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#Post#: 16426--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 14, 2022, 6:07 pm
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But when (answer: never) is Xi going to attempt meaningful
communication?
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/xi-biden-knock-off-democracy-200004368.html
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> "Xi Jinping pointed out that freedom, democracy and human
rights are humanity's common pursuit, and also the Chinese
Communist Party's constant pursuit," the reports said. "The
United States has American-style democracy. China has
Chinese-style democracy."
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Can Xi name a country that does not have a democracy by his
definition? And if not, in other words if every government is
automatically a "democracy", then why (we all know why.....)
even use the word "democracy" and not simply "government"? This
is why Xi's words will always be worthless.
As much as I support US-China friendship, Xi should be given
zero credit for building such a friendship by future historians,
who should instead speculate about how much faster and more
easily US-China friendship could have been rebuilt in an
alternate universe where Xi had never become leader. (Indeed, it
was under Xi that the earlier phase of US-China friendship
deteriorated to the poor condition it is now in.)
#Post#: 16551--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest78
Date: November 20, 2022, 1:43 pm
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China says open to meeting with U.S. defence secretary
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> BEIJING, Nov 20 (Reuters) - China said on Sunday it is open to
a meeting with the U.S. defence secretary on the sidelines of a
regional security forum in Cambodia this week, in a sign of
thawing relations after the countries' top leaders met earlier
this month.
>
> China Defence Minister Wei Fenghe and U.S. Secretary of
Defense Austin Lloyd previously confirmed separately that they
would attend the forum with Southeast Asian countries, the ASEAN
Defence Ministers' Meeting-Plus.
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Entire article:
HTML https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-says-open-meeting-with-us-defence-secretary-2022-11-20/
U.S. VP Harris met briefly with China's Xi at APEC
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> BANGKOK/SHANGHAI, Nov 19 (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President
Kamala Harris on Saturday met briefly with Chinese President Xi
Jinping, a White House official said.
>
> "The Vice President noted a key message that President Biden
emphasized in his November 14 meeting with President Xi: we must
maintain open lines of communication to responsibly manage the
competition between our countries," the official said.
>
> Chinese state broadcaster CCTV confirmed the meeting later in
the morning.
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Entire article:
HTML https://www.reuters.com/world/us-vp-harris-met-briefly-with-chinas-xi-apec-2022-11-19/
#Post#: 16554--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 20, 2022, 2:17 pm
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Mainstream academic gradually catching up to our vision:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-divided-us-china-argues-125100076.html
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> Russia should be divided by US and China, argues political
scientist
> ...
> "In the conditions that exist today, China and the United
States should divide Russia in the proportions of their
greatness, power — in order to pacify it, to make it the largest
pacifist state in the world," Davydiuk said.
>
> According to the political expert, not only Ukraine, but the
whole world will be safe if the regime of Russian dictator
Vladimir Putin were to be destroyed.
> ...
> “Because even the absence of Putin, but not changing the
system leaves the system. The son of (Russian Security Council
Secretary Nikolai) Patrushev will be tougher than Putin and
Patrushev – everyone understands this. And (former Russian
President Dmitry) Medvedev, (Moscow Mayor Sergei) Sobyanin, or
anyone else who comes in, will be pondering revenge.
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Woke comments:
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> China would benefit greatly by acquiring some of Russia's
carbon fuel assets and other natural resources.
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> russia has shown itself to be weak -the chinese should
definitely talk the oil rich lands in the east. there would be
no resistance.
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> China would benefit from invading Russia. Can you picture
Putin pleading for help from the West for help fighting China?
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> I mean China surely have lots of lands stolen and pillaged by
the Russians. The land that Vladivostok stood upon was once
Chinese lands. And America surely wants a piece of the pie too
and would likely take a big chunk of the Kamchatka Peninsula.
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> I wouldn't shed a tear if China decided Russian land and
resources were worth more to them than Taiwan
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#Post#: 16811--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 2, 2022, 5:02 pm
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What was obvious all along finally becomes official:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-judge-dismisses-indictment-against-211340283.html
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> U.S. judge dismisses indictment against Huawei CFO that
strained U.S.-China relations
> ...
> NEW YORK (Reuters) - A U.S. judge on Friday dismissed an
indictment against Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of
Huawei Technologies Co, formally ending a criminal sanctions
case that strained U.S.-China relations.
>
> Meng, whose father Ren Zhengfei founded Huawei and is the
telecommunications company's chief executive, entered an
agreement with U.S. prosecutors last year for the case to be
dismissed four years after her December 2018 arrest.
>
> Prosecutors accused Meng of bank fraud and other crimes for
misleading HSBC Holdings Plc and other banks about Huawei's
relationship with a company that operated in Iran.
>
> They said Meng's actions put banks at risk of penalties for
processing transactions that violated U.S. sanctions.
>
> Huawei has pleaded not guilty to related U.S. criminal
charges.
>
> U.S. District Judge Ann Donnelly in Brooklyn dismissed Meng's
indictment with prejudice, meaning it cannot be brought again.
