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Re: Why You All Suck
By: guest98 Date: May 7, 2023, 11:57 pm
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Everything that comes out of your mouth is poison, so why don't
you shut it? Your ruining the quality of this forum fool.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 8, 2023, 12:08 am
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"All you've ever implied is that you are a short"
The only time I said anything about my height, as far as I can
recall, was here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg13049/#msg13049
and it was a lower bound. Thank you for once again proving your
innumeracy.
"fertilize me"
No, I am voluntarily refraining from reproducing, as previously
mentioned here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/t1853/msg19132/#msg19132
Thank you for once again proving your illiteracy.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: guest98 Date: May 8, 2023, 1:12 am
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This guy's not a soldier, you can tell by the way he writes.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Ascesis Date: May 8, 2023, 7:28 am
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>I get the sense that your trying to harm or destroy me, clearly
you don't understand the kind of person your dealing with,
demon. If one cannot be baptized by the water or fire then it's
straight to the chaining they go!! Now prepare yourself, your
about to be chained.
This would be funny if it were not obvious you've had a mental
break within the past few years
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Ascesis Date: May 8, 2023, 7:33 am
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>The only time I said anything about my height, as far as I can
recall, was here
Ehhh I haven't even seen this link until now. I was more so
guessing from your statement that you still wear clothes you had
in middle school, as people I know in real life who do that are
short.
Nothing wrong with being short, I just think its funny that you
think you're so hot that women who don't want to "reproduce with
you" should be sterilized.
>No, I am voluntarily refraining from reproducing, as previously
mentioned here
Cool autism bro. Women who don't want to reproduce with you
should be sterilized, but they don't even get to if they want?
Tragic.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Junito18 Date: May 8, 2023, 11:48 am
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Notice the sleight of hand he uses by constantly changing the
definitions of the words he’s using as it suits him. At one
moment, “white” refers to anyone who identifies as white, which
is bad because the term was invented by Western colonisers to
justify slavery.
“If they call themselves "white", they are volunteering to be
associated with the Western colonizers.”
Then at another moment, “white” means anyone descended from
Western colonisers, regardless of whether they identify as
“white”.
“When do the "white" Manifest Destiny occupiers (which I what I
think you mean) intend to return the land they stole? I am not
even demanding that they personally emigrate. All they need to
do is refrain from reproducing, and the land will cease to be
inherited by their descendants.”
And he says
“You are illiterate. I have always supported open borders.”
but for some reason Europeans going to America and building
settlements is wrong. And before you tell me that they drove the
natives off their land, not every wave of European immigrants
was involved in doing that. The idea of Manifest Destiny, which
he cited, came hundreds of years after the Puritans arrived in
North America.
And I bet he doesn’t think that Arabs should leave North Africa
and return land to the Berbers, or that the Bantu should return
land to the Khoisan.
And then that graph he posted to show that Arabs and Europeans
are clustered together genetically. There was a time when he
would have said that geographical racial categorisations aren’t
even valid and ridiculed anyone who used them as a ‘HBD forum
user’ or a ‘Gentile’ or a member of the Alt-Right or a
‘Neo-Nazi’. Now he’s using them himself.
And by the way, the transistor, which is the electrical
component that modern computers are based on, was invented by a
Korean and an Egyptian Arab.
Can I give you a piece of advice? You say you want to create a
new movement to restore the original version of Aryanism, but
why? You should just ditch the ideology and start from scratch.
Yeah, it was better than this new site but are you really
convinced that it was completely correct?
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: SirGalahad Date: May 8, 2023, 12:56 pm
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@Junito18 “Then at another moment, ‘white’ means anyone
descended from Western colonisers, regardless of whether they
identify as ‘white’.”
That’s not what they’re trying to say. They have explicitly
stated that white-passing people who reject whiteness aren’t
“white”, regardless of their genetic makeup. The same way that
90sRetroFan says in their article on Christianity over on the
main website that even if Jesus were from a Jewish lineage, he
himself would not be Jewish because he stayed celibate (The
criticism here seems to be that 90sRetroFan’s views have changed
significantly somehow, yet that article is an old one, and it
directly mirrors what they’ve been saying here about “white”
identity). And related to celibacy, their issue is that it gets
messy if the person in question decides to actually reproduce.
Let’s take a Jewish person. They claim to reject their Jewish
identity, but then proceed to reproduce with another Jewish
person, creating even more ethnic Jews, many of which will
decide to self-identify as Jewish when they get older, even if
the parent continues to not self-identify as such. The person in
this example is still functionally Jewish. Even if they aren’t
trying to deceive and genuinely claim to not care about Jewish
identity, they still ended up directly furthering the genetic
imperative of the tribe they say that they don’t care to belong
to. Similar logic is being applied to “white” people in this
context. What you and 90sRetroFan are ACTUALLY disagreeing on,
is what constitutes “rejecting whiteness”
“but for some reason Europeans going to America and building
settlements is wrong.”
They never said this either. On the blog and on the forum, they
mention that the story of the native Squanto making an attempt
to accept the new arrivals and help them secure food is a
positive one. 90sRetroFan’s opinion of the First Thanksgiving
story is actually uncharacteristically optimistic by left-wing
standards. And they also have openly acknowledged the great
potential of this narrative of people from the Old World coming
to the New World to start afresh with their own religious
principles (although the reality ended up being far more
disappointing, because most of them weren’t introspective enough
to amount to anything more than western Puritans). I also recall
over on the blog, a “white” nationalist asking 90sRetroFan if
they would let “Europeans” migrate to “African” countries if
they wanted to, and 90sRetroFan said yes, to the “white”
nationalist’s dismay. 90sRetroFan only “hates” the migration to
the Americas, insofar as it was a colonial/“white”
supremacist/Manifest Destiny-supporting endeavor. Which is to
say, it almost entirely was, but not always. And 90sRetroFan
acknowledges this. There’s no double standard to point out here
“And by the way, the transistor, which is the electrical
component that modern computers are based on, was invented by a
Korean and an Egyptian Arab.”
