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       Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 5, 2023, 9:17 pm
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       I will probably not be recommending any post-Counterculture-era
       music.
       "Electronic Dance Music."
       I'm not really a fan of this genre myself, but do you know D&D?
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYgISZciQow
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3dFfU5qnvE
       They were also in the compilation that I mentioned here:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/is-counterculture-still-alive/msg18865/#msg18865
       [quote]
  HTML https://www.discogs.com/master/1333715-Various-Velfarre-J-Pop-Night-Presents-Dance-With-You[/quote]
       They often shared ad space with Chinen back in those days.
       Example:
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       I like this approach (as opposed to everyone doing their own
       ads) as it generates an atmosphere of solidarity between
       artists.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_fQjULSgfA
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       Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: HikariDude Date: May 6, 2023, 1:45 pm
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       D&D, though where that sexist Eurocentrist Nakata got its
       influence for Perfume's "Techno-pop" concept, sounded much
       different from Perfume. D&D has more emotion and simplicity in
       their music, and not to mention it's much neater and higher
       quality than Perfume's music.
       There's a practice in Western classical music that has revived
       in the EDM scene (which probably came from Aristotelean
       philosophy). Tension and release. Where it is the duty of a
       viewer to judge art for what it demonstrates, tension and
       release (also known as the build and drop in EDM culture) is an
       auditory illustration that makes it difficult to judge the
       demonstration, which lies the artist's intent to manipulate our
       reactions (Jewish tendency). On the other hand, I'd prefer it if
       it was done to demonstrate a song's value or to narrate a play
       or movie (which most of the time, it doesn't).
       D&D, despite their music's genre being EDM, had less tension and
       release, which makes it easier to judge the emotion in their
       music.
       "I like this approach (as opposed to everyone doing their own
       ads) as [sharing ad space] generates an atmosphere of solidarity
       between artists."
       Not to mention it requires less work to put up. Living with
       roommates demonstrate the same purpose since it builds an
       alliance between the people living while requiring less work to
       live in (which both practices suit well for:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/simple-living-movements/
       ).
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       Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 6, 2023, 6:12 pm
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       "D&D has more emotion and simplicity in their music, and not to
       mention it's much neater and higher quality than Perfume's
       music."
       It is probably a good thing that D&D ended before the
       Counterculture era ended. Had it tried to continue, it might
       have been pressured to adapt to subsequent trends. As it is, at
       least we can remember it as an untainted phenomenon marking the
       last few years before the collapse.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neOPI1i0yi4
       "Living with roommates"
       I don't think this is a good comparison. Serious artists
       typically need a lot of privacy. Arranging for them to live
       together would lead to all kinds of extra trouble. Indeed this
       is why they need managers/agents/PAs/etc. to keep them from
       having to interact with the outside world more than is
       necessary.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpO2aseO_u0
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       Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: HikariDude Date: May 6, 2023, 9:28 pm
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       "Had it tried to continue, it might have been pressured to adapt
       to subsequent trends."
       Then the quality of their music stood out.
       "I don't think this is a good comparison. Serious artists
       typically need a lot of privacy. Arranging for them to live
       together would lead to all kinds of extra trouble."
       I see. It does seem less stressful for an artist/viewer to be
       alone, that way they can only deal with the art. As for me when
       I have space and listen to music or enjoy art, I do have a vivid
       imagination, and when I sense something that does not fit in
       with my music and imagination, I feel quite disturbed.
       Maybe people destined to be artists probably shouldn't have
       roommates, that way their spiritual quality improves at their
       pace.
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       Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 7, 2023, 5:24 pm
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       I actually would have preferred Lufkin to have never got
       involved (though with Komuro being her boss she didn't really
       have a choice) with 1998 FIFA World Cup music:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLKBqhEp_uM
       which tried to be epic (in particular, to cater to Western
       audiences) and ended up being a pretentious embarassment,
       comparing especially unfavourably with:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J__OgqG1CXs
       which set out to make fun of the whole event (catering purely to
       local audiences) and ended up becoming a festive classic. This
       goes back to what I was saying about how catering to Western
       audiences never ends well (but laughing at them - note the MV's
       inclusion of deliberately excessive quantities of Western
       architecture, but shot in humour, to say nothing of opening the
       arrangement with the French national anthem - can work
       wonders!).
       #Post#: 20163--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: HikariDude Date: June 6, 2023, 9:32 am
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       I saw in this recent post:
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       after you quoted the good news that happened for refugees in New
       York (which I'm happy about), you put a post-Counterculture song
       to celebrate. Why is that? I just thought you wouldn't recommend
       post-Counterculture era music.
       I understand that there has been no high points or respectable
       works in any field since 9/11, but from this past era, what
       post-Counterculture music do you (or did you) have hope for?
       #Post#: 20169--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 6, 2023, 6:39 pm
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       I meant inside this topic I wouldn't be recommending
       post-Counterculture-era music. Elsewhere I post whatever suits
       the occasion.
       Back here, I am ready to post more Counterculture-era music. I
       am just waiting for the discussion to continue so I can post
       along with it! Without an ongoing discussion, it is harder to
       decide what to post. More duets? More song dramas? Or should I
       just post whatever I myself am listening to in private at the
       moment of posting?
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       Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: HikariDude Date: June 6, 2023, 7:11 pm
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       "I meant inside this topic"
       Thanks for making it clear.
       "Elsewhere I post whatever suits the occasion."
       So if an individual from Tokyo does something noble, even a song
       that is complex, like 「TOKYO GIRL」 by Perfume,
       could do for other topics?
       "should I just post whatever I myself am listening to in private
       at the moment of posting?"
       I made this topic for any music recommendation, whether it is
       songs, pieces, or even OSTs from games, films, TV shows or
       theatre. As long as it's music, this is the place for it. I also
       made for people to have a better understanding of music in
       general.
       But if you would like to tell me, what have you listened to at
       the moment?
       "I am ready to post more Counterculture-era music"
       How would you contrast modern South Korean music with
       Counterculture examples? Would artists like Seo Taiji and SM
       Entertainment's 90s artists (e.g. H.O.T, S.E.S.) be the
       examples. If not, would the examples be Trot or something else?
       #Post#: 20175--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Recommended music to listen to
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 6, 2023, 9:06 pm
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       "what have you listened to at the moment?"
       I just posted it above!
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/recommended-music-to-listen-to/msg20169/#msg20169
       But that was while writing that post. Now at the moment of
       writing this post, I am listening to:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gav5QlXLSVQ
       See also:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/facial-aryanism/msg17777/#msg17777
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       Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
       By: HikariDude Date: June 20, 2023, 10:17 am
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       Something I read on the Wikipedia for Sukeban Deka actor Yoko
       Minamino is that she was considered as one of the shitennou
       (others in bold):
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoko_Minamino#History
       [quote]Along with Shizuka Kudo, Miho Nakayama, and Yui Asaka,
       Minamino was considered one of the Four Divas
       (四天王, Shitennō) of the time until she
       temporarily suspended her career in 1992.[/quote]
       I know you would listen to Minamino and Kudo, but would the
       quote mean you would listen to Nakayama and Asaka?
       Speaking of J-pop, what artists would you recommend from the
       compilation mentioned here:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/recommended-music-to-listen-to/msg18865/#msg18865
       [quote]
  HTML https://www.discogs.com/master/1333715-Various-Velfarre-J-Pop-Night-Presents-Dance-With-You[/quote]
       ?
       Edit: Please move this to:
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