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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Follower of Arya Date: May 9, 2023, 7:25 am
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[quote author=m94r link=topic=1853.msg19294#msg19294
date=1683520593]
Now prepare yourself, your about to be chained.
[/quote]
Your network is so poorly managed that you’ve got a
schizophrenic using it to vent his violent fantasies. There is
no recruitment drive other than whatever delinquents walk in
here looking for a place to LARP.
We are on the path to apocalyptic famine, a refugee crisis like
no other, political and social tensions are reaching boiling
point in the US, and the planet is speedballing towards a
runaway greenhouse effect; yet how can you present yourself as a
serious alternative to mainstream politics when all you’re doing
is posting news articles and jerking off over people’s
appearances? You would rather rely on “demographic blue shift”
to save us than actually put in the groundwork.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: antihellenistic Date: May 9, 2023, 7:55 am
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[quote]You would rather rely on “demographic blue shift” to save
us than actually put in the groundwork.[/quote]
At least it already happening and still ongoing, they will be
useful for overthrowing current political stagnation in the West
and defeat the "whites". We got help enough from them, so, even
though we not yet create political power, they all significantly
help us
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Follower of Arya Date: May 9, 2023, 8:45 am
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[quote author=antihellenistic link=topic=1853.msg19347#msg19347
date=1683636907]
At least it already happening and still ongoing, they will be
useful for overthrowing current political stagnation in the West
and defeat the "whites". We got help enough from them, so, even
though we not yet create political power, they all significantly
help us
[/quote]
Let’s just pray that the rightist death squads that are gearing
up don’t take us out first then. Or that the coming refugee
crisis doesn’t send the majority to the right. Or that America
doesn’t collapse and balkanise. Or that our enemies don’t
develop technology that will make it impossible to defeat them.
I’m sure we can wait out another 5, 10, 15 years of democracy
without anything going wrong in the meantime.
(And before you try arguing it, no, the refugees will not help
your blue shift. They will be shot/bombed where they stand or
left at the border to die.)
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: FRG_03 Date: May 9, 2023, 10:31 am
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So "Follower of Arya" what are YOU going to do about it?
Everyone who has come here to complain haven't explained their
solutions, just attack. If you aren't subverters why don't you
help the people you supposedly agree with instead of insulting
and appealing to virtueism?
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Ascesis Date: May 9, 2023, 11:13 am
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>Because “black” supremacy isn’t really a thing.
....yes it is. It it WAY more socially acceptable to be a
racially aware "black" in the States, than it is to be a
racially aware "white". No one questions the "black" guy wearing
the "black and beautiful", but switch both with "white" and
everyone will lose their minds. Saying everyone gets to be
racist but one group, is only really going to make that one
group racist.
>Reactionary tribalism isn’t as bad to me because it’s a defense
mechanism, whereas “white” supremacy rose organically, and on
its own.
Tribalism is tribalism. You are basically saying that slave
identities are okay, but enslaver identities are not, although
at this point they're honestly both slave identities.
>They don’t tend to talk about other groups at all from what
I’ve read and seen from them.
You think "blacks" have never had trouble with Koreans &
Latinos? lol
“Well his highly-documentated inability to acknowledge that
anti-tech "whites" exist, and pro-tech "non-whites" exist, and
that the problem is with technocrats, not a broad ethnic group,
does a damn good job at making it seem like he is allergic to
this nuance.”
>The issue is that one group is disproportionately responsible
for many of them, and it’s not even close.
Reread my music faction analogy, because I'm getting really sick
of repeated myself ad nausea. This "group" includes people who
are not responsible for things people who vaguely look like them
did. Learn basic Aryanism.
>They don’t.
He does. Did you even read our argument?
“Wait, what do you mean they're becoming self-hating idiots
reinforcing everyone else's racist egos? What do you mean
they're choosing extreme arrogance over extreme submission, and
becoming racist themselves?”
>Even if 90sRetroFan’s approach were the wrong approach, an ally
taking the wrong approach to victory is still way more of an
ally than someone who becomes an enemy because of that wrong
approach.
No. A "friend" can screw you more than an enemy can, and many
enemies will help you in ways a "friend" never could. War isn't
as symmetrical as you think.
>but if someone becomes a genuine tribalist, then it’s
ultimately their problem
No, its OUR problem if people become racist. The entire point is
to stop that from happening, whereas you your boy 90sRF
straightup acknowledged that his politics are increasing racial
tensions and injustices, but does not care. If you're entire
argument is "well people suck lol" then why are you even here?
>They’re still the person that I admire the most, regardless of
any potential criticisms
yikes. Regardless of any potential criticism? I can get credit
where credit's due, but I think he even knows that he's lucky
that he has someone willing to use their optimism to excuse his
ignobility.
"A yes man finds his identity through his association with the
leader, so he will consciously or subconsciously modify his
words and behavior to protect his position before the leader. A
loyal man, in contrast, will find his identity in who he is
before the throne of God, which gives him freedom to love his
leader unconditionally; but also gives him the freedom to give
the leader feedback from a heart of sincerity, honesty,
openness, and wisdom. Loyal men and women are not afraid to
speak the truth in love because they are more concerned about
serving the leader than protecting their own status with the
leader."
