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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 28, 2022, 10:39 pm
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As I foresaw:
HTML https://qz.com/2160305/russia-ukraine-war-has-improved-us-perception-of-china/
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> Since Russia invaded Ukraine in late February, the share of
Americans polled who say China is a competitor of the US has
grown from 54% in January to 62% as of March. Meanwhile, the
share who say China is an enemy has fallen from 35% to 25%.
>
> The flip side has happened in American’s perception of Russia:
the share who say Russia is an enemy increased to 70%, up from
41% in January. Meanwhile, only 24% say Russia is a competitor,
a sharp drop from 49% before the war.
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This is the real reason why our enemies are desperate for the
Ukraine war to end quickly. Which in turn is why we should try
to keep it going.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 30, 2022, 8:50 pm
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Demographic Blueshift will help us:
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The huge gap between those who worry about Taiwan/Hong Kong and
those who worry about China defending Russia shatters the False
Left narrative that the current conflict is about democracy vs
autocracy.
The single best move China can make to improve relations with
the US is to turn on Russia. The single best move the US can
make to improve relations with China is to make clear that so
long as China turns on Russia, the US has no interest in
preserving democracy in Taiwan/Hong Kong.
#Post#: 13197--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 3, 2022, 8:48 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-relieved-china-appears-heed-090628181.html
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> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two months after warning that Beijing
appeared poised to help Russia in its fight against Ukraine,
senior U.S. officials say they have not detected overt Chinese
military and economic support, a welcome development in the
tense U.S.-China relationship.
> ...
> "We have not seen the PRC provide direct military support to
Russia’s war on Ukraine or engage in systematic efforts to help
Russia evade our sanctions," a Biden administration official
told Reuters, referring to the People's Republic of China.
> ...
> As well as steering clear of directly backing Russia's war
effort, China has avoided entering new contracts between its
state oil refiners and Russia, despite steep discounts. In March
its state-run Sinopec Group suspended talks about a major
petrochemical investment and a gas marketing venture in Russia.
--- End Quote ---
The US should try to encourage China to keep moving gradually
away from Russia. In order for this to be successful, China
should be shown signals that the US is willing to partially
withdraw its nearby troops in return for China's cooperation on
dealing with Russia. Then China might be encouraged to do even
more against Russia with the hope of eventual full withdrawal of
US troops from the Indo-Pacific.
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#Post#: 13276--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 10, 2022, 8:12 pm
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Improved US-China relations would benefit not only the US and
China, but also all the West Pacific countries which currently
feel as if they have to choose between the two. Imagine how
relaxed the entire region would become if the US and China
switched to being on the same side (against Russia)!
HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/balancing-act-between-china-us-093000446.html
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> The Philippines under Ferdinand "Bongbong" Marcos Jnr - who
has swept to a landslide victory in the country's presidential
election - is expected to tread a careful line between China and
the United States, observers say.
> ...
> Unlike his main rival Robredo - the vice-president, who said
she would seek stronger ties with Washington and distance from
Beijing - Marcos Jnr's tone was friendlier to China during the
campaign.
> ...
> Marcos Jnr also joined his family when they travelled to China
in the 1970s to meet Chinese leaders. "He grew up witnessing the
rapprochement, diplomatic relations and friendly interactions
between China and the Philippines during his father's
administration," said Yang Jinglin, associate professor at the
Centre for China-Asean Studies at the Guangxi University for
Nationalities.
>
> "His mother is friendly to China ... and has a very good
relationship with the Chinese government at a high level, which
is bound to influence Marcos Jnr's foreign policy towards
China," Yang added.
> ...
> Joshua Kurlantzick, senior fellow for Southeast Asia at the
Council on Foreign Relations, said Macros Jnr was not expected
to change the approach to China much, but it remained to be seen
how much closer he would move to the US.
> ...
> Shen Shishun, a researcher with the China Institute of
International Studies, said many Southeast Asian nations did not
want to pick a side.
>
> "The international situation is so complicated at the moment,
countries in Southeast Asia, like the Philippines and Singapore,
are seeking a balanced policy among the big powers, because
siding with one country is certainly detrimental," Shen said.
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The entire issue would evaporate if the epic vision of the US
and China joining forces against Russia were taken more
seriously. But until then, the needless tension will continue.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 12, 2022, 8:11 pm
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Some mainstream journalists gradually catch on:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/central-asia-could-key-driving-182844050.html
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> Central Asia Could Be the Key to Driving a Wedge Between
Russian and China
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This is what the US should be concentrating on!
