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Re: Why You All Suck
DIR By: Ascesis
Date: May 11, 2023, 3:44 pm
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I love how the more I debate 90sRF, the more he has to resort to
obvious idiocy. Its all the same to me if its mental acrobatics,
or argumentative fallacies. Enjoy.
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Re: Why You All Suck
DIR By: guest98
Date: May 11, 2023, 3:57 pm
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Get this idiot out of here.
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Re: Why You All Suck
DIR By: Ascesis
Date: May 11, 2023, 4:07 pm
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Is my voice really that loud in your head?
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Re: Why You All Suck
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 11, 2023, 4:30 pm
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You:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/t1853/msg19415/#msg19415
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> And while I'm at it, I want to make my perspective clear to
you all: I am no longer bothering to debate with 90sRF
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You (a day later):
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/t1853/msg19455/#msg19455
"Its about letting noble genetics win over ignoble genetics,
regardless of which broad group(s) either come from..."
Exactly. So if I first eliminate all bloodlines traced to 10th
century "Europe", and then let noble genetics win over ignoble
genetics among the remaining bloodlines only, I have completed
the Aryanist mission, since I have been regardless of where the
noble genetics came from (ie. it was of no concern to me that
none of the noble genetics came from 10th century "Europe").
In contrast, if I insist that noble genetics from all parts of
the world be included in the final victory over ignoble
genetics, I would be operating according to an ethnic/geographic
quota, which would be the opposite of being regardless of where
the noble genetics came from (because a rule is in force that
there must be representation from all parts of the world where
noble genetics can be found).
The burden is on you to become literate enough to figure this
out.
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Re: Why You All Suck
DIR By: Ascesis
Date: May 11, 2023, 4:53 pm
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>So if I first eliminate all bloodlines traced to 10th century
"Europe",
Everyone in 10th century Europe was ignoble? Shocking.
>if I insist that noble genetics from all parts of the world be
included in the final victory over ignoble genetics, I would be
operating according to an ethnic/geographic quota, which would
be the opposite of being regardless of where the noble genetics
came from (because a rule is in force that there must be
representation from all parts of the world where noble genetics
can be found).
Yet another desperate strawman. The priority here is the
survival of noble genetics regardless of where they come from,
not a supposed ethnic quota. You are already operating on an
ethnic quota, by saying anyone you decide to call "white" should
go extinct. You are projecting.
>You (a day later):
I knew you'd try to take it an as opportunity to say even more
indefensible nonsense, and clearly the investment paid off. I
love how the more I debate you, the more you have to resort to
obvious idiocy. Its all the same to me if its mental acrobatics,
or argumentative fallacies. Enjoy (your time in the cringe
compilation).
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Re: Why You All Suck
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: May 11, 2023, 6:32 pm
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> Everyone in 10th century Europe was ignoble? Shocking.
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Whites are ignoble from the classical era, they produce the
greatest evil that is a democracy, Judaism, scientific racism,
and scientific empiricism, which no other group of people from
any ethnic did that thing. Therefore no use in noticing "whites"
case by case
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> The priority here is the survival of noble genetics
--- End Quote ---
If survival of noble genetics required to delete genetics of
"whites" then we happily to do that
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> by saying anyone you decide to call "white" should go extinct.
You are projecting.
--- End Quote ---
In the past "whites" always projected "colored people" as
inferior for the sake of justifying their oppression of them, if
we talk negatively about "whites" that's today retaliation until
"whites" are afraid to call themselves "white"
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> >Aryanist position (unchanged since the beginning): it does
not matter ethnicitywise which bloodlines we use to breed the
Aryan population we want. Direct logical implication (used
today): it does not matter if our eventual Aryan population
includes zero bloodlines currently classified as "white".
>
> And? The same applies to "blacks", Arabs, Asians, Latinos, Et
cetera.
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Fortunately, the reality of nature shows that "blacks", "Arabs",
and "Latinos" still contain agrarian Aryan blood which is less
contaminated with "white" blood, so there are some of the people
from that ethnicity who produce the leftist way of life which
from it that ethnic groups will spare from annihilation. "white"
blood dominantly embedded on Indo-Europeans which resulting
continuous inferior western way of life which produced from
them. Therefore it's possible to make "whites" got annihilated.
On "Asians", still got our suspicion because they always try to
imitate "whites" in their way of life, they produce western
industrial living and capitalism which almost matches with
criteria provided by "whites". Your argument about the
possibility of "zero Aryan genes" from "blacks", "Arabs",
"Asians", and "Latino" just speculation now...
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> Yet another desperate strawman. The priority here is the
survival of noble genetics regardless of where they come from,
not a supposed ethnic quota. You are already operating on an
ethnic quota, by saying anyone you decide to call "white" should
go extinct. You are projecting.
