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Aryanism vs Hyperboreanism
By: rp Date: March 10, 2023, 11:48 pm
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An extremely annoying misappropriation of Aryanism is
Hyperboreanism. Here is a Twitter user calling this out:
HTML https://twitter.com/ElegantiaeArbit/status/1632153061782110208
[Quote]
Bactrian 🌴
@ElegantiaeArbit
>RW Anglos/Scandis/Germanics tell you Northern Europe is the
based Hyperborean Thulean Doggerlander Apollonian urheimat of
the Aryan Solar Civilization
>the sun comes out for 5 minutes/month
Nice try
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Re: Aryanism vs Hyperboreanism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 11, 2023, 12:39 am
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See also:
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Re: Gentilism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 21, 2023, 5:57 pm
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Our old enemy Pierce on the topic:
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[quote]These Upper Paleolithic White men and women exhibited a
large degree of sexual
dimorphism, or physical difference between the sexes. The
average height of the women was
nearly seven inches less than that of the men, and their skulls
were not only smaller but
showed other secondary sexual differences, resulting in a less
"masculine" and more
"feminine" facial appearance. Whereas the men had distinctly
craggy, faces, those of the
women had softer contours.
Racial Variation
Sexual dimorphism varies greatly among the present-day races.
Mongoloids, for
example, have relatively slightly developed secondary sexual
characteristics, while
Europeans, on the average, show much greater secondary
differences between the sexes. And
among the subraces of the White race sexual dimorphism increases
from south to north, with
Mediterraneans exhibiting the least dimorphism and Nordics the
most.
In general, a large degree of sexual dimorphism in a race is an
indication of
evolutionary adaptation to markedly different male and female
social roles. When men and
women have similar lifestyles, there is relatively little need
for them to differ physically,
except in their reproductive organs. But in the big-game hunting
society of Upper Paleolithic
Europe, the men went out into the forests or the tundra to do
the hunting and killing, and the
women stayed at home to bear and raise the children -- for a
thousand generations.[/quote]
I agree, which is why it is no coincidence that Western
civilization is more patriarchist than non-Western
civilizations:
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Also:
[quote]Upper Paleolithic Whites had broad, rugged faces with
large, wide jaws, prominent
chins, and -- judging from the nasal openings in their skulls --
prominent noses of narrow-to-
medium width.[/quote]
I know.
[quote]There can be little doubt, however, that the Neolithic
revolution began in the Middle
East. At the time when the first cereal grains were being
cultivated in the Middle East more
than 10,000 years ago, the climate in Europe was wholly
unsuitable for farming.[/quote]
I know.
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Re: Aryanism vs Hyperboreanism
By: rp Date: April 21, 2023, 6:01 pm
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"I agree, which is why Western civilization is not
coincidentally more patriarchist than non-Western
civilizations:"
This is in addition to the Turanian blood!
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Re: Turanian diffusion
By: antihellenistic Date: April 10, 2024, 9:19 pm
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Turanist, the Defender of Western Civilization, got spotted
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Re: Aryanism vs Hyperboreanism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 10, 2024, 9:31 pm
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You should tell him who the real Aryans are.
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Re: Aryanism vs Hyperboreanism
By: antihellenistic Date: April 10, 2024, 10:03 pm
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Re: Blood memory
By: antihellenistic Date: April 17, 2024, 10:43 pm
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
By: antihellenistic Date: August 27, 2024, 2:31 am
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Conflicting racial views between Hitler and Himmler
[quote]And the general idea was that the Aryans had come from
Germany, or the Nordic region of northern Europe, and had moved
east to India, with some believing that an Aryan society still
existed in the Himalayas, which is why Himmler sent Ernst
Schäfer on an expedition to Tibet. I will point out, though,
that Hitler didn't believe in everything I've mentioned so far.
He didn't actually believe that there were Aryans in Tibet, like
Himmler did. And I can't see evidence of him agreeing with the
theories of Hyperboreans or some of the more outlandish stuff
like that. Although he may have believed in reincarnation just
like the Hindus do.
It was from the Race Pope that Hitler got the idea that Aryan
blood is what builds nations, and when Aryan blood is mixed with
lesser blood civilization collapses. So Hans Günter was highly
influential on Hitler and Himmler, and many other National
Socialist as well. But it was all garbage. There's no evidence
for any of what Günther or any of these other guys believed.
