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Re: Why You All Suck
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 3, 2023, 11:30 pm
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"You can argue the Arabs & Chinese kind of did."
[img]
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Do Rows 4 and 5 cluster with Row 1 or with Rows 6, 7, 8 and 9?
"good people with beige skin exist."
Uninfected people exist at the outbreak location. They still get
locked down to prevent transmission.
"I simply advocate that people unify by acknowledging "black"
and "white" identities to be fake"
But Western colonialism based on "white" identity was real. It
is an insult to ask the victims to unify with the colonizers
instead of eliminating them.
"Absentmindedly calling yourself "white" because that's just
what everyone else absentmindedly calls you, does not make you
evil."
Yes it does. But thank you for exposing your lack of moral
sensitivity.
"Why is this such a big deal?"
The big deal is whether or not they voluntarily refrain from
reproducing.
""blacks" have their electronics made in sweatshops just as much
as "whites" do."
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronics#History_and_development
[quote]Electronics has hugely influenced the development of
modern society. The identification of the electron in 1897,
along with the subsequent invention of the vacuum tube which
could amplify and rectify small electrical signals, inaugurated
the field of electronics and the electron age.[2] Practical
applications started with the invention of the diode by Ambrose
Fleming and the triode by Lee De Forest in the early 1900s,
which made the detection of small electrical voltages such as
radio signals from a radio antenna possible with a
non-mechanical device.[/quote]
"I can't imagine what it must be like being a cow on the way to
the slaughterhouse"
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dietary-decolonization/msg5060/#msg5060
The cow would know which one gene pool would be the best one to
eliminate back in the 10th century to reduce violence towards
cows by the largest margin several centuries later:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensive_animal_farming#History
[quote]Intensive animal farming is a relatively recent
development in the history of agriculture, and the result of
scientific discoveries and technological advances. Innovations
from the late 19th century generally parallel developments in
mass production in other industries in the latter part of the
Industrial Revolution.[/quote]
"If I were so "illiterate", how are we having this debate?"
I'm having to dumb everything down for you (see below).
"you are the one saying that anyone who can be considered
"white" (beige skinned Euros)"
Quote precisely where I say that "beige skinned Euros" are the
only ones who can be considered "white".
"should leave an entire continent"
Quote precisely where I say they should leave.
"for being born with a certain skin color"
Quote precisely where I say anything about skin colour.
"We can all infer from simple reason that Technocratic genetic
exist in most groups, such as both Aryan and non-Aryan genetics
do."
Again, here is the graph:
[img width=1280
height=823]
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Precisely which circles should be erased in the 10th century to
prevent electronics/intensive animal ranching several centuries
later?
"What happened to "Rationalism, not Empiricism"? What happened
to "Why Race Matters and Why 'the Races' Don't"?"
You read them wrongly because you are illiterate, as those more
literate than you have noted:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/t1853/msg19150/#msg19150
[quote]90sRetroFan’s politics have stayed basically exactly the
same over the years.[/quote]
You are so illiterate you have obliviously been misusing the
term "technocrat" to mean "machinist" the whole time. From the
main site:
[quote]A technocracy is any society whose functionality has
become dependent on the operationality of some system of
specialist technology. In such a society, power belongs no
longer solely to the state, but also to the class of technical
experts on whom the society depends to keep this system of
technology operational, because the state can now no longer
eliminate the experts without consequently sending society as a
whole into chaos. Thus the experts not only acquire a degree of
immunity from state punishment not possessed by everyone else,
but they can also – if they organize as a bloc – exert pressure
on the state to enact their demands by threatening to cease
maintaining the technology otherwise.[/quote]
[quote]machinery (derived from root “magh-” meaning “to have
power”), motivated by the will to power.
...
non-Aryan technologists will be known as ”machinists” and the
term “machines” reserved exclusively and perjoratively for their
products.[/quote]
Someone who does not even know the difference between a
technocrat and a machinist is claiming to know Aryanism better
than I do.
"Yes people should understand the historical context they live
in, and the evils their ancestors did; but the solution is not
to continue their wars. Right the wrongs, move forward against
the parasites, forge a new noble cultural Mythos that unites us
all into a folk."
How is "uniting us all" holding anyone accountable? You sound
like Biden after the Red coup! Accountability means eliminating
bloodlines.
"not if you consider hormones!"
What should we think about those who prioritize hormones over
ethics?
