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       False National Socialism
       By: antihellenistic Date: July 21, 2023, 1:31 am
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       [quote]Exactly the opposite, when the leader of the
       Nationaal-Socialistische Beweging (NSB), [color=black]Anton
       Adriaan Mussert, took over the program of Hitler's party, the
       NSDAP, he removed the anti-Semitic articles. (p. 199)[/color]
       ...
       Mussert's dream was a white-ruled empire of the Greater
       Netherlands (Groot (Rijcks)-Nederland), which included the East
       Indies, Suriname, the Antilles, South Africa, Namibia, Flanders
       (a Dutch-speaking Belgian region), Congo (a Belgian colony) and
       the Netherlands. ... (p. 73)
       ...
       Even though as a fanatical nationalist Mussert admired the Dutch
       people who were able to create colonies like the Dutch East
       Indies ... (Page. 74)
       Like all European fascists, the NSB was imperialist in spirit, a
       concept which also believed that the European settlers were
       culturally and "racially" superior to the people they conquered
       and colonized. ... (P. 87)
       ...
       Facing the threat of Indonesian nationalism, an association
       called Nationale Niew-Guinea Vereniging (Paguyuban Nasional
       Papua) was founded in Amsterdam by a NSB member named P.R.
       Winkler, who also chaired it, on June 10, 1933. This
       association, which had several branches in the Netherlands,
       called for the creation of a province with a European
       population, including Indo, in Dutch colonial Papua - while
       native Papuans would be concentrated in a nature reserve. In
       this way that imitated the colonization of Australia, the
       Netherlands was able to strengthen its claims over all of its
       colonies. ... (P. 87)
       Surprisingly, this thought later became one of the Dutch's
       considerations in continuing to control Papua many years after
       the recognition of Indonesian Sovereignty in December 1949.
       (Page 88)[/quote]
       Source :
       1. Hitler's footsteps in Indonesia by Hoorst H. Geerken p. 199,
       200
       2. Hitler's Traces in the Archipelago by Nino Oktorino p.
       73,74,87,88
       [quote]Anton Adriaan Mussert (Dutch pronunciation:
       [ˈɑntɔn ˈmʏsərt];[1] 11 May 1894 –
       7 May 1946) was a Dutch politician who co-founded the National
       Socialist Movement in the Netherlands (NSB) in 1931 and served
       as its leader until the party was banned in 1945. As such, he
       was the most prominent Dutch fascist before and during World War
       II. Mussert collaborated with the German occupation government,
       but was granted little actual power and held the nominal title
       of Leider van het Nederlandsche Volk ("Leader of the Dutch
       People") from 1942 onwards. In May 1945, as the war came to an
       end in Europe, Mussert was captured and arrested by Allied
       forces. He was charged and convicted of treason, and was
       executed in 1946.[/quote]
       Source :
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Mussert
       Refuting Anton Adriaan Mussert
       [quote]Even at the close of this first period, in 1930, when
       Rosenberg's Mythos appeared, his use of the word "Nordic" was
       strictly qualified by this pronouncement: "…nothing would be
       more superficial than to measure a man's worth by his physical
       appearance (with a centimeter rule and cephalic indices). A far
       more accurate measure of worth is conduct."[/quote]
       Source :
       (A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)
       [quote]'We must accept the mixing of blood as it is. We must not
       call one blood worse than another, one mixture better than
       another. Rather, we must employ other means to breed a higher
       form from this gray mass. We must try to bring to the surface
       the valuable traits of the people living in Germany, to
       cultivate and to develop them, and we must find ways and means
       to prevent the propagation of all the bad, inferior, criminal,
       and decadent tendencies and all the congenital diseases so
       damaging to the Volk.' - Adolf Hitler[/quote]
       Source :
       (Otto Wagener, Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant, 1946 (in
       German)/1978/1985, p. 214)
       [quote]'The Romans gathered the best students from their whole
       empire in boarding institutions. There they were taught and
       trained by the best teachers. This effort did not take the
       fathers’ profession into consideration. Only foreign
       races—Negroes and Jews—were excluded. In all other areas, Jews
