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       Re: Statue decolonization
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: January 7, 2024, 7:10 pm
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       Another success:
  HTML https://thepostmillennial.com/biden-admin-to-remove-statue-of-william-penn-from-park-commemorating-his-founding-pennsylvania#google_vignette
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       > Joe Biden's National Park Service under Interior Secretary Deb
       Haaland will remove the statue of William Penn from the park
       erected in 1982 to commemorate the 300th anniversary of his
       founding of the colony of Pennsylvania. The park is on the site
       of his original home in Philadelphia.
       >
       > The park, located in Philadelphia near the Delaware River at
       Sansom and Second Streets, will be "rehabilitated" and that
       proposal will include an "expanded interpretation of the Native
       American history of Philadelphia."
       > ...
       > The National Park Service, led by National Park Service
       Director Charles Sams III, who boasts Native American ancestry
       as does his boss Haaland, runs a substantial portion of
       Philadelphia's historic sites.
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       #Post#: 27304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Statue decolonization
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: August 5, 2024, 9:15 pm
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       Our enemies report:
  HTML https://gatesofvienna.net/2024/08/targeting-anne-frank/
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       > An as-yet unidentified disgruntled activist has vandalized the
       statue of Anne Frank in Amsterdam with red paint, to express
       support of Hamas in Gaza. This is the second time this summer
       that the statue has been defaced.
       > ...
       > A statue of Anne Frank on Merwede Square in Amsterdam South is
       once again defaced. In a photo, it can be seen that “Free Gaza”
       is written in red paint on the base of the statue. The hands on
       the image of Anne Frank are also painted red.
       --- End Quote ---
       The part in bold is extremely important. If Frank can be blamed
       for Israel, all Jews alive today can be blamed for Israel, as
       indeed they deserve to be.
       (See also:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-seriousness-in-anti-zionism/<br
       />)
       It gets better:
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       > The Resistance Monument on Apollo Avenue and the image of
       Mahatma Gandhi also are covered in red paint, AT5 news writes.
       --- End Quote ---
       This is essentially a statement that Hitler should have won
       WWII.
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       > Last month, the Palace on Dam Square in Amsterdam was defaced
       with red paint by a group of Palestinian activists. The group,
       Palestine Action, claimed responsibility for the action and
       claimed that the action was directed at the Dutch government.
       They made the place “blood red to symbolize the blood of the
       Palestinians, which at this moment is running through the
       streets of Gaza.”
       --- End Quote ---
       This palace need to be demolished:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Palace_of_Amsterdam
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Palacio_Real%2C_%C3%81msterdam%2C_Pa%C3%ADses_Bajos%2C_2016-05-30%2C_DD_07-09_HDR.jpg/1024px-Palacio_Real%2C_%C3%81msterdam%2C_Pa%C3%ADses_Bajos%2C_2016-05-30%2C_DD_07-09_HDR.jpg
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       > The palace was built as a city hall during the Dutch Golden
       Age in the 17th century.
       --- End Quote ---
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Golden_Age
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       > During this period, Dutch trade, scientific developments, art
       and overseas colonisation was among the most prominent in
       Europe. The first half of the period spanned from the beginning
       of the Eighty Years' War until its conclusion in 1648, with the
       second half lasting until the outbreak of the Franco-Dutch War.
       During the period, Dutch colonialists, many of them affiliated
       with the East India Company and West India Company, established
       trading posts and colonies in the Americas, Southern Africa and
       Asia, protected by the powerful Dutch States Navy. The Dutch
       also dominated the triangular trade and Atlantic slave trade
       during this period.
       --- End Quote ---
       Red paint is better than nothing for now.
       Back to enemy article:
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       > In addition, the facade of the Rotterdam City Hall was defaced
       with red paint last month.
       --- End Quote ---
       This one Hitler actually tried to demolish:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotterdam_City_Hall
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Pays-Bas_Rotterdam_Stadhuis_-_panoramio.jpg/1024px-Pays-Bas_Rotterdam_Stadhuis_-_panoramio.jpg
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       > It is one of the few buildings in the center of Rotterdam that
       survived the bombing of May 14, 1940.[1]
       > ...
       > the building remained virtually intact, but the heat
       surrounding it damaged the structure's concrete.
       --- End Quote ---
       Again, red paint is better than nothing for now. One day we will
       finish what Hitler started:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_bombing_of_Rotterdam#Bombing
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       > In total, 1,150 50-kilogram (110 lb) and 158 250-kilogram (550
       lb) bombs were dropped on the city, mainly in the residential
       areas of Kralingen and the medieval city centre. Most of them
       struck buildings, which immediately went up in flames. The fires
       across the city centre spread uncontrollably and, in the
       subsequent days, were aggravated as the wind grew stronger; they
       merged to become a firestorm. Reports stated that 900 people had
       reported been killed and 642 acres (2.60 km2) of the city centre
       had been destroyed.[27] 24,978 homes,[27] 24 churches, 2,320
       stores, 775 warehouses, and 62 schools were destroyed.
