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Re: Why You All Suck
By: FRG_03 Date: May 3, 2023, 11:58 am
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All this because you refuse to accept that identifying as white
is inherently racist. If 99% of light-skinned people identify as
"white" we shouldn't feel sympathy for them just because it's
common. We shouldn't tolerate passive racism from raceless
people, we will accept them when they stop being racist and stop
breeding (WHICH IS VIOLENT ANYWAY).
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: 2ThaSun Date: May 3, 2023, 12:37 pm
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"Hi flake. Did you not read the FAQ? Its posted in this thread:"
[quote]What does flake mean slang?
an eccentric person
Slang. an eccentric person; screwball: My sister's new boyfriend
is a real flake—I can't imagine why she goes out with
him.[/quote]
HTML https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=flake
How am I a flake exactly just because I'm not interested in
reading your site?
"...but holy śhit does it speak volumes that you guys seem
to love critiquing Ascesis without actually reading its
material."
As far as I can tell no one here has critiqued Ascesis because
they probably will not read your site either, all they have
critiqued is what you have said here on this forum. Furthermore,
considering what you have already said here on this forum, not
wasting their time reading your site was probably a good call on
their behalf.
"Looks like we actually agree then! My whole point is that
treating the children of ignoble people like they're already
evil, is going to make them actually evil."
Please show where exactly any Aryanists have recommended
treating children of ignoble [s]people[/s] ADULTS as if they are
evil? My guess is you will not be able to do it...
You could start your search in that regard here I would imagine:
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#Post#: 19168--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why You All Suck
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 3, 2023, 4:43 pm
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"Even if you don't celebrate ethnic diversity, your politics
have the same effect as those who do."
That is the fault of those reading (poorly), not my fault.
"If by "white" you mean "racist technocratic Westerner", I would
agree. But if by "white", you mean "ethnic European with beige
skin" then you yourself are failing Aryanism 101. Good and bad
genes exist everywhere, being what most people would call
"white" doesn't mean you have ignoble genes by default."
Now you sound like pandemic anti-lockdowners. Yes, uninfected
people found in the vicinity of infected people are locked down
along with the infected people. The point is to prevent
transmission. A civically dutiful uninfected person would be
happy to be locked down along with the infected people for the
sake of achieving a surer lockdown of the infected people. Of
course you are not civically dutiful.
Speaking of which:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/white-people-least-likely-to-wear-masks-consistently-study-finds-231848231.html
"Virtually everyone with "white" parents consider themselves
"white". You come along, and say they should die because you
assume that means they want slavery back."
I say they should voluntarily refrain from reproducing. Those
who consider themselves "white" and who intend to reproduce are
those who should die before they actually reproduce.
"I already answered your question, just not the way you wanted
me to:"
Answer by referring to X, Y and Z explicitly. Here it is again:
[quote]Z did not steal from Y. Z was given the stolen item by X,
who stole it from Y. Should Z give back the item to Y?
If Z in response complains about having to take responsibility
for something they didn't do, what does that tell us about
Z?[/quote]
"Then what does "return land to the Natives" mean, exactly?"
Quote precisely where I use the phrase "return land to the
Natives". If you cannot, you prove your illiteracy.
"Telling a massive ethnic demographic that they need to all
voluntarily refuse to reproduce is functionally the same as
expelling them."
If you see them as individuals (as I do), it is very different.
Or maybe you don't see them as individuals after all?
"you were ambiguously implying that you want to "return land to
the Natives" by both expulsion"
Quote precisely where I mention "expulsion". If you cannot, you
prove your illiteracy.
"your average 'white' isn't in a gang."
"Whiteness" satisfies all the characteristics associated with a
gang. Study colonial-era history and present-day racism to
understand how.
"So that's your solution? Continuous, endless gang/tribal
warfare?"
If I wanted endless war, I would be deliberately trying to keep
"white" bloodlines in existence so that there would always be a
gang/tribe to fight against. That sounds more like what you are
trying to do, since you oppose my aim of eliminating "white"
bloodlines.
""(Lithium/Electronic was invented)...By the people who invented
them."