"treating everyone who absentmindedly calls themselves "white"
like they're these uber-racists will only, ironically, reinforce
racism."
Which reveals who they were inside all along. Which is what I am
trying to do.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: antihellenistic Date: May 3, 2023, 11:37 pm
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[quote]
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/t1853/msg19157/#msg19157[/quote]
The problem is you not want to consider that spreading ideas
about negative connotations of "white" identities is the way to
end discrimination.
[quote]>seeing banking activity firstly come from "whites" and
Jews you know. See this post on this forum
"Non-white" bankers don't exist? YHWH exists in every ethnic
group.[/quote]
In fact word "YHWH" came from Jews who are supported "white" by
race. Have you ever know the Curse of Ham story? We must destroy
the sources of banking activity first before destroy the rest of
it which already done by "non-whites". Usually, the "non-whites"
who support this activity are Eurocentric by nature and support
westernization and their "white" master. So defeat the "whites"
first is our priority
[quote]>As long as there are no people with "white" and Judaic
behavior, you'll be fine, if one or some of the members do that,
they got punishment. I'm sure most of the people who do that
will come from a European background, even though not all of
them.
That's what I'm saying, having beige skin alone shouldn't be a
deal breaker.[/quote]
If you know that we against "whiteness" and the "colored people"
who defend it, why do you keep debating us, when you can work
like me to defeat the enemies through debate and real activity?
You want to defend "white people"? And I never talk that "white"
mean skin color. But you must accept that most of people with
"white behaviour" are the people who are intelligent by
academics and intellectual, so don't angry when we make
arguments against the Europeans and the "East Asians"
[quote]Try telling your average "black" to stop being "black",
and watch what happens. We're at the point where they are
addicted to their identity politics just as much (if not
honestly more) than your average "white".[/quote]
"Blacks" means victims of "whites", and "whites" means
anti-"non-white" and support Western Civilization, don't equate
the both words each other. "whites" evil and inferior.
[quote]>They are the ones who will voluntarily refrain from
reproduction without me even needing to ask them to.
You are again ignoring the point, which is that good people with
beige skin exist. The fact that I have to explain such a basic
principle to you is sad.[/quote]
Good "beige skin people" who still attracted and preserve word
"whites" must refrain from reproducing
[quote]>More like transcend accountability.
Not at all. I simply advocate that people unify by acknowledging
"black" and "white" identities to be fake, and find a common
experience in building a Solar Civilization (such as
establishing Autarky to not oppress the "blacks" who are
literally enslaved; such as the eight year olds working in
Lithium mines in Africa)[/quote]
No, we want people who tend to call themselves "white" to be
totally got beaten and annihilated first to show solidarity with
their victim, before we create Solar Civilization. If we behave
like you, we will not doing total justice and the "whites" will
not seriously take accountability for what they do today with
neo-colonialism and their ancestors in the past with their
activity of colonialism. Don't drag us to abandon retributive
action to "whites" or we will annihilate you too
[quote]>Asking the victims to find unity with their oppressors
is an insult to the victims.
Yes, racism against "blacks" and "whites" exist and should be
addressed, but for this argument does not apply to the vast
majority of people anymore. Let me tell you something: "blacks"
have their electronics made in sweatshops just as much as
"whites" do. They eat meat just as "whites" do, they buy into
Consumerism as "whites" do, and so forth.
I can't imagine what it must be like being a cow on the way to
the slaughterhouse, or a twelve year old in an Indian sweatshop,
hearing about privileged Westerners benefiting off their slavery
and suffering, accuse each other of oppressing them, and how
"blacks" or "whites" are "the real victims" LOL[/quote]
"whites" got anti-racist counterattack, not racist treatment,
don't play word with me. "blacks" have their electronics made in
sweatshops on the land where they ever got oppressed and
enslaved by "whites". "Whites" have their electronics made in
sweatshops on their own land which was gained from colonialism,
segregation, slavery, and today's neo-colonialism. So, "whites"
are still guilty today with their government's neo-colonial
policy which you always ignore
[quote]We can all infer from simple reason that ignoble genetic
diseases, such as Technocratic genetics, exist in most groups.
Both Aryan and non-Aryan genetics do in general, do they
not?[/quote]
Technocratic genetics mostly and qualitatively came from
Europeans, therefore is not wrong if we attack brutally the
Europeans first, or so-called "whites". Hitler even attacked
mostly to Europe you know, and support Japanese attack on
"America" and "Australia"
[quote]>So should individuals with "white" parents (whether or
not they call themselves "white") who decide to reproduce be
held accountable for this decision?