       --- End Quote ---
       HAIL HITLER!
       #Post#: 27305--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Statue decolonization
   DIR By: SirGalahad
       Date: August 5, 2024, 11:02 pm
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       I don’t think that Anne Frank herself can be blamed for Israel,
       but I think that her story has been used to justify both the
       creation of Israel, and the violence that Israel has committed,
       for nearing a century now. If I wanted to reinterpret the act of
       painting the statue’s hands red in a socially acceptable way
       that still reflects true leftism, then that’s how I would
       interpret it. But either way, that’s not gonna stop people from
       interpreting the act in the less charitable way, especially when
       the less charitable reasoning is just as likely. Either way, I
       feel like doing that to the statue was kind of just “bad optics”
       (as rightists would say), and doesn’t really further our cause
       in any positive way. I’d rather not give our enemies potential
       ammunition against us. Or our allies, for that matter. A lot of
       good people will find it distasteful as well
       #Post#: 27306--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Statue decolonization
   DIR By: SirGalahad
       Date: August 5, 2024, 11:08 pm
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       Also, now that I think about it, I wouldn’t even be surprised if
       the person who did it, wasn’t even pro-Palestine. Obviously it’s
       very possible for someone on the pro-Palestine side to have done
       it, but I also wouldn’t necessarily be surprised if a pro-Israel
       person did it to make the pro-Palestine side look progressively
       worse by association. Most of these instances involving a
       pro-Palestine protestors supposedly defacing or damaging
       something, mention unnamed perpetrators who weren’t seen during
       the crime and obviously weren’t apprehended, so you can’t really
       take a lot of this stuff at face value
       #Post#: 27307--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Statue decolonization
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: August 6, 2024, 12:07 am
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       "I don’t think that Anne Frank herself can be blamed for Israel"
       If you believe she did not write her diary herself, and that the
       real Anne Frank hated Jewishness, you can hold such a position.
       On the other hand, if we assume she did write her diary herself
       (as Jews themselves insist that she did), then whether or not
       she can be blamed depends on what she wrote in her diary from
       which we can infer her views about Jewishness.
  HTML https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-if-we-bear-all-this-suffering-and-if-there-are-still-jews-left-when-it-is-over-then-anne-frank-35-41-43.jpg
       The above quote suggests that she wants there to be Jews left
       and that Jews not be doomed. Therefore she can indeed be blamed
       for Israel, the purpose of which (as Zionists themselves keep
       telling us) is to guarantee that there are always Jews left and
       that Jews never be doomed.
       "I also wouldn’t necessarily be surprised if a pro-Israel person
       did it to make the pro-Palestine side look progressively worse
       by association"
       Whoever actually did it, the best response at this time is for
       our side to cheer it. If it's the pro-Israel side doing it, let
       them do the work for us in increasing our morale!
       #Post#: 27529--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Statue decolonization
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: August 23, 2024, 9:32 pm
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       We should always enjoy our enemies' reactions to non-Western
       statues:
  HTML https://www.newsweek.com/huge-hindu-statue-texas-sparks-conservative-backlash-1942732
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       > Conservatives are raging over the arrival of a 90-foot tall
       statue of Hanuman, a Hindu deity that is half-human and
       half-monkey, in Texas.
       > ...
       > Conservatives, particularly those identifying themselves as
       Christians, quickly lashed out at images and videos of the
       statue, with some claiming that the figure was "demonic."
       >
       > "This is a Hindu statue they just built in TX. I rebuke this
       demonic filth in the mighty name of Jesus Christ,"
       @itsmorganariel, a self-described "Christian activist," wrote
       while sharing a video on X, formerly Twitter.
       --- End Quote ---
       Jesus himself, meanwhile:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/gnosticism/msg17903/#msg17903
       Continuing:
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       > "A Hindu temple just unveiled a statue of their demonic Lord
       Hanuman ... in Texas," the End Time Headlines account wrote.
       >
       > "90-foot statue of Hindu demon Hanuman erected in Houston,
       Texas. It is now the third tallest statue in America," wrote
       @AFpost, an account that purports to share news "from an America
       First perspective."
       > ...
       > Some other conservative X users shared racist suggestions that
       the statue resembled police murder victim George Floyd
       --- End Quote ---
       :D
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       Re: Statue decolonization
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: January 21, 2025, 4:21 pm
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  HTML https://apnews.com/article/martin-luther-king-jr-holiday-alabama-mississippi-0f535594cf50af7103ca2d953e1bc9a1?t
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       > Alabama and Mississippi will also honor Robert E. Lee on
       Martin Luther King Jr. Day
       > ...