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> —basically, the “stans,” from Kazakhstan in the north through
Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and
Afghanistan, to Pakistan in the south.
> ...
> To Russia, the stans are potential vassals who will restore
its Soviet Empire; to China, they are potential collaborators
who will host its Belt and Road Initiative.
>
> The conflict in perspectives was on clear display at a
conference I attended in Kazakhstan in 2018. With Kazakh
President Nursultan Nazarbayev looking on, pro-Russian and
pro-Chinese delegates exchanged barbs about the region’s
future—until an American journalist dared to question Chinese
motives, whereupon everyone combined against him.
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The correct approach for America is to side with China against
Russia.
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> I learned three lessons in Kazakhstan’s capital. The first was
that China and Russia are at odds over almost every major issue
in the region; the second, that American diplomacy in the
geographical pivot has been lackluster, lagging far behind not
only Chinese and Russian but also European efforts. The third
lesson, however, was that the U.S. therefore has everything to
gain and little to lose by reviving the 19th-century “Great
Game,” but this time pitting Russia against China rather than
Britain.
> ...
> two months of killing have exposed Russia’s military
shortcomings, strengthened the western alliance, and stiffened
American resolve so much that Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin
says that he intends to see “Russia weakened to the point where
it can’t do things like invade Ukraine.”
>
> This string of setbacks can only be pushing Russia toward
China, but must also have Xi wondering whether Putin is the sort
of friend he wants on the eve of his bid for a third term as
Communist Party Secretary. Even at the North Pole, Putin has
become a liability. China announced a “Polar Silk Road” in 2018,
forging new maritime connections with Europe as the ice melts,
but its efforts are now stymied because the Arctic Council, the
region’s main governance body, is refusing to deal with Russia.
China continues to avoid condemning Russia at the U.N. or
calling Putin’s invasion a war, but it does seem to be getting
cold feet about its authoritarian friend. The Beijing-backed
Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank has frozen lending to
Russia and Belarus and the energy giant Sinopec has withdrawn
its $500 million investment from a Russian gas chemical plant
and from efforts to market Russian gas in China.
> ...
> The best way to punish Putin for the violence he has unleashed
is by inflaming conflicts of interest that will drive his
government and Xi’s apart.
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Yes, but in order to be convincing, this has to be done with
ideological sincerity on the part of the US in wanting China to
gain at Russia's expense.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest55
Date: May 23, 2022, 12:20 pm
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US ready to use force to defend Taiwan, says President Biden |
DW News
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> US President Joe Biden said he would be willing to intervene
militarily to defend Taiwan if it were attacked. It is one of
the strongest statements in support of the island in decades.
Biden also warned that China's increasingly assertive stance
over Taiwan was "flirting with danger".
>
> "We agreed with the One China policy, we signed on to it...
but the idea that it can be taken by force is just not
appropriate," he said.
>
> The US president pointed to Russia's ongoing invasion of
Ukraine, saying that sanctions against Russia should be
continued "in many ways" to send a right message to China over
Taiwan.
>
> His statements appear to clash with the US tradition of
"strategic ambiguity" as Washington usually avoids making any
such explicit guarantees to Taiwan. Taiwan's foreign ministry
thanked Biden and the US government for reaffirming their
commitment to the island.
>
> Biden is on a five-day Asia tour. After three days in South
Korea, he arrived in Tokyo Monday morning, where he launched a
new regional economic plan involving 12 Indo-Pacific states.
>
> The Indo-Pacific Economic Framework for Prosperity, or IPEF,
provides a means for partner countries to deal with key issues
including climate change, supply chain and digital trade, but
does not extend to seeking to negotiate tariffs or ease market
access.
>
> #China #Taiwan #Japan
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxSfOmBHnRo
China responds to comments from Biden about Taiwan l ABCNL
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> ABC News’ Britt Clennett discusses the high tensions between
the United States and China during President Joe Biden’s Asia
tour.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbdWxnhI2V0
#Post#: 13724--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 29, 2022, 3:59 am
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Common sense:
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/ex-malaysia-pm-us-led-122836867.html
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> TOKYO (AP) — Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad
criticized a new U.S.-led economic grouping on Friday, saying it
is intended to isolate China, and won't benefit regional
economic growth without Beijing.
> ...