Yes people should understand the historical context they live
in, and the evils their ancestors did; but the solution is not
to continue their wars. Right the wrongs, move forward against
the parasites, forge a new noble cultural Mythos that unites us
all into a folk.[/quote]
As long as the today's "whites" not feel to take accountability
for what their ancestors did in the past, they remain guilty
enough. The victim's offsprings still able to suffer
intergenerational trauma because of their ancestor's brutal
experience in the past because of "white" colonialism. Seems
your view on history with contextualism similar on how the
communist see history.
[quote]From a dialectical point of view all the "opposites" are
one-sided and inadequate, including the contradiction between
"truth and error". Marxism does not accept the existence of
"Eternal Truth". All "truth" and "wrong" is relative. What is
right at one time and context is wrong at another: right and
wrong cross one another.[/quote]
HTML https://www.marxist.com/apa-itu-marxisme-bagian-pertama-materialisme-dialektis.htm
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Ascesis Date: May 4, 2023, 9:17 am
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>People cannot "become" more racist. This is equivalent to the
False Left saying: people are not born racist, they are taught
to be that way.
Because they kind of are. Racism isn't 100% genetic, nor is it
100% environmental. Fun fact, many Aryanists are ex-Wignats. But
imagine if every Wignat second guessing their beliefs was drawn
to Aryanism, only to be turned off from you guys more or less
talk about how being born with beige skin means you need to be
forcibly genocided, if not "peacefully" so.
I understand why misanthropy is tempting, but if you're going to
involve yourself in politics you need to have more faith in
people. I am not saying we should tiptoe around Tribalists, or
that we should avoid offending them. I am saying we shouldn't
play into their Goddamn propaganda.
>After reading the Ascesis website, especially the section about
"outgrowing" Fuhrerprinzip, I am 100% sure Ascesis is Anthony
from Aryanism.net.
I actually take that as a compliment, thanks bro. But for the
record, I think you're mixing up these two articles:
HTML http://ascesis.a0001.net/updates/outgrowth/
HTML http://ascesis.a0001.net/updates/leadership/
"Outgrowth" is about how to handle outgrowing your role models,
and "Leadership" is about how absolute ownership comes before
absolute authority (which should be earned through respect and
competence, not mere rank).
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Ascesis Date: May 4, 2023, 10:48 am
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This debate has turned into 90sRetroFan attacking my wording
rather than my arguments he cannot refute, and shallow insults
to try to derail from this fact. So from now on I will largely
just be repeating my refutations until he stops dodging the
question.
Thank you for the excellent propaganda material idiot. I find it
hilarious that you have not realized how stupid you are making
yourself look to your own people.
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>Do Rows 4 and 5 cluster with Row 1 or with Rows 6, 7, 8 and 9?
Get this through your head: I don't care what your Wignat
empirical study says. A Chinese inventor has more in common with
a "white" inventor, than either of them do with a Chinese or
"white" farmer. Anyone with casual knowledge of history that
Arabs & Chinese have often been both very warlike and
technologically innovative. So again I will ask, are we going to
tell them to self-genocide as well?
>Uninfected people exist at the outbreak location. They still
get locked down to prevent transmission.
Should "non-whites" not be quarantined because they're not
"white" and therefore supposedly immune to disease? Do you think
"non-whites" aren't genetically polluted? They never have, and
currently don't, do anything nauseatingly cruel?
>But Western colonialism based on "white" identity was real. It
is an insult to ask the victims to unify with the colonizers
instead of eliminating them.
Your average "white" is not oppressing your average "black", in
fact at this point they're both getting screwed by society. Stop
dodging the question:
"Yes, racism against 'blacks' and 'whites' exist and should be
addressed, but for this argument does not apply to the vast
majority of people anymore. Let me tell you something: 'blacks'
have their electronics made in sweatshops just as much as
'whites' do. They eat meat just as 'whites' do, they buy into
Consumerism as 'whites' do, and so forth.
I can't imagine what it must be like being a cow on the way to
the slaughterhouse, or a twelve year old in an Indian sweatshop,
hearing about privileged Westerners benefiting off their slavery
and suffering, accuse each other of oppressing them, and how
'blacks' or 'whites' are 'the real victims' LOL"
>Yes it does. But thank you for exposing your lack of moral
sensitivity.