       enjoyed Roman liberties; Negroes, on the other hand, were
       granted them only in exceptional cases, when they had made
       themselves deserving through especially outstanding achievements
       for the Empire. Jews could even become ‘Roman Citizens,’ as we
       see in the case of Saint Paul. But the school for pages—that is,
       the training school for the young men intended to enter public
       service—was not open to them. I have a similar institution in
       mind for Germany.' - Adolf Hitler[/quote]
       Source :
       (Otto Wagener, Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant, 1946
       (German)/1978/1985, p. 289)
       [quote]'The third point is that a person must be racially
       flawless. Let him be Germanic, or Roman, or Chinese, or a Jew,
       or an Indian, or a Negro, and so on. I respect all equally. We
       can work with and count on all of them. Each has his established
       traits. Depending on what one is looking for, this one or that
       one is to be preferred for the job in question. It is no
       different with people than with horses or dogs. Once one has
       established the proper race for a particular task, one can rest
       assured that the task will be resolved.' - Adolf Hitler[/quote]
       [quote]"...the concept of keeping the race pure can never be
       transferred from the Jewish example to, for example, the Aryan.
       And what was right and possible there may and can be completely
       incorrect as well as impossible here.” - Adolf Hitler[/quote]
       Source : Wagener - Hitler Memoirs of a Confidant Page 252
       Source :
       (Otto Wagener, Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant, 1946 (in
       German)/1978/1985, p. 143)
       [quote]...Hitler disapproved of such [racial] comparisons. He
       especially opposed reference to physical contrasts of stature,
       coloring, or physiognomy among German ethnic groups. In 1930 he
       told an aid, “Discussions about the race problem will only
       divide the German people further, incite them against one
       another, atomize them, and in this way make them inconsequential
       with respect to foreign affairs.” He admonished senior officials
       of the party to avoid the subject of ethnic diversity in
       speeches and articles: “Everything that unifies and welds the
       classes together must be brought forth, what divides them, what
       re-animates old prejudices, must be avoided. . . .They are the
       surest way to destroy a community.” He remarked that people
       should be selected for leadership roles “not according to
       outward appearance, but by demonstrating inward
       ability."[/quote]
       Source :
       (2013. Richard Tedor, Hitler's Revolution, Ch. 1, 'Racial
       Hygiene' section)
       [quote]The first clear statement on official reorientation had
       come from Hitler himself only seven months after he came to
       power, at the 1933 Nuremberg Parteitag. Hitler said: "We do not
       conclude from a man's physical type his ability, but rather from
       his achievements his race."[/quote]
       Source :
       (A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)
       [quote]"the men who bear the qualities of heroism, strength of
       will, a readiness to sacrifice and faith have played a decisive
       role in deciding Germany's destiny, and they shall continue to
       do so even if they are not all tall, blond or blue-eyed." -
       Adolf Hitler[/quote]
       Source :
       (A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)
       [quote]In mid-1936 the Nationalsocialistische Korrespondenz
       stated with clarity and authority: "From his deeds one can
       recognize the Nordic man - not from the length of his nose and
       the colour of his eyes." In effect this last phase of National
       Socialist race theory was a complete rejection of Günther's
       Nordicism.[/quote]
       Source :
       (A. James Gregor, National Socialism and Race, 1958)
       [quote]"Martin Bormann issued a circular to all Gauleiters
       (regional leaders) in March 1936 calling for employment
       protection of Africans and Afro Germans living and working in
       Germany. This order flew in the face of the 1935 Nuremberg
       Laws.21"[/quote]
       Source :
       Kuzniar-Clark - Black Nazis II Ethnic Minorities and Foreigners
       in Hitler's Armed Forces Page 46
       [quote]Judging someone’s worth according to performance, as far
       as Hitler was concerned, superseded questions of ethnic standing
       within the German community. Though many National Socialists
       based their world view on scientific research on race, the
       government under Hitler also relied on education to realize
