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       Re: Why You All Suck
       By: MAGAmorons Date: May 5, 2023, 4:11 pm
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       MAGA-Morons also claimed victory even though they clearly
       lost...  ;D
       MAGA delusions didn't work out too well for them in the real
       world either....
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       Re: Why You All Suck
       By: Ascesis Date: May 5, 2023, 4:26 pm
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       >MAGA-Morons also claimed victory even though they clearly
       lost...
       Telling 90sRF to stop using verbal Jewry to ignore my arguments,
       or else I'll take it as a sign that I won the argument... Means
       I lost the argument? Outstanding.
       What would YOU think about the validity of your opponent's
       beliefs if they repeatedly ignored your arguments by twisting
       your words, strawmans, bad faith, and dumb Ad Hominems?
       But hey, its great to hear from you again flake.
       #Post#: 19221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why You All Suck
       By: URANeffinCREEP Date: May 5, 2023, 4:48 pm
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       I noticed you logged back in immediately after I posted, which
       makes me think you are just hovering around this forum like a
       stalker waiting for something to respond to.
       What is your obsession with me you creepy effin weirdo!? Do I
       really need to call the police on you? Shouldnt you be chasing
       nasty hoodrats around the gym or something, or do you just do
       that in your off time when you are not obsessing over me on the
       internet? Why are you so desperate to get sued by me in civil
       court?
       #Post#: 19222--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why You All Suck
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 5, 2023, 5:01 pm
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       "you forfeit the right to say that anyone calling themselves
       absentmindedly calling themselves "white", should be treated as
       Western Chauvinist"
       No problem, since I was the one warning against doing this
       before you even showed up:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/marathon-the-battle-that-gave-birth-to-western-civilization/msg16801/#msg16801
       [quote]there exist some sincere anti-racists who mistakenly
       think they have a social duty to identify as "white" in order to
       "acknowledge their privilege". Those who identify as "white" for
       this reason are not to be prematurely assumed to be "white" on
       account of their self-identification alone.
       The most reliable way to tell whether or not apparent
       anti-racists who say they are "white" are actually "white", as
       always, is whether or not they voluntarily refrain from
       reproducing.[/quote]
       "millions of such "white" people have not reproduced."
       Many of these would like to reproduce, but have merely been
       unsuccessful in this endeavour. They are still "white".
       It is the remainder, who consider their bloodline better not
       perpetuated, who can be considered not "white".
       #Post#: 19225--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why You All Suck
       By: guest98 Date: May 5, 2023, 6:19 pm
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       It seems like you care a bit too much about "white" people.
       "Whiteness" is destined to be destroyed, might as well let go.
       #Post#: 19226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why You All Suck
       By: Ascesis Date: May 5, 2023, 6:28 pm
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       >No problem, since I was the one warning against doing this
       before you even showed up... Those who identify as "white" for
       this reason are not to be prematurely assumed to be "white" on
       account of their self-identification alone.
       This addresses people who CONSCIOUSLY call themselves "white",
       not UNCONSCIOUSLY. And even if you were truly saying this the
       entire time, then why argue me with me on this? You lost this
       one. Moving on.
       >The most reliable way to tell whether or not apparent
       anti-racists who say they are "white" are actually "white", as
       always, is whether or not they voluntarily refrain from
       reproducing.[/quote]
       You again have ignored my point that reproduction does not
       magically make someone fervently believe in something, but also
       somehow not, at the same time. You lost this one. Moving on.
       #Post#: 19228--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why You All Suck
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 5, 2023, 7:01 pm
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       "This addresses people who CONSCIOUSLY call themselves "white""
       No, the anti-racists who call themselves "white" to acknowledge
       privilege (which they use to mean undeserved advantage rather
       than advantage deserved on account of greater inherent
       importance) are calling themselves "white" without consciousness
       of "whiteness" as a claim of greater inherent importance over
       "non-whites".
       "reproduction does not magically make someone fervently believe
       in something"
       The intention to reproduce reflects that they already believe in
       it.
       #Post#: 19229--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why You All Suck
       By: Ascesis Date: May 5, 2023, 7:01 pm
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       My question:
       "(the Chinese) do have a space program, and they do have
       industry, they do have AI, Et cetera."
       Your response:
       >Copying whom?
       Technocrats. I'm not responsible for something bad, if someone
       else did it first?
       You show a stunning amount of (willful) ignorance of Chinese
       history, if you ignore all of its eras of violence and
       technological innovation made by the Chinese well before the
       Italian Renaissance.
       But does this mean the Chinese should go extinct? [s]Yes, as
       does most of Humanity[/s] No. The Han Chinese, much like
       "whites", are a broad and often vaguely defined group of people.
       They have been violently Sinicizing people for millennia, which
       makes the definition of "Han Chinese" just about as vague as
       "white" is. Consider how the "white" club used to only include
       the English & French, but eventually, "white" began to mean
       Germans, Iberians, Italians, and Slavs. Nowadays, when you look
       at American census forms you'll even see Arabs & Hispanics
       grouped together as "white". Differences do exist between the
       Han and "whites", but this fact remains.
       My point is that, when you look at broad and often loosely
       defined groups of people, you see a microcosm of Humanity; the
       noble, ignoble, and mediocre. Yes, the spiritual Jews exist
       within all these groups and should be dealt with. But will you
       actually decrease ethnic discrimination, and ethnic tensions, by
       lumping the noble and ignoble in one broad group, and say they
       should all just go extinct, while not applying the same
       standards to other groups? I think you all know the answer to
       this.
       #Post#: 19230--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why You All Suck
       By: Ascesis Date: May 5, 2023, 7:09 pm
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       [b]>No, the anti-racists who call themselves "white"... The
       intention to reproduce reflects that they already believe in it.
       [/b]
       Everything I said before can be applied to what you said here.
       This is the umpteenth time I've told you to stop ignoring the
       question. From now on, everytime you do this, I will take it as
       an official concession of defeat from you. Give me a real
       answer, or shut up. Moving on.
       #Post#: 19231--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why You All Suck
       By: antihellenistic Date: May 5, 2023, 7:45 pm
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       [quote]Telling 90sRF to stop using verbal Jewry to ignore my
       arguments, or else I'll take it as a sign that I won the
       argument... Means I lost the argument? Outstanding.
       What would YOU think about the validity of your opponent's
       beliefs if they repeatedly ignored your arguments by twisting
       your words, strawmans, bad faith, and dumb Ad Hominems?[/quote]
       90sRetrofan's data arguments even not yet answered by you
       through data and another philosophical logic. So, you still not
       yet able to answer him. We don't have reason to agree with you.
       Even on several times until your recent post, you just judging
       him without any historical, political, and ideological logic.
       You just showing your inability to answer, once again. You lost
       and you will be our target like how other "whites" being on our
       subject of retaliation
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