So by unconsciously calling oneself "white", one is consciously
making the extreme declaration that "non-whites" should be
enslaved? Cool paradox bro. You are projecting. Yes, it is bad
that people call themselves "white" and "black", but you are
retarded if you are going to treat them as if that means they
want slavery back.
>The cow would know which one gene pool would be the best one to
eliminate back in the 10th century to reduce violence towards
cows by the largest margin several centuries later:
Yes, the carnist gene pool. You are delusional if you ignore how
many "white" people are Vegan.
>I'm having to dumb everything down for you (see below).
uhh... no. If I were so "illiterate", how are we having this
debate? Wouldn't "illiteracy" in a Western language be good?
Paraphrasing is not even equivalent to an inability to read. Are
YOU illiterate?
>Quote precisely where I say anything about people being "born
with beige skin"....
I never claimed you have said "born with beige skin" verbatim. I
speak of "born with beige skin" because you are the one saying
that anyone who can be considered "white" (which to 99% of the
world means beige skinned Euros) should leave an entire
continent for being born with a certain skin color, and that you
are the one thereby not treating people as individuals, and thus
reinforcing tribalism. Are you going to stay on task, or keep on
dodging the question?
>Quote precisely where I say they should leave.
Telling an entire demographic to self-genocide via anti-Natalism
(or presumably be killed/expelled for not doing so), is
functionally the same as making them leave. Jew.
>Again, here is the graph
Your precious graph isn't going to erase the self-evident truth
that technocratic genes exist in virtually every gene pool. If
you find out that pèdophiles are present in various events one
day, do you bomb every wedding, farmer's market, funeral, and
block party in the town or do you just arrest the pèdophiles?
"What happened to "Rationalism, not Empiricism"? What happened
to "Why Race Matters and Why 'the Races' Don't"?"
>You read them wrongly
How so?
I brought all of this up because it doesn't seem like you to
base your worldview off of Wignat Empiricism, and dividing
people according to identity politics, rather than the noble and
ignoble people who exist across all lines. This is the complete
opposite of Aryanism.
>As those more literate than you have noted... 90sRetroFan’s
politics have stayed basically exactly the same over the years.
I have already disproven this here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/t1853/msg19155/#msg19155
>You are so illiterate you have obliviously been misusing the
term "technocrat" to mean "machinist" the whole time.
WOAH looks like you've been "misusing" it too, you illiterate
fúck!
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/intentional-community/msg2490/#msg2490
For context, I am using the word "technocrat" as someone who has
read several books by Ted Kaczynski who refers to technocrats
as, well, technocrats. An amazing feat, if you ask me, for an
"illiterate" such as myself. But hey, it truly is a shame that
everyone's definition of a word isn't congruent to your personal
definition that you don't even abide by yourself.
>claiming to know Aryanism better than I do.
Did I? Because all I asked was what happened to your opinion
about the "Empiricism vs. Rationalism" and "Why Race Matters and
Why the 'Races' Don't" articles. You're not projecting are you?
Because when you are so desperate that you have to anally fixate
on twisting my words, I can't help but think that you are.
>How is "uniting us all" holding anyone accountable?
I want the slaves to unite against the slave masters trying to
pit them against each other. You are in a pissing match with
other racists saying one side of the slaves get less goy
biscuits than the other.
>What should we think about those who prioritize hormones over
ethics?
That such Natalists are ignoble, regardless if they are "black"
or "white".
>Which reveals who they were inside all along. Which is what I
am trying to do.
Not really, it just reveals that people make Pavlovian
associations. You can easily produce less racists by calmly
informing people that being "white" is a choice, and honestly
most (young) people will enthusiastically agree, especially if
we provide them a new and better Mythos to replace the
identitiarianism. So again, why is this such a big deal?
You want to epigenetically activate racist ignoble genes. I want
to epigenetically activate the folkic noble ones. Have fun.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Ascesis Date: May 4, 2023, 11:06 am
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>The problem is you not want to consider that spreading ideas
about negative connotations of "white" identities is the way to
end discrimination.
I do, actually. I simply believe in letting people know that the
option to not be "white" exists to begin with. Call them
degenerate all you want, but to most "blacks" and "whites",
their color identity is not that deep, so treating them like
they think it is is delusional.
