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Westernized Hedonist "Buddhism" vs Real Buddhism
By: rp Date: May 2, 2023, 3:29 am
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Low-intellect pothead Westerner Duncan Trussel explains hedonist
"Buddhism" to Lex Fridman (Jew):
HTML https://youtu.be/Wa8Y-L0ByNw
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Re: Westernized Hedonist "Buddhism" vs Real Buddhism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 2, 2023, 5:43 pm
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Among present-day Westerners, I find that it's generally the
anti-Buddhist Westerners who understand Buddhism more
accurately. They are the ones who at least grasp Buddhism's
broad direction, and accurately acknowledge that it is
incompatible with Western thinking, hence end up opposing
Buddhism. The supposedly "pro-Buddhist" Westerners are much more
dangerous to Buddhism by claiming it is reconciliable with
Western thinking, which necessarily requires inverting its
direction.
(Real) Buddhism: Samsara is the problem; Nirvana (escaping
Samsara) is the solution.
Western anti-Buddhism: Samsara is fine; Buddhism is pessimistic
for claiming Samsara is the problem.
Westernized "Buddhism": Samsara is fine and only a problem
because we think it is is problem; Nirvana (the name for the
solution) is learning that Samsara is fine.
The best argument against Westernized "Buddhism" is that its
version of "Nirvana" would have to be reiterated in every
rebirth indefinitely! We are born, we "learn" that Samsara is
fine, we die, and then we are reborn and must "learn" all over
again that Samsara is fine! How is this a serious solution?! In
every rebirth we would still have to re-experience the
pre-"learning" stage first!
(Recall the adult view that children need their Original
Nobility crushed, following which they will be grateful and then
mature, reproduce and crush the next generation of children's
Original Nobility. This is essentially what we are dealing with
above, except with physical reproduction replaced by subjective
rebirth. In fact the two go together!)
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Re: Westernized Hedonist "Buddhism" vs Real Buddhism
By: antihellenistic Date: May 2, 2023, 9:30 pm
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[quote]We are born, we "learn" that Samsara is fine, we die, and
then we are reborn and must "learn" all over again that Samsara
is fine! How is this a serious solution?! In every rebirth we
would still have to re-experience the pre-"learning" stage
first![/quote]
This activity is more close to Aristotelian Empiricism
[quote](Recall the adult view that children need their Original
Nobility crushed, following which they will be grateful and then
mature, reproduce and crush the next generation of children's
Original Nobility. This is essentially what we are dealing with
above, except with physical reproduction replaced by subjective
rebirth. In fact the two go together!)[/quote]
This useless activity is closer to Judaism materialism.
Fundamental Part of Western [s]Barbarism[/s] Civilization
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Re: Westernized Hedonist "Buddhism" vs Real Buddhism
By: guest98 Date: May 3, 2023, 7:41 pm
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Jew's and "white's" work towards the same goal, which is to make
the material world, prison of suffering and illusion, more and
more difficult to escape from, and eventually, if they succeed
in their plans, impossible to escape from. Sustainable western
civilization and eternal Zion are the same thing.
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Re: Westernized Hedonist "Buddhism" vs Real Buddhism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 3, 2023, 9:11 pm
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See also:
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Re: Westernized Hedonist "Buddhism" vs Real Buddhism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 4, 2025, 8:20 pm
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Prager inverts Buddhism:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpYQZLZ6heY
Prager says that expectations are problem, not desires.
Actially, it is desires that are the problem, not expectations.
Expectations are merely what you necessarily get from applying
standards. What is:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratimok%E1%B9%A3a
if not explicitly stated expectations for followers? Thus to be
opposed to expectations (as Prager is) is to be opposed to
Buddhism itself.
On the other hand, let's examine Prager's examples of desires he
considers unproblematic.
[quote]world peace[/quote]
I dislike war, but to desire peace is to imply that for the sake
of peace it is worth forgetting injustice. (Obviously this is
what Prager wants the world to do with regard to Western
colonialism in general and Israel in particular, but I digress.)
The correct attitude is to prefer peace but EXPECT justice, thus
be prepared to forgo peace if the EXPECTATION of justice demands
it.
[quote]cure for cancer[/quote]
Should we not prefer absence of cancer in the first place, and
hence EXPECT behaviour towards this end? To desire a cure to a
given problem is to imply willingness to create any number of
new problems so long as each new problem subsequently addressed
with cures eventually (never mind.that finding each one cure
could itself involve creating multiple new problems).
[quote]kinder people[/quote]
If we have N kind people + M unkind people, Prager's desire
could be arbitrarily gratified by increasing N without ever
doing anything about M. What we should be doing is not desiring
kinder people, but EXPECTING 0 unkind people.
[quote]want my kids to grow up to be fine human beings[/quote]
If Prager had never reproduced, he would not have to worry about
them growing up to be otherwise. His desire follows from failing
to EXPECT ethical behaviour from himself.
[quote]and get married[/quote]
If Prager had never reproduced, he would not have to worry about
them failing to get married. Again, his desire follows from
failing to EXPECT ethical behaviour from himself.
[quote]and make a family[/quote]
Prager is nothing but a Yahwist.
[quote]I have a million desires. And I think it's a good thing
to have desires.[/quote]
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