I will make it simple for you. If we travel back in time to the
10th century and want to prevent the discovery of
lithium/invention of electronics in the 19th/20th centuries,
which one geographic gene pool do we eliminate?
"It won't. Look at the Chinese, South Koreans, Japanese, Gulf
Arab states, and literally any "non-white" country with any
measure of industrialism."
Which gene pool brought the Industrial Revolution?
"Is the issue with "whites", or technocrats?"
Again, I will make it simple for you. If we travel back in time
to the 10th century and want to prevent the Renaissance in the
15th century, which one geographic gene pool do we eliminate?
"most the anti-tech movement is comprised mostly of people who
you would call "white"."
Maybe in the distant future after civilization has already
become intergalactic (due to space travel started by 20th
century "whites") we will also see an anti-space-travel movement
comprised mostly of "whites". You would then interpret that as
affirmation that it was correct to allow "whites" to keep
reproducing, even though all it would have taken for space
travel to never have been started in the first place was for
"whites" to have been prohibited from reproducing a few
centuries earlier.
(By the way, there are also anti-Israel Jews, who also never
bring up the point (obvious to everyone else) that Jewish
identity (including Jewish reproduction) is what led to Israel
in the first place.)
"No dude this shows how most "sheep", "lemming", "cattle",
raceless people in general are."
In other words, I'm the one treating people as individuals who
should be held accountable for decisions they themselves make,
and you're the one treating them as "sheep" etc. who should not
be held accountable for decisions they themselves make.
"we have already established years ago that the "common man"
reacts to things poorly."
Which in my eyes reflects on them as individuals, but in your
eyes does not.
"But are we going to misanthropically whine about how bad that
is, or make the best of it?"
No accountability is your idea of "making the best of it"?
"my point still stands that the Han Chinese have been both
historically violent and technologically innovative for
millennia."
[img]
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Does Row 5 cluster with Row 1 or with Row 4, 6, 7, 8 and 9?
Are you innumerate also?
"So your reaction is to pit one end of the identitiarianism
against the other?"
Folkism is not identitarianism. Folkism is what I promote:
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[quote]It seems our enemies are too primitive to wrap their
heads around this idea: that anti-racism is not about benefiting
one's own ethnic group. Indeed, we would even be willing to a
take a hit to our own ethnic group for the sake of anti-racism.
For example, if there was currently two "white" (including
Jewish) nominees and one "AAPI" nominee and we could change it
to three "black" nominees, we would do so without hesitation. Or
if there were currently two "white" (including Jewish) nominees
and one "black" nominee and we could change it to three "AAPI"
nominees, we would do that too. This is what true anti-racist
solidarity looks like. Nothing in anti-racism is about
self-interest. Everything in anti-racism is about doing whatever
it takes to destroy the enemy, including hurting our own ethnic
group if necessary.[/quote]
But you are illiterate.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Ascesis Date: May 3, 2023, 6:03 pm
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>identifying as white is inherently racist. If 99% of
light-skinned people identify as "white" we shouldn't feel
sympathy for them just because it's common.
I actually agree. Where I don't, however, is with the notion
that everyone who just casually considers themselves "white"
does so as if they consciously want to enslave the world.
Treating them like they do will only produce either self-hating
"whites" who serve to kiss up to "non-white" racists, or just
more arrogant "white" racists. Either way, we haven't
transcended the shiddy slave identities Humanity is plagued
with. It's not like "blackness" isn't any less of a fake slave
identity than "whiteness" is, anyway.
>We shouldn't tolerate passive racism from raceless people, we
will accept them when they stop being racist and stop breeding
(WHICH IS VIOLENT ANYWAY).
Right on brother. But the way to do this is to first let people
know that the option to not be "white" (and "black"!) exists to
begin with.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Ascesis Date: May 3, 2023, 6:16 pm
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>How am I a flake
Did you forget to post under your other account? I called you
"flake" because I had a feeling it was you. I'm not surprised
you don't get it.
>exactly just because I'm not interested in reading your site?
I actually don't mind. What I do mind, however, are idiots like
you trying to critique it without spending three seconds to read
it.
