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Fitness vs Health
By: rp Date: August 20, 2023, 9:17 pm
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Meathead Joe Rogan reveals his illiteracy once again:
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Re: Fitness vs Health
By: christianbethel Date: August 22, 2023, 12:47 pm
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What's the difference?
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Re: Fitness vs Health
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 22, 2023, 1:54 pm
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Fitness means deliberately damaging the body over and over again
in order that it has to recover over and over again, becoming
more bulky in the process.
Health means avoiding things that damage the body.
The difference between fitness and health is similar to the
difference between vaccination and lockdown approaches to
pandemic response:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/vaccination/msg10403/#msg10403
Fitness is progressive whereas health is regressive:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/aryan-immune-system/msg655/#msg655
Fitness is more competitive whereas health is superior:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/false-leftists-getting-leftism-wrong/msg21531/#msg21531
Western civilization has made the world less healthy:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/
but more fit:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/
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Re: Fitness vs Health
By: christianbethel Date: August 22, 2023, 2:07 pm
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I didn't realize. Can overweight people be healthy?
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Re: Exposing people with the Western Darwinian Worldview
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 22, 2023, 4:30 pm
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No. Being overweight demands organs work harder to serve the
increased body mass (e.g. the heart needs to pump harder to
supply blood to a larger number of cells), which is stressful
for the organs.
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Re: Exposing people with the Western Darwinian Worldview
By: rp Date: August 22, 2023, 4:41 pm
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It goes without saying that this applies to muscular people as
well, since muscle mass increases overall body weight.
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Re: Exposing people with the Western Darwinian Worldview
By: christianbethel Date: August 22, 2023, 8:47 pm
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Welp, exercise it is.
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Re: Exposing people with the Western Darwinian Worldview
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 2, 2023, 2:16 pm
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Our enemies explain why everyone in Silicon Valley should be
prohibited from reproducing ASAP:
HTML https://vdare.com/posts/n-y-review-of-books-is-shocked-shocked-to-find-silicon-valley-s-wealth-is-based-on-smart-old-ideas-about-nature-nurture
[quote]Palo Alto isn’t about a place so much as an idea: a
theory of selective breeding called the Palo Alto System, which,
in Harris’s view, has long guided the region’s ruling class. He
locates the origins of the Palo Alto System in a lovely stretch
of the South Bay now occupied by Stanford University. On one end
of Stanford’s campus sits a big red barn that looks like it fell
out of a children’s book—one of only two buildings remaining of
the dozens that were once distributed across Leland Stanford’s
horse farm. In 1876 the industrialist started buying up acres in
the area, creating a ranch. By the end of the following decade
the ranch had become the Palo Alto Stock Farm, an operation with
a staff of 150 devoted to the scientific perfection of horse
breeding.
Stanford wanted to breed stronger horses, faster. …
The Palo Alto Stock Farm turned out to be a big success. The
principal innovation was the Palo Alto System, which involved
teaching horses to trot when they were young. That way, Stanford
and his operatives could identify the promising ones early,
train them intensively, and then use them as studs to produce
more promising colts, thereby transmitting talent via superior
genes. “Instead of optimizing for adult speed, they optimized
for visible potential,” Harris writes.
The Palo Alto System didn’t stop with horses. It became the
guiding philosophy of the university that Stanford carved out of
his estate in 1885. Harris focuses in particular on David Starr
Jordan, the university’s first president, whom Harris credits
with bringing the Palo Alto System “out of the barn and into the
classroom.” Like many self-styled modernizers of the period,
Jordan loved eugenics. Under his direction, Harris argues, “the
small, young university became a national center for controlled
evolution.” Young white people with potential would be
identified and intensively trained, in the hope of staving off
racial decay.
One of the features of the Palo Alto System as it applied to
horses was an obsession with quantification. As the system
migrated to humans, this quantifying impulse turned toward
intelligence testing. Lewis Terman, a psychologist who joined
Stanford University in 1910, helped popularize the notion that
intelligence could be expressed in a single number, such as an
IQ score. He was especially interested in high-IQ children.
“Budding geniuses needed to be identified and elevated,” Harris
writes, “while young degenerates needed to be corralled where
they couldn’t dilute the national race or turn their
underachievement into social problems.”
Conveniently, Terman found one budding genius at home, training
his son Frederick as intensively as a promising colt. William
Shockley Sr., a Stanford engineering professor, took a similar
approach with his son. In both cases, helicopter parenting plus
nepotism paid off: Frederick Terman and William Shockley Jr.
helped create the field of operations research during World War
II, using mathematical techniques to optimize military
decision-making. As the war came to an end the younger Terman
began an illustrious career as a Stanford administrator, first
as the dean of its engineering school and then as the provost.