>In fact word "YHWH" came from Jews who are supported "white" by
ra
You are ignoring the point that tribalism and spiritual Jewry
exists within every ethnic group. I was saying this in response
to 90sRF saying there will be no more racism after purging a
broad and loosely defined ethnic group.
>As long as there are no people with "white" and Judaic
behavior, you'll be fine, if one or some of the members do that,
they got punishment. I'm sure most of the people who do that
will come from a European background, even though not all of
them.
That's what I'm saying, having beige skin alone shouldn't be a
deal breaker.[/quote]
>If you know that we against "whiteness" and the "colored
people" who defend it, why do you keep debating us,
Read the above.
>And I never talk that "white" mean skin color.
I know. You don't, and I think most the people on this forum
don't as well. 90sRF, however, does. Which is why I am debating
him.
>so don't angry when we make arguments against the Europeans and
the "East Asians"
Not at all actually, I support this consistency. I'm actually
arguing with 90sRF right now to get him to acknowledge this.
>"Blacks" means victims of "whites", and "whites" means
anti-"non-white" and support Western Civilization, don't equate
the both words each other. "whites" evil and inferior.
A slave identity is a slave identity, I don't care if brown
Westerners living off of sweatshops and slaughterhouses they
think they're the real victims. What your saying may very well
have applied back during Jim Crow, but nowadays your average
"blacks" and "whites" are both being screwed by the same people.
Not at all. I simply advocate that people unify by acknowledging
"black" and "white" identities to be fake, and find a common
experience in building a Solar Civilization (such as
establishing Autarky to not oppress the "blacks" who are
literally enslaved; such as the eight year olds working in
Lithium mines in Africa)[/quote]
>we want people who tend to call themselves "white" to be
totally got beaten and annihilated
Including those who would be our allies if someone simply told
them what being "white" really means?
>So, "whites" are still guilty today with their government's
neo-colonial policy which you always ignore
So is everyone living in the West, regardless of skin color.
>As long as the today's "whites" not feel to take accountability
for what their ancestors did in the past, they remain guilty
enough. The victim's offsprings still able to suffer
intergenerational trauma because of their ancestor's brutal
experience in the past because of "white" colonialism.
I support people recognizing the evils of the past, just not in
a way that perpetuates the evil.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: antihellenistic Date: May 4, 2023, 2:24 pm
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[quote]I do, actually. I simply believe in letting people know
that the option to not be "white" exists to begin with. Call
them degenerate all you want, but to most "blacks" and "whites",
their color identity is not that deep, so treating them like
they think it is is delusional[/quote]
We already give people an option not to be "white", just
acknowledge the crimes of "whites" and take accountability for
it. If you not consider deep the "black" and "white" identity,
go to African American National History Museum to remove
whitewashing propaganda from your brain. Or ask Christian Bethel
[quote]You are ignoring the point that tribalism and spiritual
Jewry exists within every ethnic group.[/quote]
Even I condemn "Arabs" and "Chinese" who ever behave "whiteness"
to on previous post to answer your argument.
[quote]I was saying this in response to 90sRF saying there will
be no more racism after purging a broad and loosely defined
ethnic group.[/quote]
We purging "whiteness", which its meaning is glorifying one
ruthless ethnic group who are ever oppressing the entire world
and even made their subject also agreed with their "whiteness"
(See Eurocentrism). So, if we purge "whiteness" we end
Eurocentrism, racism will totally got blown. The problem is you
consider "white" is just an ethnic term.
[quote]That's what I'm saying, having beige skin alone shouldn't
be a deal breaker.[/quote]
But you have a problem when we ruthlessly attack "whites". You
are our obstacle.
[quote]Read the above.[/quote]
Yes, the conclusion is, you seems want to release "whites" for
their obligation to take accountability
[quote]>And I never talk that "white" mean skin color.
I know. You don't, and I think most the people on this forum
don't as well. 90sRF, however, does. Which is why I am debating
him.[/quote]
90sRetroFan talk that "whites" is identitarian, political,
sociological, and philosophical term. Read most of our post on
this forum, or just some of it. Don't make false claim.