It's all just superstitious nonsense.[/quote]
Source :
The INSANE world of National Socialism’s Aryan Religion
HTML https://youtu.be/fGUq3V8kl30?si=MaikSxOVScAaiQyo
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Re: Aryanism vs Hyperboreanism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 27, 2024, 3:32 am
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[quote]the general idea was that the Aryans had come from
Germany, or the Nordic region of northern Europe[/quote]
Hitler never said this. On the contrary, recall the following
former blog post which showed Hitler's opposite tendency of
belief in southern superiority:
[quote][quote]Among the different varieties of nationalism that
have emerged in the world, since the French Revolution, most are
very largely gynecocratic: an eminent example is the nationalism
of 1789, which abolished rank inequalities (in favor of a
motherly and egalitarian conception of the nation), but also
Hitlerian nationalism or Soviet nationalism. This led Julius
Evola to point out that, “The modern world shows a return of the
themes that were proper to the ancient Southern gynecocratic
civilizations;” and that, “Socialism and communism” ultimately
prove “materialized and technological revivals of the ancient
telluric, Southern principle of equality and promiscuity of all
beings in Mother Earth.”[/quote]
Obviously I disagree with their choice of intentional
perjoratives to describe Hitlerism, such as “egalitarian” or
“gynecocratic”(????), but the main point is that they are
finally being forced to admit that Hitlerism is nothing like
what they as recently as a decade ago used to presume it was
(ie. neo-Nazism), but rather what we have been adamantly and
ceaselessly saying – from the very beginning of our activism –
it actually was (ie. authentic National Socialism). Not
“egalitarian” (in the sense of ignoring quality), of course, but
simply anti-racist. Nor “gynecocratic”, but simply anti-sexist.
I do broadly agree with two of Evola’s adjectives “telluric” and
“Southern” to describe authentic National Socialism, though of
course Evola had little in-depth grasp of the characteristics of
what he has accurately labelled. Here are some quotes reflecting
Hitler’s essentially Mediterranean blood memory (consistent with
the location of Asgard in our Aryan Diffusion theory):
“The southern peoples are not acquainted either with a meat diet
or with cooking. I lived marvellously in Italy. I don’t know any
country that enlivens one more.” – Adolf Hitler
“Once when I was travelling to Florence, I thought, as I passed
through it, what a paradise this land of southern France is !
But when I reached Italy—then I realised what a paradise on
earth can really be!” – Adolf Hitler
“We know to-day why our ancestors were not attracted to the
East, but rather to the South. Because all the regions lying
east of the Elbe were like what Russia is for us to-day. The
Romans detested crossing the Alps. The Germanic peoples, on the
other hand, were very fond of crossing them—but in the opposite
direction. … For any Roman, the fact of being sent to Germania
was regarded as a punishment—rather like what it used to mean to
us to be sent to Posen. You can imagine those rainy, grey
regions, transformed into quagmires as far as eye could see. The
megalithic monuments were certainly not places of worship, but
rather places of refuge for people fleeing from the advance of
the mud. The countryside was cold, damp, dreary.” – Adolf Hitler
...
(It was Himmler who was the Nordicist, and this is what Hitler
once said to him:
“You’ll understand, Himmler, that if I want to establish a
genuine civilisation to the North and East, I’ll have to make
use of men from the South. If I were to take official architects
of the Prussian Government to beautify Berlin, for example, I’d
do better to abandon the project!” – Adolf Hitler)[/quote]
[quote]He didn't actually believe that there were Aryans in
Tibet, like Himmler did.[/quote]
It is unknown whether or not Hitler believed this, but even if
he did, he would not have imagined that they arrived at Tibet
from the north as Himmler would have imagined. This is the
important point. We also have the explicit Hitler quote:
“I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being
inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and
I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own.”
– Adolf Hitler
so to the extent that, according to your quote:
[quote]Hitler got the idea that Aryan blood is what builds
nations, and when Aryan blood is mixed with lesser blood
civilization collapses.[/quote]
by implication Hitler would estimate China and Japan to have
contained a higher fraction of Aryan blood than Germany. Thus if
Hitler believed that Aryan blood exists in Tibet, it would have
been easier for him than for Himmler to postulate where it came
from.
[quote]And I can't see evidence of him agreeing with the
theories of Hyperboreans or some of the more outlandish stuff
like that.[/quote]
He could have agreed that Hyperboreans existed, but disagreed
they were Aryans. We also have this quote:
"In the Nordic legend we read of a struggle between giants and
gods." - Adolf Hitler
The burden is on Himmler who has to account for who the gods are
if he believes Aryans = Hyperboreans (= giants):
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