> “China is a big trading partner for Malaysia, we don’t want to
see any tension, any conflict with China and we hope that the
U.S. will realize that China is there, it’s not going to
disappear, and we have to live with China, which is now richer
than most countries in the world,” he said at “The Future of
Asia,” a conference organized by Nikkei Inc.
> ...
> Mahathir, 96, who served as Malaysia's fourth and seven prime
ministers, was seen for many years as a de facto spokesperson
for less developed countries and frequently criticized the West.
He remains an influential figure in Malaysia.
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I have been saying this since the TPP days:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/msg2085/#msg2085
#Post#: 13729--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest55
Date: May 29, 2022, 11:29 am
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Biden has Taiwan's Back? Does this Escalate Tensions - TLDR News
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> In recent weeks, Biden has increasingly promised support to
Taiwan (before the White House has quickly backtracked). So in
this video we discuss if the US really has Taiwan's back and if
these gaffes could make a conflict with China more likely...
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvvJIXguYn8
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 7, 2022, 9:08 pm
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At least some individuals are still trying:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-eileen-gu-serve-ambassador-223322015.html
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> China’s Olympic freestyle skiing champion Eileen Gu announced
Tuesday at the TIME100 Summit that she will serve as an
ambassador for the U.S. bid to host the 2030 or 2034 Winter
Olympics in Salt Lake City.
> ...
> In a time of great geopolitical tension between the United
States and China, a prominent Chinese figure helping a U.S.
cause is rare. “Having somebody with Eileen’s fantastic profile
worldwide, particularly with the youth, is just a dream come
true for us,” says Fraser Bullock, president and CEO of the Salt
Lake City-Utah Committee for the Games.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: guest78
Date: June 11, 2022, 1:49 pm
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China Threatens War I Beijing's Face To Face Warning To US Over
Support To Taiwan's Independence Bid
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> Chinese and US defence chiefs, Wei Fenghe and Lloyd Austin,
held their first face-to-face meeting in Singapore on June 10.
The Taiwan issue dominated the talks held on the sidelines of
the Shangri-La Dialogue security summit in Singapore.
> At the meeting, Beijing reportedly threatened to “crush” any
“independence plot” in the self-ruled Island. In response,
Washington urged China not carry out “destabilising actions”
near Taiwan.
> #chinataiwan #china #uschina
>
> 0:00 INTRODUCTION
> 1:04 CHINA WILL “SMASH TO SMITHEREENS” TAIWAN‘S INDEPENDENCE
BID
> 3:07 US CALLS CHINA’S BEHAVIOUR ‘PROVOCATIVE’
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eoo2SFmYHk
Comments:
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> as scary as this looks its really gonna happen in our life
time
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> I've heard the US colony of Hawaii still sees itself as
partially occupied (since July 7, 1898) and would still like to
regain its independence today. At least the indigenous
population of Hawaii spoke out in favor of it in 2014. ---
Will the USA now allow the colony of Hawaii to gain
independence?
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> "Beijing will "not hesitate to start a war "if Taiwan declares
independence"..... They have their own political system,
president, economy and army. They have already been independent
for a long time 😏
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> US has to stay out of China's Domestic Affair (Taïwan) !
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> Over 185 countries voted that Taiwan is not a country. I think
this is their internal issue, and China should have the right to
reclaim their territory if there was never an acceptance of a
claim of independence. May China be successful in their
endeavours whether uneducated internet politicians believe I'm
CCP or not.
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> We should not be fought taiwanese,because they are half
brothers of the Chinese also this makes meddlesome of Western
countries in Asia.
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> And no one should underestimate China's lies about Taiwan.
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US-China tensions, maritime security set to come under spotlight
at Shangri-La Dialogue
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> Intensifying competition between the US and China is the
backdrop for what is billed as Asia’s premier defence summit.
But that is not all that is up for discussion at the Shangri-La
Dialogue in Singapore, the first one since the COVID-19
pandemic. From maritime disputes to the Myanmar crisis, the
current environment is quite complex.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GXm5_VCl1k
How likely is a Chinese invasion of Taiwan? | DW News
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> The war in Ukraine has forced Taiwan to re-focus on how it
defends itself from a possible Chinese invasion.
>
> In recent months, Beijing has stepped up military incursions
into Taiwan's Air Defense Identification Zone, raising alert
levels on the island.
>
> Taipei is now thinking of improving training for its nearly
two million reserve force, investing in specialised weapons and
civil defense. And there’s also a greater willingness among
people to be prepared to take up weapons should the time come.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arp5sLBnPQw
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