[quote]>so don't angry when we make arguments against the
Europeans and the "East Asians"
Not at all actually, I support this consistency. I'm actually
arguing with 90sRF right now to get him to acknowledge
this.[/quote]
No, 90sRetroFan discussing "whites" as a behaviour, ideological
worldview, and genetics. He already explained it to you, but you
still accuse him for associate "whites" with just about skin
color
[quote]A slave identity is a slave identity,[/quote]
This is your problem, not want to acknowledge that there's
identity of enslaver "whites" which resulting slavery identity
like "blacks" term for example, we must hate and remove "whites"
for power to make "blacks" slave identities got total
retribution and then slave identities become identity of the
victor
[quote]>we want people who tend to call themselves "white" to be
totally got beaten and annihilated
Including those who would be our allies if someone simply told
them what being "white" really means?[/quote]
If the "whites" are people like you and they call themselves as
an "ally", their place is concentration camp
[quote]>So, "whites" are still guilty today with their
government's neo-colonial policy which you always ignore
So is everyone living in the West, regardless of skin
color.[/quote]
Everyone who are living in the West without any struggle to
defeat their neo-colonial government are allying with it, same
like the "whites". Because their neo-colonial government exploit
the former colonized people constantly today
[quote]I support people recognizing the evils of the past, just
not in a way that perpetuates the evil.[/quote]
If you not want perpetuates the evil, kill "whiteness" on every
people's mind
[quote]This argument has turned into 90sRetroFan overfocusing on
my semantics to ignore points he cannot refute, and shallow
insults to try to derail from this fact. So from now on I will
largely just be repeating my refutations until he stops dodging
the question.[/quote]
He already refute you with his logic which you until now not
want to answer it. And with also questioning your logic. But of
course you not want to acknowledge this
[quote]Thank you for the excellent propaganda material idiot. I
find it hilarious that you have not realized how stupid you are
making yourself look to your own people.
[/quote]
Thanks for showing yourself to us that you not take "white"
problem seriously. You are our enemy
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Ascesis Date: May 4, 2023, 2:49 pm
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>We already give people an option not to be "white", just
acknowledge the crimes of "whites" and take accountability for
it.
Not if you're like 90sRF, and you think people who casually call
themselves "white" should be persecuted for never knowing that
being "white" is an option
>If you not consider deep the "black" and "white" identity,
I do. I am saying most people don't.
>Even I condemn "Arabs" and "Chinese" who ever behave
"whiteness" to on previous post to answer your argument.
Can you condemn them are being ignoble in a manner that has
nothing to do with "whiteness"?
>We purging "whiteness", which its meaning is glorifying one
ruthless ethnic group who are ever oppressing the entire world
Bonus, these kinds of people exist in every ethnic group.
>But you have a problem when we ruthlessly attack "whites". You
are our obstacle.
"Whites" as in racist Westerners, or people with beige skin who
absentmindedly call themselves "white" as an apolitical
descriptor?
>90sRetroFan discussing "whites" as a behaviour, ideological
worldview, and genetics.
He clearly is not, have you read our argument at all?
>Everyone who are living in the West without any struggle to
defeat their neo-colonial government are allying with it, same
like the "whites". Because their neo-colonial government exploit
the former colonized people constantly today
Agreed
>If you not want perpetuates the evil, kill "whiteness" on every
people's mind
Agreed, but doing so means NOT persecuting them as if everyone
who unconsciously calls themselves "white", are supposedly
somehow also consciously saying that they want the rest of
humanity enslaved to "whites".
>He already refute you with his logic which you until now not
want to answer it.
He literally has not. All he is doing is attacking my wording
rather than the main point behind my argument. There is a reason
why he stopped responding to certain arguments completely.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 4, 2023, 4:47 pm
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"A Chinese inventor has more in common with a "white" inventor"
If China were the only country in the world, there would have
been no Renaissance, no Industrial Revolution, no space travel,
no AI, etc..
"Should "non-whites" not be quarantined because they're not
"white" and therefore supposedly immune to disease? Do you think
"non-whites" aren't genetically polluted? They never have, and
currently don't, do anything nauseatingly cruel?"
We deal with the most dangerous diseases first.
"Your average "white" is not oppressing your average "black""
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etc.
"So by unconsciously calling oneself "white", one is consciously
making the extreme declaration that "non-whites" should be
enslaved?"
Not if one is voluntarily refraining from reproducing at the
same time:
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[quote]there exist some sincere anti-racists who mistakenly
think they have a social duty to identify as "white" in order to
"acknowledge their privilege". Those who identify as "white" for
this reason are not to be prematurely assumed to be "white" on
account of their self-identification alone.
The most reliable way to tell whether or not apparent
anti-racists who say they are "white" are actually "white", as
always, is whether or not they voluntarily refrain from
reproducing.[/quote]
"Yes, the carnist gene pool."