       human potential. Goebbels wrote in his diary in June 1936, “the
       Führer sharply disapproves of the work of all the race
       committees." Hitler based his attitude on the potential negative
       impact such activities could exercise on national unity.[/quote]
       Source :
       (2013. Richard Tedor, Hitler's Revolution, Ch. 1, 'Racial
       Hygiene' section)
       [quote]Goebbels, himself a diminutive man with a slight limp,
       recorded in his diary in October 1937, “Discussed race policy
       with Dr. Gross. I reproached him for our flawed standards for
       making selections. According to them, practically every officer
       today would be dismissed."[/quote]
       Source :
       (2013. Richard Tedor, Hitler's Revolution, Ch. 1, 'Racial
       Hygiene' section)
       [quote]As for the fact, however, that one nation in Africa is
       alleged have lost its freedom – that too is but an error; for it
       is not a question of one nation in Africa having lost its
       freedom – on the contrary practically all the previous
       inhabitants of this continent have been made subject to the
       sovereignty of other nations by bloody force, thereby losing
       their freedom. Moroccans, Berbers, Arabs, Negroes, &c., have all
       fallen victim to a foreign might, the swords of which, however,
       were not inscribed ‘Made in Germany’, but ‘Made by the
       Democracies’.” –  Hitler’s Reply to Roosevelt, Reichstag 28
       April 1939.[/quote]
       Source :  13. David Brockschmidt, "History Lessons from the
       Memory Hole - Let them eat their own words,"
  HTML http://adelaideinstitute.org/newsletters/n248.htm
       [quote]A negro with his taboos is far superior to a human who
       firmly believes in Transubstantiation. - Adolf Hitler, December
       13, 1941[/quote]
       Source: Adolf Hitler - Table Talk page 146
       [quote]December 16, 1941 : Führer on Japan : It is astonishing
       that we, with the help of Japan, are destroying the positions of
       the white race in East Asia while England together with the
       Bolshevist are attacking Europe. The white race means the Dutch
       in the East Indies, the British in Burma, Malaya and Singapore,
       the US in the Philippines and the French in Indochina.
       Hitler's remarks about Japan were put forward December 16, one
       week after Japan began its offensive against Southeast Asia.
       This is related to Hitler's statement on the radio which was
       later also broadcast by Japanese radio and the Japanese press
       that they are now carrying out a holy war against the white race
       with one billion Asian people. ..."[/quote]
       Source: Hitler's Footsteps in Indonesia, by Hoorst H. Geerken
       page 210
       [quote]It goes without saying that we have no affinity with
       Japan. They are too alien to us, to their way of life, to their
       culture. But my feelings for Americanism are one of deep hatred
       and disgust
       ...
       How could one expect a country like that to come together—a
       state where 80 percent of its income goes directly to the public
       purse—a country where everything was built with dollars? From
       this point of view, I consider the British State far superior. -
       Adolf Hitler, January 7, 1942[/quote]
       Source: Adolf Hitler - Table Talk page 190
       [quote]The dirt was visible on the blacks only when the
       missionaries, in order to teach them decorum, obliged them to
       wear clothes. In its natural state, the negro is very clean. For
       a missionary, the smell of dirt is agreeable. From this point of
       view, they themselves are the dirtiest pigs. They have water
       horrors. Adolf Hitler, February 19, 1942[/quote]
       [quote]We have this people of ours that are not to be defined as
       a race, and that is now clear to millions. However, gentlemen:
       when I began my apprenticeship twenty five years ago, this was
       not so; there I was always told by middle-class bourgeois
       circles: Yes, people and race are one and the same! No – people
       and race are not the same. Race is a component of blood, a blood
       nucleus, but the people are very often composed not of one race
       but of two, three, four or five different racial nuclei. - Adolf
       Hitler, 26th May 1944[/quote]
       Source :
       Kuzniar-Clark - Black Nazis II Ethnic Minorities and Foreigners
       in Hitler's Armed Forces page 86
       Source: Adolf Hitler - Table Talk pages 319 - 320
       [quote]We were ready to throw our forces into the scales for the
       preservation of the British Empire; and all that, mark you, at a
       time when, to tell the truth, I feel much more sympathetically
       inclined to the lowliest Hindu than to any of these arrogant