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Best comment:
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> This lady was KIDNAPPED. Not a single INTERNATIONAL law was
violated. Not a single CANADIAN law was violated. In fact,
Canada does not actually recognize those sanctions. So WHY WAS
SHE EVEN ARRESTED? She should sue everyone involved. It would be
an open and shut case...but it would have to take place in a
NEUTRAL court.
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#Post#: 16825--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 3, 2022, 12:03 am
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Better times:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/jiang-zemin-death-cloaking-xi-084731043.html
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> Talkative and spontaneous, Jiang was not averse to political
showmanship - on a trip to the US he decided to go for an
unplanned morning swim on Waikiki Beach
> ...
> Jiang was open to mending fences with the US after major
diplomatic incidents, pledging support in the wake of 9/11 and
making several trips to meet presidents Bill Clinton and George
W Bush.
>
> Former Singaporean diplomat Kishore Mahbubani recalled
witnessing a meeting between Jiang and then US president Clinton
at a summit in 1993.
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> "Both men were incredibly charming. And what was supposed to
be a hot confrontation turned out to be a very warm encounter,"
he told the BBC. "
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HTML https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3201742/china-us-and-jiang-zemin-reset-how-former-cold-war-rivals-found-decade-unsteady-calm-after-tiananmen
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> Both Jiang and his host, then-US president Bill Clinton, had
faced many questions over deciding to meet on the sidelines of
the inaugural Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation leaders’ forum.
> ...
> Clinton later helped pave the way for Beijing’s accession to
the WTO in 2001 and agreed to confirm the Chinese-inspired
“three noes” policy on Taiwan, during a trip to Shanghai in
1998.
>
> The three noes were that the US would not support Taiwanese
independence; any solution that created “two Chinas” – or one
China and one Taiwan; or Taiwan’s admission to international
organisations, such as the United Nations.
> ...
> “I think Jiang oversaw the best period in US-China ties, which
laid the groundwork for his successors. But it’s premature to
write about his legacy [as much of his efforts and
accomplishments come under attack],” said Pang at Sichuan
University.
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#Post#: 16832--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest90
Date: December 3, 2022, 7:15 am
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The red line: Biden and Xi’s secret Ukraine talks revealed
HTML https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-red-line-biden-and-xis-secret-ukraine-talks-revealed/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1669590619-1
‘[…] since September a flurry of personal diplomacy by Chinese
foreign minister Wang Yi with Nato and the US has led to a rare
moment of public agreement over Russia, when Xi Jinping said
that the world ‘needs to prevent a nuclear crisis on the
Eurasian continent’ in a meeting with Joe Biden at the G20
summit in Bali.’
[…]
‘Yet in September, on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly,
Wang had told Nato Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg that China
‘stays open-minded to dialogues and exchanges with Nato and is
willing to jointly promote the sound and steady development of
bilateral relations … in the spirit of honesty and mutual
respect’.’
And to carry on from the previous post:
‘Beijing was aware of Russia’s plans for a military operation,
according to a source with longstanding close ties to the top
levels of China’s political and military leadership. But the
Russians presented the coming military operation as a ‘limited
operation to recover a lost Russian province [and] reunite
Russia within historical boundaries’. That narrative fitted
China’s own over Taiwan.’
If Biden offered China support with Taiwan, like Clinton did,
China would have no need to ally with Russia. A US-China
alliance could bring Russia to its knees… if either leaders are
willing.
#Post#: 16973--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 9, 2022, 5:22 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/most-adults-america-china-view-100000430.html
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> In China, 66% of adults view the US as an enemy or unfriendly.
Meanwhile, 64% of US adults said the same about China, though
more Republicans (73%) held that view than Democrats (63%).
>
> Enmity toward the US among Chinese adults has softened over
the past six months, Morning Consult said in its summary of the
findings, but "US views of China have hardened."
> ...
> "Republican control of the House of Representatives after the
midterms risks putting relations on a more antagonistic footing
owing to Republicans' greater enmity toward China," Morning
Consult said in its report on the data.
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We need to make this a partisan issue. The instinctive Blue
reaction to seeing Red Sinophobia should be to favour the
opposite position, and to accuse Sinophobic Blues of siding with
Reds. It should be easy to portray present-day Sinophobia as a
continuation of the historical Yellow Peril narrative, which is
in line with how Blues want to portray Reds in general (as
paranoid bigots, which is what they are!). Why is this approach
not more common?
Of course, China is also not doing what it can easily do to make
this a partisan issue. The more genuinely hostile China becomes
towards Russia, the more it will surely win over Blue opinion in
the US. Unfortunately, there is still no indication that China
understands that its only hope is Blue support. All outreaches
by China towards the US to date have been if anything
consciously anti-partisan and therefore bound to keep failing
with both sides.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Peril
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> In the late 19th century, the Russian sociologist Jacques
Novikow coined the term in the essay "Le Péril Jaune" ("The
Yellow Peril", 1897), which Kaiser Wilhelm II (r. 1888–1918)
used to encourage the European empires to invade, conquer, and
colonize China.[6]
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How can anyone not see what is going on here?