Again, here is the graph:
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Precisely which circles should be erased in the 10th century to
prevent intensive animal ranching several centuries later?
"You are delusional if you ignore how many "white" people are
Vegan."
You still don't get it, do you? "White" history has been a
history of "whites" creating a new problem (in this case
intensive animal ranching) that no one else would have created,
and then yes, some among them opposing it after it has already
been created. My aim is to prevent the next problems from being
created.
With "whites" gone, we can at least try to solve the problems
accumulated so far without having new problems (in all
likelihood bigger ones) constantly being added on top of the
existing problems. With "whites" continuing to exist, we will
always be in a position where new, bigger problems are being
created faster than existing problems can be solved. Thus the
world will keep getting worse. Your argument, that some "whites"
at each point in time sincerely want to solve existing problems
at that point in time, does not change this larger-scale
dynamic.
Are we here to seek radical solutions, or to let a fraction of
"whites" virtue-signal about piecemeal-opposing problems that
would not even have existed in the first place if "whites" did
not exist?
My message to "white" vegans is simple: thank you for being
vegan; now do not reproduce.
"to 99% of the world"
You are not talking to 99% of the world. You are talking to me.
"you are the one thereby not treating people as individuals"
If an individual with "white" parents, knowing colonial-era
history, nevertheless individually makes the decision to
reproduce, this tells me something about what kind of individual
they are, and hence how that individual should be treated as an
individual. Which part of this is me not treating people as
individuals?
"Jew."
Here is an actual Jew:
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Jews are "white" also, hence would be prohibited from
reproducing under my plan. Jews know this.
"Your precious graph isn't going to erase the self-evident truth
that technocratic genes exist in virtually every gene pool."
So why didn't every gene pool produce the Renaissance?
"If you find out that pèdophiles are present in various events
one day, do you bomb every wedding, farmer's market, funeral,
and block party in the town or do you just arrest the
pèdophiles?"
Neither. I do not initiate violence.
"How so?"
Because you think I have changed my views, when I haven't (as is
obvious to others who have already said so).
"dividing people according to identity politics"
Folkism is not identity politics:
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and that you fail to distinguish between them proves your
illiteracy.
"noble and ignoble people who exist across all lines."
There are (for example) no noble tribalists, so if the line is
drawn between tribalists and non-tribalists, noble people will
not be found existing across that line, thus your statement is
trivially falsified. That you claim that Aryanism claims that
noble and ignoble people exist across all lines proves your
illiteracy.
"WOAH looks like you've been "misusing" it too"
It looks that way to you because you are illiterate. In fact:
[quote]The more complex the machine, the larger the network of
global interdependence required to build or repair it.[/quote]
"I am using the word "technocrat" as someone who has read
several books by Ted Kaczynski who refers to technocrats as,
well, technocrats."
Fine. Stop pretending to represent Aryanism.
"the slave masters"
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"That such Natalists are ignoble, regardless if they are "black"
or "white"."
Have I ever claimed that "blacks" should reproduce perpetually?
"calmly informing people that being "white" is a choice"
I already do this. Specifically, to choose to not be "white" if
you have "white" parents, one condition is to voluntarily
refrain from reproducing.
"You want to epigenetically activate racist ignoble genes. I
want to epigenetically activate the folkic noble ones."
The more you succeed, the more the racist ignoble genes will fly
under the radar.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Ascesis Date: May 4, 2023, 9:13 pm
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>If China were the only country in the world, there would have
been no Renaissance, no Industrial Revolution, no space travel,
no AI, etc..
How about reality? They did have multiple eras of technological
innovation, they do have a space program, and they do industry,
they do have AI, et cetera.
>We deal with the most dangerous diseases first.
>etc.
These examples are not your average "white". If they were, the
world would look very different.
>Not if one is voluntarily refraining from reproducing at the
same time:
Answer the fúcking question. Would someone, by unconsciously
calling oneself "white", be also paradoxically be making a
conscious decision to declaration ensalve "non-whites"?
>The most reliable way to tell whether or not apparent
anti-racists who say they are "white" are actually "white", as
always, is whether or not they voluntarily refrain from
reproducing.[/quote]
We'd all prefer anti-racist "whites" pass on their genes than
racist "blacks", would we not?
"Yes, the carnist gene pool."
>Again, here is the graph:
I've already answered and dismissed this like three times. If
you're not going to respond to my answer because I didn't give
you the answer you want, then shut up.