>As far as I can tell no one here has critiqued Ascesis because
they probably will not read your site either,
Clearly you have not read all the posts on this thread arguing
over Ascesis, made by people who also have not read the site.
Looks like you all have an issue with reading — what fun! And if
no one's going to read it, then what do you have to worry about?
Why is it that you're so decided that you don't like Ascesis
without reading it?
>Please show where exactly any Aryanists have recommended
treating children of ignoble [s]people[/s] [b]ADULTS as if they
are evil?[/b]
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/t1853/msg19151/#msg19151
Since I know you're not going to read it, I'll summarize:
90sRetroFan believes that the (great-great-great+) grandchildren
of "white" colonizers should be attacked for casually
considering themselves as "white".
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: antihellenistic Date: May 3, 2023, 6:31 pm
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[quote]Virtually everyone with "white" parents consider
themselves "white". You come along, and say they should die
because you assume that means they want slavery back. Reread my
quote from above.[/quote]
"White" doesn't only mean glorifying slavery. But this
characteristics :
HTML https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2021/12/07/guillaume-durochers-the-ancient-ethnostate-biopolitical-thought-in-ancient-greece/
[quote]As Ricardo Duchesne notes, the Indo-European legacy is
key to understanding the restless, aggressive, questing,
innovative, “Faustian” soul of Europe. Indo-Europeans were a
“uniquely aristocratic people dominated by emerging chieftains
for whom fighting to gain prestige was the all-pervading ethos.
This culture [is] interpreted as ‘the Western state of nature’
and as the primordial source of Western
restlessness.”[3][/quote]
Resulting :
1. Pro-democracy
2. Pro-capitalist
3. Pro-progressivism
4. Pro-Judaism
5. Pro-Empiricism
6. Pro-Complexity
7. Pro-competition
8. Pro-Stoicism
9. Pro-Industrialism
10. Pro-communism
12. Pro-Relativism
13. Pro-Naturalism
Anyone who still embrace and do that ethos and way of life can
be considered as "white" and should be punished.
[quote]>You think if all "whites" (including Jews) had been
removed from existence prior to the Renaissance, the world by
now would still have AI/space travel/etc., or even any of the
following?
Is the issue with "whites", or technocrats? Again, this argument
falls flat when you consider how most the anti-tech movement is
comprised mostly of people who you would call "white".[/quote]
The issue is the people who tend to praise intelligence and are
naturally able to do industrialism and tech. So, the "Whites"
and their "East Asian" counterpart are the people who to blame.
"East Asian" like South Koreans, Chinese, and Japans tend to
follow their former "white" master to live with technological
and industrial innovations without feeling enough and then
stopping it. Anti-tech movements begin from people who always
cannot do the tech way of life properly or are even incapable to
do it all the time, that is people from so-called "Third World"
nations. Not "whites". I doubt that "whites" doing seriously
anti-tech movements properly, seeing they like progress and
innovations. Seems you ignoring racial biodiversity scientific
facts.
[quote]all this tells us is that people don't want to take
responsibility for something they didn't do.[/quote]
If they already got educated that they must take responsibility
for what their ancestors already did in the past, and it was
true, but they do not want to agree with it, there's new
technological innovation named concentration camp.
[quote] you will only worsen race relations for just
trying."[/quote]
We do not want to make good relations with Jews and "whites". We
betray our socialism if we allying with them
[quote]I'd prefer that the people storm the bank rather than
their neighbors.[/quote]
If storming the banks does not prevent Judaism and Whiteness
from rising again, then it's useless, seeing banking activity
firstly come from "whites" and Jews you know. See this post on
this forum :
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/it-was-not-'blacks'-who-founded-the-oppressive-economic-system/msg15913/#msg15913
[quote]"You are not going to have open borders by restricting an
entire continent for an ethnic majority, or even if you are only
looking to expel 'only' one ethnic group. Racism would need to
be very normalized to do this."[/quote]
If racism resulting total defeat for "whites", the Eurocentrist,
and Jews, then it must happen. There's nothing wrong to hate
"whites", the Eurocentrist, and Jews and got called "racist" by
people
[quote]"I can go to the same exact people you speak of, and
invite them to work with their neighbors (regardless of
ethnicity) to create community organizations that help
facilitate Folkic celebrations and grassroots social services
that brings their community together. Which method, my good
friend, do you think actually reduces racial tensions?"[/quote]
As long as there are no people with "white" and Judaic behavior,
you'll be fine, if one or some of the members do that, they got
punishment. I'm sure most of the people who do that will come
from a European background, even though not all of them.