#Post#: 17089--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest78
Date: December 17, 2022, 8:20 pm
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Sometimes I get the feeling Jews do not want unity between the
U.S. and China? ;D (I think the devil Yahweh is attacking Kanye
West via rightism and Judaism)!
Ye aka Kanye West Reveals His Diagnosis, Says Satan Is Attacking
U.S. Via China
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> Sunday, December 11, 2022 - Ye (Kanye West) told X17
exclusively today -- during a full face masked interview -- that
he is NOT bipolar and having an episode, but that he might be
autistic. He goes on to explain that China is the real threat to
the U.S. and that Satan is using the Chinese government to
attack us. The designer extraordinaire met with some of his
staff at the Cornerstone Christian Church, where he visited two
weeks ago, to discuss the Donda Academy being housed at this
facility, we're told. You can see a few students leaving the
building.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikxUkVqWc1o
WTF does Kanye West know about China, Hitler, or the U.S.? WTF
does West even know about the devil?
Is West just a Jew shill at this point?:
EXCLUSIVE - Ye Says "We're God's iPhone," Talks Sustainable
Housing And "Getting Past The Past"
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> Saturday, November 19, 2022 - Ye (formerly knowns as Kanye
West) invited X17 inside his new Crenshaw design studio and
explained concept drawings for sustainable and "safe" dome
housing he plans to build in LA, Chicago, and Atlanta
opportunity zones. Ye says humans are like "God's iPhone;" the
we're his "favorite creation" and the "ultimate technology." He
says we need to "focus on humanity" and "get past the past." The
rapper/designer revealed to X17 exclusively that he will run for
President in 2024!
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkZpMZzsOps
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/antropocentricism-the-most-dangerous-ideology-in-the-world/
How can we "get past the past" when the past is why the world is
this effed up in the first place?
Regardless of whatever "mental disorder" diagnosis people wish
to excuse West's western behavior with, firstly, and quite
clearly, Kanye is a Jew through and through! West is just as
insane as every other westerner and rightist! Just as stupid and
lazy-brained as them too...
#Post#: 17464--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 14, 2023, 1:02 am
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Thank you!
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-ayanna-pressley-opposes-committee-180914874.html
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> Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D, MA-7) said she voted against
establishing a bipartisan committee that would examine and
address the competition between the United States and China as
it would “put lives at risk.”
>
> Pressley, one of the 65-Democrat minority who voted against
House Resolution 11 for the Select Committee on the Strategic
Competition Between the United States and the Chinese Communist
Party (CCP), made her comments in an interview with CNN’s
Kaitlin Collins on Thursday, two days after it passed with a
365-65 vote.
>
> “I voted no because, again, it’s another sham effort here,
it’s really clear that this is just a committee that would
further embolden anti-Asian rhetoric and hate and put lives at
risk," Pressley, a member of the progressive group called “The
Squad,” said.
> ...
> While Rep. Jim McGovern (D, MA-2), the House Rules Committee's
top Democrat, expressed concerns over the newly established
committee, such as the potential rise in discrimination, he
eventually voted “yes” after reading the resolution. A total of
146 Democrats supported the Republican-led committee.
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65 vs 146..... With more Demographic Blueshift we should be able
to flip the Blue stance on China eventually?
#Post#: 17576--------------------------------------------------
If only the message were "Cooperate With
Anti-Colonialists"
DIR By: guest78
Date: January 21, 2023, 12:10 am
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If only the message were "Cooperate With Anti-Colonialists" then
America could easily maintain friendship with both China and
Africa at the very same time. We know false-leftists such as
Biden are incapable of such a message though unfortunately. All
these old "white" false-leftist types have to lean on is there
support for "democracy" because they're too lazy-brained to even
be capable of imagining that just because it says "democracy" on
the label it does not necessarily mean that the contents are
'good'. 75,000,000 people voted for Donald Trump in the last
election FFS! It's hard to claim "anti-colonialism" when you
allow westerners like Trump to come to power and subvert the
U.S. further away from Americanism.
South Africa To Hold Joint Drills With Russia & China, US Says
“Cooperate With Democracies”
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> South Africa has announced that it will hold 10-day joint
maritime drills with Russia and China in February. The maritime
exercise will take place from February 17 to 27, off the port
city of Durban and Richards Bay. Over 350 South African army
personnel will take part in the drills alongside their Russian
and Chinese counterparts. The US, which has maintained a
strategic partnership with South Africa for years, has expressed
concern over the move. The drills also coincide with the first
anniversary of Russia’s brutal invasion of Ukraine that started
on February 24 last year. Is South Africa's "neutrality" fading
away?
>
> #russia #southafrica #russiaukrainewar #usa
>
> 0:00 - Introduction
> 0:30 - South Africa Announces Joint War Games With Russia,
China
> 1:50 - South Africa's “neutrality” Fading Away?
> 2:32 - What It Means for Russia, China & South Africa
> 3:56 - South Africa’s Ties With Russia and China
> 4:38 - Opposition Slams South African Govt
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdGlVLBa9Z4
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