>"White" history has been a history of "whites" creating a new
problem (in this case intensive animal ranching) that no one
else would have created, and then yes, some among them opposing
it after it has already been created.
Maybe the issue is with IGNOBLE PEOPLE, not people with a
certain SKIN COLOR.
>Your argument, that some "whites" at each point in time
sincerely want to solve existing problems at that point in time,
does not change this larger-scale dynamic.
This entire argument can be expanded to include humans in
general.
>You are not talking to 99% of the world. You are talking to me.
The Brit is mad that everyone isn't speaking to him him the
niche definitions he made up? Now that's mighty "white" of you.
>If an individual with "white" parents, knowing colonial-era
history, nevertheless individually makes the decision to
reproduce, this tells me something about what kind of individual
they are, and hence how that individual should be treated as an
individual. Which part of this is me not treating people as
individuals?
This tells you they are just another crappy natalist. Literally
everyone, literally every ethnic group, that has ever lived is
related to people with an ignoble past.
>Here is an actual Jew:
I'm calling you a Jew for twisting my words because I won the
argument.
>So why didn't every gene pool produce the Renaissance?
Unique social conditions. You are lying to yourself if you
believe that genetics are the only role playing here, or that
other nations never produced their own renaissances.
>Neither. I do not initiate violence.
HAH. I had a feeling you'd defend pèdophiles, but didn't think
you actually would LOL
inb4 "wanting to fúck kids in your mind is not inherently
violent" I think you know what I meant by my analogy. If you
didn't, you obviously lack the emotional depth to have an honest
conversation.
>Because you think I have changed my views, when I haven't (as
is obvious to others who have already said so).
I mean even if you truly never have changed your views, that
means you have learned nothing over the years. That aside, how
do you address this then?
"It hasn't. He went from 'detached justice' to 'ooga booga
revenge go jerk off with your enemy's blood'. He went from 'we
are all individuals; the pan-Europeanism and pan-Africanism are
fake ideas' to 'wyppl bad because someone discovered Lithium in
1817'. This isn't AS honestly changing his mind, its a sign of
decay."
Grail, you there? I bet you don't want to be dragged into this,
but if you're cool with it let me know if you still think AS has
never changed his opinion after considering what I said.
>Folkism is not identity politics:
That is not what I said. You are illiterate. You are again
hyperfixating on my semantics to ignore the main question.
"I brought all of this up because it doesn't seem like you to
base your worldview off of Wignat Empiricism, and dividing
people according to identity politics, rather than the noble and
ignoble people who exist across all lines. This is the complete
opposite of Aryanism."
>There are (for example) no noble tribalists, so if the line is
drawn between tribalists and non-tribalists, noble people will
not be found existing across that line thus your statement is
trivially falsified.
Having beige skin does not make you a tribalist by default.
Absentmindedly calling yourself "white" does not either, but it
WOULD if someone continued doing so after learning what it
meant.
>That you claim that Aryanism claims that noble and ignoble
people exist across all lines proves your illiteracy.
By "all lines" I mean "all ethnicities". Its not my fault that
you can't pick up on social cues. I normally wouldn't mind, but
this time I do consider how you apparently hold compassion at
the center of your worldview, and how you are again pretending
to not understand an argument you cannot refute.
>It looks that way to you because
So you're allowed to refer to "technocracy" in relation to
technology, but not I? Great
>Fine. Stop pretending to represent Aryanism.
You made the same "error" as I. I'll quit when you do.
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>Have I ever claimed that "blacks" should reproduce perpetually?
Are you applying a double standard to people with beige skin,
but not to people with brown skin?
>I already do this.
No, you do not. You expressly state that everyone who calls
themselves "white" wants slavery back. I am saying most people
who do so, do not want slavery back.
>The more you succeed, the more the racist ignoble genes will
fly under the radar.
Making noble genetics sociopolitically dominate society will
root out ignoble genes MUCH more than allowing ignoble genes
dominate. So why not just let nature run its course? Quit trying
to bring out the good in people, let humanity commit even more
horrors. At least then you'll finally convince yourself that you
should tell people online that humanity sucks and should just be
nuked.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: guest93 Date: May 4, 2023, 9:25 pm
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I'm just here to watch 90sRF win every argument and agree with
everything he says even though I have beige skin and was a
Nordicist for 2 weeks before finding the main site
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