       > In the years after the Civil War, white politicians in
       southern states created multiple holidays to honor Confederate
       leaders and dead Confederate soldiers. Alabama lawmakers in 1901
       named a January state holiday for Lee. Mississippi did the same
       in 1910.
       --- End Quote ---
       How was this not treason?
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       > Rep. Kenyatté Hassell said he wants to try again in Alabama in
       the legislative session begining next month. It is disrespectful
       to King’s memory and the struggle of the civil rights movement
       to celebrate him alongside a Confederate general, Hassell, said
       Hassell, a Democrat from Montgomery.
       >
       > “There are fundamental difference between General Lee and Dr.
       King. The Confederate general, he fought the preserve slavery
       and uphold the whole institution of white supremacy. Dr. King
       was a civil rights leader who fought for equality and justice
       for all people,” Hassell said.
       > ...
       > Hassell in 2023 introduced legislation, co-sponsored with more
       than a dozen other lawmakers, that would remove the reference to
       Lee on the January holiday. Another 2024 bill would have moved
       the Lee holiday to Columbus Day in October, which coincides with
       the month of his death. Neither bill made it to a floor vote.
       >
       > In Mississippi, Rep. Kabir Karriem, a Democrat from Columbus,
       introduced legislation this session that would remove the
       recognition of Lee from the holiday. The bill states the purpose
       is to “reflect the transformative power of Mississippi from its
       past to its present by celebrating holidays that wholly reflect
       the remarkable strides made by all citizens.”
       > ...
       > Many states in the South have opted to abolish or rename
       Confederate-related holidays.
       >
       > Louisiana in 2022 struck Robert E. Lee Day and Confederate
       Memorial Day from the list of official state holidays.
       >
       > Virginia in 2020 scrapped a holiday honoring Lee and
       Confederate Gen. Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson, both natives of the
       state, to make Election Day a state holiday.
       >
       > Georgia in 2015 changed Confederate Memorial Day to the
       neutrally titled “State Holiday.” Arkansas in 2017 ended the
       state’s practice of commemorating Lee on the same day as King,
       leaving only Alabama and Mississippi remaining.
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 32193--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Statue decolonization
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: February 18, 2026, 1:50 am
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gRGKaWCj4l4
       Woke comments:
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       > The British regime invited the "Lunar" new year to avoid
       having to say "Chinese."
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       > It originated from colonial era Hongkong under British rule.
       They changed the official name of the holiday from Chinese New
       Year to Lunar New Year, most likely as a way to desinicization.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > This is the strategy made by the Westerner trying to minimize
       Chinese soft power&#65292;and as usual, SK play the pilot at the
       front.
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       > Wang Guan on the Hub @cgtn and Mimi @wavemedia Please STOP
       calling CHINESE New Year
       > LUNAR new year! Crazy that even Chinese in China on a Chinese
       platform repeat whatever western media says like mindless
       parrots . Shame on them !
       --- End Quote ---
       I would go further and point out that calling Chinese New Year
       "Chinese New Year" (and similarly with other non-Western
       versions) while calling Jan 1 "New Year" is still Eurocentric,
       as it implies that Jan 1 is the standard version. Rigorous
       non-Eurocentrists should call Jan 1 "Gregorian New Year".  ;D
       On a different note, the term "Spring Festival" is a modern name
       (which I therefore also discourage):
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_New_Year#Names
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       > In Chinese, the festival is commonly known as the "Spring
       Festival" (traditional Chinese: &#26149;&#31680;; simplified
       Chinese: &#26149;&#33410;; pinyin: Ch&#363;njié),[16] as the
       spring season in the lunisolar calendar traditionally starts
       with lichun, the first of the twenty-four solar terms that the
       festival celebrates around the time of the Chinese New Year.[17]
       The name was first proposed in 1914 by Yuan Shikai, who was the
       interim president of the Republic of China.[18] The official
       usage of the name "Spring Festival" was retained by the
       government of the People's Republic of China, but the government
       of the Republic of China based in Taiwan has since adopted the
       name "Traditional Chinese New Year".[19]
       --- End Quote ---
       Yuan dressed like this:
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/YuanShikaiPresidente1915.jpg/500px-YuanShikaiPresidente1915.jpg
       Any questions?
       More about Yuan:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan_Shikai
       --- Quote ---
       > Yuan began to re-institute elements of state Confucianism.
       --- End Quote ---
       ::)
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       Re: Statue decolonization
   DIR By: rp
       Date: February 22, 2026, 12:15 pm
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       "Rigorous non-Eurocentrists should call Jan 1 "Gregorian New
       Year".  ;D"
       At home we would always use "English New Year", "English
       Birthday", etc.
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