--- End Quote ---
Because you cannot accept the reality that "whites" produce the
most evil thing in this world which make them get judged with
the most negative notions. Recall
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Re: Why You All Suck
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 11, 2023, 7:36 pm
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"Everyone in 10th century Europe was ignoble?"
No, but I am not obliged to worry about preserving every noble
bloodline. Again:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/t1853/msg19436/#msg19436
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> The mission of Aryanism is to end up with a purely Aryan
population. Nowhere do the mission parameters specify that this
purely Aryan population must include descendants of every Aryan
bloodline currently around.
--- End Quote ---
"The priority here is the survival of noble genetics regardless
of where they come from, not a supposed ethnic quota."
Yes, so stop complaining about me doing "white" genocide prior
to starting Aryanization. Because after "white" genocide I will
still have more than enough noble genetics to comfortably do
Aryanization with. Every time you complain about this, you
confirm that your priority is not noble genetics regardless of
where they come from, but noble genetics which MUST include a
"white" quota.)
"You are already operating on an ethnic quota, by saying anyone
you decide to call "white" should go extinct."
Zero is not a quota. It is absence of a quota.
You are the one insisting on a non-zero "white" contribution to
the eventual Aryan population, so you are the one operating on
an ethnic quota.
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Re: Why You All Suck
DIR By: FRG_03
Date: May 11, 2023, 8:49 pm
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"Ascesis" is living proof those with much "white" blood will
never fully understand true left idealism of beliefs.
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Re: Why You All Suck
DIR By: Junito18
Date: May 11, 2023, 8:52 pm
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“The Mongols were quite numerous, though”
“Doesn't this also happen(ed) quite a bit in the Middle East,
where people largely live off of livestock to survive?”
These two groups are pastoralists, not hunter-hatherers.
Aryanism.net distinguished between farmers, hunters, and
herders, and I suppose it is sensible to make this distinction,
although I have concentrated on the differences between farmers
and (some but not all groups of?) hunter-gatherers in this
thread, and not talked about herders.
“But in that case, can we also agree that we don't have to worry
as much about a expansionist agrarian civilization overturning
self-restricting agrarian civilizations, as people did in
ancient times?”
Yes. I’m not saying that it would be bad to move towards a low
impact agrarian civilization in the present day. I’m only saying
that the original transition from hunting to settled
civilization caused a mental degradation of humanity. I'm just
trying to explain what domesticated behaviour and thinking
consists of and how domestication caused people to behave and
think like that.
“We can say the same thing about agrarian society, that the
people in charge will only be supported as long as they're
respected.”
No. The thing that gives rulers in large, highly organised
societies power is that everyone might have no respect for the
leader, but each person can’t be sure what other people think.
So in theory someone could kill the tyrant and everyone could
just agree that it was good and the tyrants guards could just
not arrest the assassin, but in practise the assassin will not
kill the tyrant because he will think “The guards might decide
to side with me but what if they don’t and they arrest me”. And
if he does kill the tyrant, one of the (let’s say) two guards
might think “I agree with him killing the tyrant but I can’t
side with him because then the other guard might kill me” and
the other guard might be thinking exactly the same thing as
well. Now imagine that there are 100 guards thinking “I agree
with the assassin but how likely is it that the other guards
won’t arrest me if I take his side?”
“Unless you're in England”
You got it in one. Proud citizen of Bongistan.
“Is it a bad thing that civilization conflicts with
undomesticated thinking?”
Yes, if you agree that the domesticated thinking include the
traits I listed before and that those traits are negative, and
hence that undomesticated thinking is positive.
“Personally, I think the modern disconnection from Sun, Earth,
wind, water, and stars has caused enormous physical,
psychological, and spiritual damage.”
Well yes, none of us want to look up at the night sky and see
one of Musk-san’s space billboards advertising Coca-Cola.
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Re: Why You All Suck
DIR By: Ascesis
Date: May 11, 2023, 9:01 pm
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>No, but I am not obliged to worry about preserving every noble
bloodline.
So far, you have acknowledged that your politics will increase
tribalism, now you openly state that noble people of a certain
broad ethnic group should go extinct, while giving ignoble
people of different broad ethnic groups a pass. Keep talking.
>but noble genetics which MUST include a "white" quota.
Nope, just that noble genetics should survive, regardless of
where they come from. This is the second time you've tried this
strawman. Keep talking.
>Zero is not a quota. It is absence of a quota.
Quota or otherwise, you are advocating for ethnic
discrimination. Or dare I say, racism.
>You are the one insisting on a non-zero "white" contribution to
the eventual Aryan population,
Nope, just that noble genetics should survive, regardless of
where they come from. This is the third time you've tried this
strawman. Keep talking.
>you are the one operating on an ethnic
I'm not operating on an ethnic anything, you are the one who
wants to cause counterproductive and unnecessary division so you
can reinforce colonial identitarianism.
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