out at Washington over
its withdrawal from the “Open Skies Treaty” with Russia, saying
the move undermined military trust and transparency and
imperiled future attempts at arms control.
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> The treaty, to which China is not a signatory, had allowed
each country overflight rights to inspect military facilities.
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> That leaves only one arms-control pact still in force between
the former Cold War foes, the New START treaty, which limits the
number of nuclear warheads each may have. That treaty will
expire in February and the Trump administration had said it
wasn’t interested in extending it unless China also joined,
something Beijing says it will not do...
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HTML https://apnews.com/article/china-us-withdrawal-open-skies-treaty-dc5d2f77537464c48568e39e628f9ade
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest98
Date: February 17, 2023, 2:51 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6ppK03MmpI&ab_channel=NBCNews
2:11-2:34
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> There's going to be hundreds of these things, I don't mean
balloons, but things of consequence that are going to happen
individually, that don't necessarily reflect any fundamental
change in policy... and so the consequence for it is to shoot it
down, learn as much as we can about it.
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#Post#: 18167--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: US
Date: February 26, 2023, 8:04 pm
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US says it has intelligence that China is considering backing
Russia in Ukraine
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> The US has intelligence that the Chinese government is
considering providing Russia with drones and ammunition for use
in the war, three sources familiar with the intelligence told
CNN.
> It does not appear that Beijing has made a final decision yet,
the sources said, as negotiations between Russia and China about
the price and scope of the equipment are ongoing.
> Since invading Ukraine, Russia has repeatedly requested drones
and ammunition from China, the sources familiar with the
intelligence said, and Chinese leadership has been actively
debating over the last several months whether or not to send the
lethal aid, the sources added. Retired Lt. Col. Alexander
Vindman talks to CNN's Jim Acosta of what the ramifications
could mean for the US. #russia #CNN #jimacosta
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw2lSAWgXhk
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: February 26, 2023, 9:26 pm
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Whether the US claim is truthful or not doesn't matter. China's
mistake was to even give the US the chance to credibly make such
a claim. If (as I recommended a year ago) China had invaded
Manchuria immediately after Russia invaded Ukraine, no one would
take seriously any subsequent US claim that China was supplying
Russia, and thus the US would refrain from such a claim in the
first place.
As I keep saying, the only way to gain the trust of one side is
to voluntarily burn bridges to the other side:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg11788/?topicseen#msg11788
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: Chian
Date: February 28, 2023, 10:11 pm
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Why Russia's Biggest Threat is Actually China
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iibs7buNwxQ
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> Since Russia invaded Ukraine I've always thought it was a
great opportunity for China to overtake valuable lands to their
north.
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> Russia does still have nuclear weapons and an official
doctrine to use them if the territorial integrity of the nation
is threatened. And I am sure Soviet planners during the cold war
did take into consideration that the Chinese border could be
threatened as well.
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> The rewards would be huge, but the gamble is unpredictable.
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> Where specifically? Like the Japanese islands occupied by
Russia?
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> Most of north east russia up to the amur river was taken from
China in the 1800s by russia....
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> You think anyone can come into russian territory and do what
they want lol? First of all its an enourmosly powerfull country
with thousands of equipment facilities all over the country that
basically print weapons. No other country has the capability to
produce as much as russians at a given time frame. Because
soviet union was just overwhelming in that regard and all this
factories are in buisness till now. So whoever comes will face a
really powerful conventional army and specially in defence
russia will be alot harder to break. Lastly they have the most
powerful nuclear arsenal in the world that can strike anywhere
in the world from Sea, ground and air. Just because Russia does
flatten Ukraine does not mean they cant. Its not the objective.
However in all out war, dont make any mistake russia will
unleash the most powerful weapons in their arsenal like Yars,
bulava, kinzhal, sarmat, poseidon to name a few and completely
decimate any invading force and obliterate any country invading
Russia. So stop acting that any country including china can walk
in and do whatever they want. Russia can literally within an
hour erase all countries from face of earth.
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> @Stockfish1511 thats assuming China and US missile defense
systems can't keep up with russian missiles.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: China
Date: February 28, 2023, 10:17 pm
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America U.S. predicts war with China in 2025
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> US General Michael Minihan says that open conflict between
#America and #China could happen as early as #2025.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f52FCWb5FEM&t=28s
Congress weighs nationwide ban of TikTok
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> U.S. lawmakers are proposing a bill that would ban TikTok
nationwide, citing concerns over national security. CBS News
congressional correspondent Nikole Killion joined CBS News to
discuss.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm_MNb9FDic
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 6, 2023, 12:24 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL61XeKiawU
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