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Ascesis Date: May 9, 2023, 11:23 am
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>"White" identity was created in the U.S. by Western
colonialists, it was not invented by True Leftists to describe
anyone
Strawman. I never claimed TL created those slave identities, I
am saying that using them is only reinforcing the.
>We are making the people you mentioned aware that the option
you specified exists
Obscure forum post one says "white bad", obscure forum post two
says "but anyone who thinks a word used as a passive descriptor
is also somehow thinking that they want slavery back". You
obviously have not read this my and 90sRF's debate.
"He is notorious for being a cúnt to people, he needs to be made
fun of."
He has not provided any "facts", only argumentative fallacies.
>No True Leftist has ever advocated for sterilizing anyone,
I am convinced that the person call me "illiterate" has not read
the debate at all.
>"Whites" invented "white" identity for themselves, and then
forced "black" identity on their once fellow African countrymen
I don't care, "blacks" still cling to it more than "whites"
cling to "whiteness." Tribalism is tribalism, now answer the
question.
"Whites" do not have nearly the same racial and spiritual
homogeneity that Jews do. Why not apply this to "black" people
too? Don't get me wrong, just saying that "whiteppl suck" isn't
enough. Autarkic living, and a complete moral paradigm shift
needs to follow. But this applies to everyone else as well, not
just "whites".
>Your last ditch attempt to save a perceived "dying community"
on the internet should have been to create a better community
and then come here, tell us about it, and just drop a link.
...That's what I did. You think your Leftist schizo forum is
Ascesis' source of recruitment?
>"Whites" created and control Western civilization, the
civilization which was responsible for western colonialism.
"Whiteness" must die long before non-"whites" should worry about
what they need change about themselves
Who would you rather die, an average "white" guy or a "black"
Zionist politician?
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: 2ThaSun Date: May 9, 2023, 1:20 pm
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@Ascesis:
Why are you so obsessed with people that obviously do not like
you? If we're such failures here, why not just leave us alone
and move on with your life? Obviously, nothing you say here is
going to change any of our minds and make us interested in your
movement. Perhaps you would be wiser spending your time
recruiting in other forums besides this one?
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: FRG_03 Date: May 9, 2023, 2:16 pm
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"You think your Leftist schizo forum is Ascesis' source of
recruitment?"
Then where are you recruiting from? "Third Positionist" enemies
no doubt.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: SirGalahad Date: May 9, 2023, 2:40 pm
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: SirGalahad Date: May 9, 2023, 2:44 pm
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@Ascesis “…yes it is.”
I don’t even think that you actually believe this. There’s a
difference between “white” tribalists being intentionally
inflammatory and saying slogans like “White is beautiful” or
“White pride!”, and “black” Americans trying to rediscover their
self-confidence. There are no swaths of black-empowered
movements proclaiming “black” people to be superior to every
other group on the planet, and that they should inherit the
earth to steer in their preferred direction because of their
clear superiority. The last time that forming a state dedicated
to black people was a serious idea within the mainstream, was
way back in the times of Malcolm X. And even then, the purpose
of the proposed state was more to be free from racism and
perceived oppression, than to keep their superior genes pure.
And if we’re speaking historically, there were never any “black”
supremacist examples of colonialism either. The entire past few
centuries was all “white” people. Are there “black” people that
lash out at other groups occasionally or even commit racially
charged crimes? Sure, I never claimed that any one group was
unilaterally perfect and composed only of morally upstanding
citizens. But it’s just not the same effect
And speaking of self-confidence, Eurocentrism isn’t just a
problem among “black” Americans. We all know about women from
India that obsess over getting with “white” men. Or men from
India obsessing over “white” women and even following them
around when they walk around the country as a tourist. Or
Hispanic parents telling their children that they should marry a
“white” person. Or southeast “Asian” women willingly getting
with “white” sexpats. Again, “Black is beautiful” has completely
different connotations than “White is beautiful”. “White” people
aren’t trying to regain confidence, because they don’t need it
Also, anybody complaining about not being able to wear a “White
is beautiful” shirt, should spend more time fighting against
“white” racism and the past that caused that kind of statement
to have that stigma in the first place. If none of the past few
centuries ever happened, nobody would care at all about their
“White is beautiful” shirt. They could parade around with
clothing aggrandizing their pointless identity all they want.
But they won’t. They’ll just continue to lash out at leftists
with actual grievances, and we all know why
@Follower of Arya Then go. Do anything at all. Nobody here is
going to stop you. Are you aware of how many times people have
come on here to ramble about how useless 90sRetroFan supposedly
is, and then when they go to put their plan into motion, we
never hear from them again at some point? Clearly 90sRetroFan
isn’t as easy to outclass as some people say. I WANT people out
there doing stuff in real life. But I don’t trust the kinds of
people who come on here with grand plans at all. Nothing ever
comes of it. You aren’t the first to come on here complaining
about this circle, and you won’t be the last I’m sure. For all I
know, it’ll be my turn to make an attempt at real life action
sometime soon when I have a car, and I myself will suffer the
same exact fate
I’m not gonna participate in this debate anymore, if I can help
it. I think that it’s completely run its course. And if you
guys value productivity, then I suggest you do the same
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