No. The first working transistors are credited to John Bardeen,
Walter Brattain and William Shockley, and before it was actually
made, the person who came up with the concept was Julius Edgar
Lilienfeld. The two people you’re referring to, invented the MOS
transistor specifically
And even if they had been responsible for everything, including
both the conceptual phase and the first working physical
transistors, that doesn’t really amount to much. Has 90sRetroFan
ever claimed that non-whites are incapable of furthering
machinism? They have posted the pictures of non-white machinists
on this forum, and labeled them as enemies.
90sRetroFan’s issue is that “white” people (including Jews) are
still indeed vastly overrepresented in the creation of new
machines, regardless of non-white machinists and non-white
sympathizers of the West. Whiteness as an identity was
fabricated to benefit the certain subset of people that
fabricated it. In this context, it makes sense to use data to
make extrapolations on the “white” tribe, because even if
whiteness itself is a fundamentally meaningless construct, you
take on all the burdens of that construct by self-identifying
under that construct, or by helping to perpetuate that construct
(actually, in this case, 90sRetroFan wasn’t even using their own
data. They were using the data of white tribalists, against
white tribalists).
Also, “white” tribalists use data to make extrapolations on even
people who may not self-identify as “black” for example (which
is another concept that was fabricated by the same exact people
who fabricated whiteness) . Our data extrapolations are not
intended to be used against white-passing people who genuinely
reject the concept of whiteness. We perceive people on a case by
case basis. Ethnotribalists on the other hand, use their data to
say things like “Stereotypes exist for a reason”. They’re so far
gone, that they don’t even make an attempt to seem like they
treat people fairly, or on a case by case basis. I think it’s
fine to critique the use of data here, because constructive
criticism should always be welcome here and I’m open to it, but
there’s a fundamental difference between how 90sRetroFan
typically uses data, and how white tribalists typically use data
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: 2ThaSun Date: May 8, 2023, 1:15 pm
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"Aryanist "leaders" fúcking suck"
Who here has ever claimed to be an "Aryanist leader"?
All 90SRF has ever stated is that he wants to be an Aryan
administrator for the Aryanization process.
Since you have obviously been keeping record of my internet
activity and all of my past accounts on this forum, show me
where I have ever claimed to be a leader?
The lack of leadership in all Leftist circles has always been an
issue for leftism in general...
Please also tell us how running a smear campaign on a Leftist
forum will help us find a leftist leader?
“And by the way, the transistor, which is the electrical
component that modern computers are based on, was invented by a
Korean and an Egyptian Arab.”
How Aristotle Created the Computer
[quote]The philosophers he influenced set the stage for the
technological revolution that remade our world.[/quote]
HTML https://getpocket.com/explore/item/how-aristotle-created-the-computer?utm_source=pocket-newtab
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: guest98 Date: May 8, 2023, 3:18 pm
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Shut your mouth, now stay in the prison that you belong in.
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Re: Why You All Suck
By: Junito18 Date: May 8, 2023, 3:20 pm
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"Let’s take a Jewish person. They claim to reject their Jewish
identity, but then proceed to reproduce with another Jewish
person, creating even more ethnic Jews, many of which will
decide to self-identify as Jewish when they get older, even if
the parent continues to not self-identify as such. "
OK. So he does think that all people of European descent should
not reproduce, regardless of whether they identify as white.
Glad we cleared that up. He thinks 'Jew' is a valid racial
category based in biological reality. I suppose that, contrary
to countless previous statements he has made over the years, he
now thinks the same about 'white people', as him posting that
graph would suggest.
Does he also think that African Americans should also not
reproduce because they are descended from members of tribes who
displaced the Khoisan, and who warred amongst each other? Does
he think that Austronesian people should not reproduce because
they displaced the native Negritos. Is that what the ideology is
now - an ultra-recidivist movement whose goal is to return all
land to whatever aboriginal people first laid claim to it?
"On the blog and on the forum, they mention that the story of
the native Squanto making an attempt to accept the new arrivals
and help them secure food is a positive one."
And yet that contradicts what he is saying now.
"I also recall over on the blog, a “white” nationalist asking
90sRetroFan if they would let “Europeans” migrate to “African”
countries if they wanted to, and 90sRetroFan said yes, to the
“white” nationalist’s dismay."
That was on the blog. It contradicts what he is saying now.
"No. The first working transistors are credited to John Bardeen,
Walter Brattain and William Shockley, and before it was actually
made, the person who came up with the concept was Julius Edgar
Lilienfeld. "
Fine - the MOSFET, which is the specific type of transistor used
in modern computers, was invented by a Korean and an Arab. I'm
not going to argue about this because, as you must know, I don't
think the ethnicity of the person who invented it is important,
except in refuting your claim that whites have a unique genetic
propensity to advance technology. It took centuries of trial and
error and fumbling about with things such as alchemy for
Europeans to create the scientific method. The idea that they
are genetically predisposed towards empirical thinking because
it wasn't created all over the world independently and at the
same time is an absurdity.
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