       islanders. Later on, the Germans will be pleased that they did
       not make any contribution to the survival of an out-dated state
       of affairs for which the world of the future would have found it
       hard to forgive them. We can with safety make one prophecy:
       whatever the outcome of this war, the British Empire is at an
       end. It has been mortally wounded. The future of the British
       people is to die of hunger and tuberculosis in their cursed
       island. - Adolf Hitler, 4th February 1945[/quote]
       Source : Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler
       (Hitler-Bormann Documents) Page 7
       [quote]Spain, France and England had all weakened, weakened and
       exhausted themselves in this futile colonial enterprise. The
       continent from which Spain and England gave birth, which they
       created piece by piece, has today acquired a completely
       independent way of life and completely selfish views. Even so,
       they were just an artificial world, without a soul, culture, or
       civilization of their own; and judging from that point of view,
       they were nothing more than dirt.  - Adolf Hitler, 7th February
       1945[/quote]
       Source :
       Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler (Hitler-Bormann
       Documents) Page 13
       [quote]The United States and Australia afford good examples.
       Success, certainly - but only on the material side. They are
       artificial edifices, bodies without age, of which it is it is
       impossible to say whether they are still in a state of infancy
       or whether they have already been touched by senility. In those
       continents which were inhabited, failure has been even more
       marked. In them, the white races have impose their will by
       force, and the influence they have had on the native inhabitants
       has been negligible. - Adolf Hitler, 7th February 1945[/quote]
       Source :
       Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler (Hitler-Bormann
       Documents) Page 13
       [quote]The white races did, of course, give some things to the
       natives, and they were the worst gifts that they could possibly
       have made, those plagues of our own modern world-materialism,
       fanaticism, alcoholism and syphilis. For the rest, since these
       peoples possessed qualities of their own which were superior to
       anything we could offer them, they have remained essentially
       unchanged. Where imposition by force was attempted, the results
       were even more disastrous, and common sense, realizing the
       futility of such measures, should preclude any recourse to their
       introduction. One solitary success must be conceded to the
       colonizers: everywhere they have succeeded in arousing hatred, a
       hatred that urges these peoples, awakened from their slumbers by
       us, to rise and drive us out. - Adolf Hitler, 7th February
       1945[/quote]
       Source :
       Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler (Hitler-Bormann
       Documents) Page 13 - 14
       [quote]Transplant a German to Kiev, and he remains a perfect
       German. But transplant him to Miami, and you make a degenerate
       of him - in other words, an American - Adolf Hitler, 7th
       February, 1945[/quote]
       Source: Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler
       (Hitler-Bormann Documents) Page 15
       [quote]I have never liked France or the French, and I have never
       stopped saying so. ... - Adolf Hitler, 15th February
       1945[/quote]
       Source :
       Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler (Hitler-Bormann
       Documents) Page 29
       [quote]I have always abstained from criticizing or passing
       judgment on Italy. I have on the contrary always been at great
       pains to treat her as an equal. Unfortunately, the laws of
       nature have shown that it is a mistake to treat as equals those
       who are not your equals. - Adolf Hitler, 17th February
       1945[/quote]
       Source :
       Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler (Hitler-Bormann
       Documents) Page 33
       On understanding National Socialism, choose Mussert, or Hitler.
       Pick one
       #Post#: 21138--------------------------------------------------
       Re: False National Socialism
       By: christianbethel Date: July 26, 2023, 12:32 pm
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       There are/were tons of Nazis out there: Lanz von Liebenfels,
       William Pierce, Matt Koehl, Frank Collin, Andrew Anglin, Matt
       Heimbach, the subhumans at the 'Unite the Right' rally...
       They're everywhere. They must be wiped out.