[quote]I did read your empirical study, actually, and my point
still stands that the Han Chinese have been both historically
violent and technologically innovative for millennia. Are you
going to genocide them too?[/quote]
Even I want China entered World War 3 and got nuked too
alongside with the West
[quote]Again I will point out that BLM tried this and it only
made people more racist.[/quote]
They have total prestige of showing the true beliefs of their
enemies, and showing their enemies on who really they are.
[quote]My issue isn't dismantling the "white" (and "black")
identity, or attacking downright Western racists. My issue is
categorically oppressing a group of people for having a certain
skin color.[/quote]
My issue is using "white and black identity" which invented by
"whites" to easily recognize who are bad people ("whites") and
who are anti-bad people ("non-whites"). Westerners are
discriminative by behavior and they usually consider themselves
as "civilized" or call themselves "white"
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: antihellenistic Date: May 3, 2023, 6:39 pm
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[quote]Treating them like they do will only produce either
self-hating "whites" who serve to kiss up to "non-white"
racists[/quote]
Self-hating "whites" will serve to kiss up "non-white"
anti-racist, because they make word "white" which racist by
terminology and definition scared by people who attempt to
attach it to themselves
[quote]Right on brother. But the way to do this is to first let
people know that the option to not be "white" (and "black"!)
exists to begin with.[/quote]
The first way is to prevent "white" terminology to be used by
people positively, and showing to people that "black"
terminology shows the inferiority of "white" terminology which
resulting word "black"
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: antihellenistic Date: May 3, 2023, 6:50 pm
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[quote]Treating them like they do will only produce either
self-hating "whites" who serve to kiss up to "non-white"
racists[/quote]
Hitler also do that. The result was the "whites" kiss up to our
subjugation (anti-colonial movements).
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: FRG_03 Date: May 3, 2023, 7:21 pm
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"the notion that everyone who just casually considers themselves
"white" does so as if they consciously want to enslave the
world."
We don't need their support of people attached to calling
themselves "white" or have "white" values. You yourself said we
should "separate the chafe" in your video. We should be
appealing to light skinned individuals who have always refused
or quickly abandon identifying as "white" on principle, who
would naturally be of higher moral and spiritual quality.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: 2ThaSun Date: May 3, 2023, 7:30 pm
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"Did you forget to post under your other account? I called you
"flake" because I had a feeling it was you. I'm not surprised
you don't get it."
So, you still have not explained how deleting an account on a
forum and then creating a new one makes me "flake"\eccentric,
creep!?
Now we're getting somewhere! Funny how this is a reoccurring
theme with you "white" creeps and perverts on the internet you
so desperately need to be in my personnel business you follow me
around on the internet like a bunch of lost demons.
I don't know if you have realized this or not, but when you
delete an account on this forum it no-longer exists. I do not
have any other accounts on this forum creep! I keep deleting
accounts and spending less and less time on the internet because
of demons such as yourself. I do NOT understand why you cannot
leave me alone!? You know what's also funny, I was just ranting
into my own recorder in my own truck the other day about how
"everyone else in the US sucks compared to the S.F. bay area",
the very next day you post on this forum with this title: "Why
You All Suck". Odd, isn't it? I wonder what else a jury will
find odd about so many other "coincidences" I have logged on the
internet? I also know who YOU are!!! What do you think is going
to happen to you and your fellow creeps if I found an audio
recording device planted in my truck and home?
Should I start posting photos of all the "white" creeps on the
internet who desperately attempt to get into my personnel
business on this forum as well?
"I actually don't mind. What I do mind, however, are idiots like
you trying to critique it without spending three seconds to read
it."
LOL!!!
BONUS SONG:
Radiohead - Creep
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PS - To Aryanists, I would stay away from Ascesis website, it is
probably an attempt to hack you!!!
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