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       Ancient Chinese Monk Describes India
   DIR By: rp
       Date: February 26, 2023, 11:41 am
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       www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zy1IowqaDE
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       Re: Ancient Chinese Monk Describes India
   DIR By: rp
       Date: January 23, 2024, 11:05 am
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       Re: Turanian diffusion
   DIR By: antihellenistic
       Date: May 1, 2024, 1:56 am
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       Ancient Western Discriminative Racial Ideology
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       > ...Second, although the Old Javanese Ramayana was a palace
       commissioned text, written for and by a male-dominated elite, it
       was read in public performances and thus became a popular work.
       This story is one of the most famous epic stories in Indonesia
       and India (Chatterji 1967, 69). In ancient India, the Ramayana
       was recited in public with the intention of improving the
       spiritual well-being of kings and their subjects as well as for
       political purposes (Saran and Khanna 2004, 10). Some researchers
       argue that the Indian Ramayana was composed to support Aryan
       Western civilization (Vyas 1967, 3, 27, A. Sarkar 1987, 11). In
       the Indian Ramayana, Rama is represented as taking part in the
       spread of Aryan Indo-European culture in southern India (A.
       Sarkar 1987, 8). In precolonial Indonesia, the Ramayana was used
       to revive the teachings of Hinduism because around the 7th
       century Buddhism had become a strong influence in Sumatra, West
       Java and Central Java (Sunoto 1992, 50). So great was the
       influence of these Old Javanese texts from India that this
       influence is still felt today, and in many places in Java the
       heroes from Old Javanese texts remain more popular than Islamic
       heroes (Creese 2004, 23 -24; Zoetmulder 1974, 23). Its
       popularity and political significance are what make the Ramayana
       an influential text
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       > ...
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       > In both versions of the Ramayana, evil characters are depicted
       as having dark skin color and are represented through objective
       correlations that symbolize darkness and imply negative
       feelings. First, dark and black skin colors are used to imply
       suffering. In the Ancient Javanese Ramayana, a female ascetic
       whose skin was "as dark as kohl" (Ramayana 97-98, 148) tells how
       her skin turned black as punishment for eating the flesh of the
       god Vishnu. He considers his conversion to black as "the origin
       of his suffering" (Ramayana 150). The use of darkness to signify
       someone's suffering can also be seen in the scene where Sita is
       sad because she is separated from her husband. In this scene he
       is represented "like a new moon darkened by his suffering"
       (Ramayana 300). Thus darkness and dark skin are combined in
       these scenes through a sense of suffering.
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       Source :
       White, Skin Color, Race, and Beauty in Transnational Indonesia
       by L. Ayu Saraswati Page 36 and 49
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       Re: Ancient Chinese Monk Describes India
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: May 1, 2024, 4:02 am
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       "Ancient Western"
       Not traceable to Moses or Aristotle, therefore not Western. At
       most you can blame the Vedics.
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       Re: Ancient Chinese Monk Describes India
   DIR By: rp
       Date: May 1, 2024, 8:29 pm
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       This makes no sense. Most of the Vedics probably had dark skin.
       Yaduvanshi/Chandravanshi Krishna's name etymologically means
       "Black". The reason some villains in Hindu mythology are
       depicted darker is because the Vanavasi (non Aryans) most likely
       had darker skin compared to the Aryans (i.e. Ram, who was a
       Suryavanshi). More important than the skin color is the face
       shape, as you will see almost all "rakshasas" (demons) are
       depicted with a wide face and thick mustache. This is also a
       perfect caricature of the typical South Indian politician/thug,
       which is why it causes so much seethe in the vulgar plebian
       hordes.
       I don't know even know why Vedics would have preference for
       light skin, but I am willing to consider explanations.
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