       #Post#: 21192--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
       By: antihellenistic Date: July 28, 2023, 10:24 pm
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       [quote]...the adherents of authentic Islam, the Islam of Jihad
       and Khilafah, are the natural allies of honourable, genuine,
       National-Socialists, and the fact that most who today call
       themselves 'National Socialists' neither understood nor feel
       this just shows how successful the Zionists have been in
       manipulating the peoples of the West and how successful their
       anti-NS propaganda has been, for this propaganda has obscured,
       for most peoples, the honourable, non-racist, reality of ethical
       National-Socialism itself. - David Myatt, March 2011[/quote]
       Source :
       The Peregrinations Of David Myatt: National Socialist Ideologist
       As Myatt wrote in his A Reply to Allegations dated 111yf [2000]
       following his "door-stepping" interview by the BBC Panorama team
       in June 2000 {1} in a village near Malvern, England, page 17
  HTML https://archive.org/details/myatt-peregrinations-ideologist_202111/page/n17/mode/2up?q=Khilafah
       [quote]The White Hordes have brought to the world is
       unparalleled in human history - from the ravages of Alexander
       the Greek, to the Empire of Rome, to the wars of Napoleon, to
       the genocide of the native Americans, to the so-called First and
       Second World Wars, to the hundreds of colonial wars in Africa,
       Asia and elsewhere, on to the more recent wars in Afghanistan
       and Iraq. This slaughter includes some of the most barbaric
       killings in history such as theslaughter, in two days, of over
       200,000 people in Japan by the dropping of atomic bombs, and the
       fire-storm in Dresden, in 1945 CE created by bombs dropped from
       aircraft - which killed at least 30,000 people in one night. -
       David Myatt, 1998-1999 [/quote]
       Source :
       The Mythos Of Vindex, Third Edition page 7
  HTML https://archive.org/details/david-myatt-mythos-of-vindex-3/page/n7/mode/2up
       [quote]The First Zionist War - was a modern mostly unconscious
       expression of the numinous, honourable, warrior ethos, and stood
       in complete and stark contrast to the materialism, the hubris,
       of the Magian and their allies and servants in the West,
       represented by the arrogant, profane, White Hordes of Homo
       Hubris. - David Myatt, 1998-1999[/quote]
       Source :
       The Mythos Of Vindex, Third Edition page 10
  HTML https://archive.org/details/david-myatt-mythos-of-vindex-3/page/n9/mode/2up
       [quote]The society which was created after the NSDAP achieved
       power was in many ways a compromise. Hitler himself admitted (to
       Leon Degrelle among others) that it would be the next generation
       - the Hitler Youth generation - which would create a genuine
       National-Socialist society. Organizations such as the SS and the
       Hitler Youth were steps toward the creation of such a National
       Socialist society, and it was these organizations which
       implemented the ideal of personal honour, and respect for
       others, of whatever race and culture. As Hitler and his true
       followers, such as Rudolf Hess, matured in understanding, so too
       did National-Socialism. National-Socialism was not born, fully
       developed and fully-understood, in the early years of the NSDAP
       - it developed slowly, over several decades. Thus, as Hitler
       admitted, Mein Kampf was never intended to be some kind of bible
       of National-Socialism: it was the product of its time and while
       most of the underlying principles of National-Socialism were
       laid down in that book, some principles were not. What was
       written was subject to change, to revision, as
       National-Socialism itself developed. - David Myatt, March
       2011[/quote]
       Source :
       David Myatt: A National Socialist Ideologist by Rachael Stirling
       page 14
  HTML https://archive.org/details/dm-ns-ideologist/page/n13/mode/2up
       68 years ago (1930s)
       [quote]“But if what you say is true, you should not have written
       Mein Kampf beforehand,” I objected.
       “Quite right. And I frequently regret that I did. But at the
       time, when I was in Landsberg after November 9, 1923, I thought
       everything was over. I was in captivity, I was deprived of my
       freedom, the party was expropriated, dissolved—everything seemed
       at an end, even worse than Germany after the Great War. I wrote
       Mein Kampf as a kind of report to the German Volk, chiefly in
       memory of the martyrs of November 9. I wrote it out of the
       narrowness of my cell.
       “When I was released, I had Mein Kampf printed. Perhaps, I
       hoped, it would serve to rally my old friends. And that really
       happened! That is how it came about.
       “But gradually, I saw that many things were, after all,
       different from the way I had seen them through prison bars and
       from the way I had figured them out. And soon I set out to draft
       changes, improvements. But they only turned out to be changes
       for the worse. I thought about withdrawing the book. But it was
       too late. It made its way through Germany, it was even spread
       abroad, and what was right and positive about it did not miss
       its mark. So I kept hands off. I made no more changes. The book
       even gave me the financial basis for reconstructing the party.
       If I were to write it today, a lot would be different. But
       today, I would not write it at all[/quote]
       Source :
       Wagener - Hitler Memoirs of a Confidant page 273
       54 years ago (7th February 1945)
       [quote]The white races did, of course, give some things to the
       natives, and they were the worst gifts that they could possibly
       have made, those plagues of our own modern world-materialism,
       fanaticism, alcoholism and syphilis. For the rest, since these
       peoples possessed qualities of their own which were superior to
       anything we could offer them, they have remained essentially
       unchanged. Where imposition by force was attempted, the results
       were even more disastrous, and common sense, realizing the
       futility of such measures, should preclude any recourse to their
       introduction. One solitary success must be conceded to the
       colonizers: everywhere they have succeeded in arousing hatred, a
       hatred that urges these peoples, awakened from their slumbers by
       us, to rise and drive us out. - Adolf Hitler, 7th February
       1945[/quote]
       Source :
       Bormann, Martin – Testament of Adolf Hitler (Hitler-Bormann
       Documents) Page 13 - 14
       [quote]The only religion I respect is Islam. The only prophet I
       admire is the prophet Muhammad. - Adolf Hitler[/quote]
       Source :
       1. The Enemy of My Enemy (Michael book) Page 152
  HTML https://archive.org/details/enemyofmyenemyal0000mich/page/152/mode/2up?q=admire
       #Post#: 21644--------------------------------------------------
       National Socialism vs. Nazism
       By: christianbethel Date: August 22, 2023, 12:31 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       I want to make this thread to properly delineate the world of
       difference between National Socialism and 'Nazism.' I want to
       discuss their origins, their differences, and their chief
       proponents. This will be a comprehensive thread to illustrate
       how National Socialism is diametrically opposed to Nazism. May
       this thread be an enlightening tool in our battle against
       tribalism.
       To start (from Aryanism.net):
       [table]
       [tr]
       [td][center]National Socialism[/center]
       [list]
       [li]Created after the end of The First World War[/li]
       [li]Anti-tribalist (anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti-homophobic,
       anti-Islamophobic,etc.)[/li]
       [li]Imperialist/Anti-Colonialist[/li]
       [li]Anti-Western[/li]
       [li]Anti-Zionist[/li]
       [li]Rejection of the Old Testament[/li]
       [li]Would've supported the Union during the American Civil
       War[/li]
       [li]Nationalism = Autarchy and Autonomy[/li]
       [li]Tolerance of Mein Kampf[/li]
       [li]Follows Gnostic Christianity[/li]
       [/list]
       [/td]
       [td][center]Nazism[/center]
       [list]
       [li]Created after the end of The Second World War[/li]
       [li]Tribalist (racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic,
       etc.)[/li]
       [li]Colonialist/Anti-Imperialist[/li]
       [li]Western[/li]
       [li]Anti-Semitic[/li]
       [li]Rejection of the New Testament[/li]
       [li]Would've supported the Confederacy during the American Civil
       War[/li]
       [li]Nationalism = Identitarianism[/li]
       [li]Acceptance of Mein Kampf[/li]
       [li]Follows Judeo-Christianity[/li]
       [/list]
       [/td]
       [/tr]
       [/table]
       Any contributions would be most welcome. I will try to find more
       information in the meantime.
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