He turned Stanford into a cold war university flush with
Pentagon contracts and the surrounding valley into a major node
in the military-industrial complex. Meanwhile, in 1955, Shockley
started a semiconductor company that, while short-lived,
inaugurated the area’s silicon industry.
…
Shockley was a vicious racist, with a lifelong passion for
eugenics. His views are typically treated in histories of
Silicon Valley as mysterious quirks—Harris quotes a biographer
who called their origin “unknown and unknowable”—but Harris
demonstrates that they were far from aberrations. Shockley was
simply articulating the principles of the Palo Alto System that
had formed him, as transmitted by his father. Those principles
weren’t exceptional by the standards of their time, but they
found especially fertile ground in California, where whiteness,
Harris argues, had always served as the state’s “core organizing
principle.”
...
In 1921, Terman began his landmark study of gifted children with
IQs of 135 and above, which continues even today to track its
dwindling band of aged subjects.
...
His son inherited Lewis’s biases: Fred Terman’s wife of 47
years, who had been one of his father’s grad students, said he
only became serious about courting her after he went to the
Psych Department and looked up her IQ score.
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To get into Stanford today, you have to score higher than ever
on the IQ-like SAT. Students who scored a perfect 800 on the SAT
math test make up 26 percent of Stanford’s freshman class.
Silicon Valley firms such as Google make a cult of recruiting
high-IQ workers, constantly devising clever ways to identify the
clever....
In summary, the worldview that Palo Alto’s early 20th-century IQ
testers and eugenicists developed explains part of the basis for
the American economy’s most productive sector in the 21st
century.[/quote]
For contrast, recall:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_race_and_intelligence_controversy#1920%E2%80%931960
[quote]Adolf Hitler banned IQ testing for being "Jewish"[/quote]
This is why we keep emphasizing that National Socialist state
control over reproduction is not to be labelled as eugenics. In
our eyes, Silicon Valley is filled with inferior bloodlines:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley
[quote]Male oligopolies of high-tech power have recreated
traditional environments that repress the talents and ambitions
of women, people of color, and other minorities[/quote]
that, by no coincidence, also play a leading role in pushing the
world towards the very future we are trying to prevent:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/progressive-yahwism/
Previous Silicon Valley coverage:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/ethnonepotism/msg20904/#msg20904
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/groypers/msg21310/#msg21310
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg5406/#msg5406
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/red-coup/msg13198/#msg13198
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/msg10963/#msg10963
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-adhd/msg6035/#msg6035
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Re: Exposing people with the Western Darwinian Worldview
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 6, 2023, 1:46 pm
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HTML https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/04/natal-conference-austin-texas-eugenics
[quote]Revealed: US pro-birth conference’s links to far-right
eugenicists
...
A high-end hotel in the liberal Texan enclave of Austin is
playing host to a conference whose theme is boosting global
birth rates, but which will in fact feature racist and
eugenicist internet personalities and far-right media figures.
The Natal conference – whose website warns that “by the end of
the century, nearly every country on earth will have a shrinking
population, and economic systems dependent on reliable growth
will collapse” – is scheduled to be held on 1 December at the
Line Hotel.
Natal’s website claim the conference has “has no political or
ideological goal other than a world in which our children can
have grandchildren”, but the Guardian can reveal its organizer
Kevin Dolan has been promoting the event on the far-right
podcast circuit, and has explicitly linked the conference’s
“pro-natalist” orientation to eugenics.
Dolan was at one time a social media influencer connected to the
far-right Mormon “Deznat” or “Deseret nationalist” subculture
and has himself linked the conference’s theme with eugenics in
interviews.
On 13 June, Dolan was a guest on the Jolly Heretic podcast,
hosted by Edward Dutton, an Englishman who left an academic
position in Finland after his university found that a work he
co-authored with the self-described “scientific racist” Richard
Lynn plagiarized a student’s dissertation. Dutton once served as
editor of the eugenicist journal Mankind Quarterly and is listed
as a Natal speaker.
In his conversation with Dutton, Dolan said: “I think that the
pro-natalist and the eugenic positions are very much not in
opposition, they’re very much aligned.”[/quote]
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/edward-dutton/
Continuing:
[quote]“It’s not surprising to see far-right folks, eugenicist
types and white nationalists joining forces at a conference like
this. They have become bedfellows,” she said.
She added: “The far right has long fretted about a demographic
winter, and though they don’t necessarily say it openly, what
they are referring to most often is a fall in white birthrates.”
Other speakers listed on the conference website have mixed overt
racism and “Great Replacement” style conspiracy theories with
their views on population birth rates.
The star attractions are Malcolm and Simone Collins, who have
attracted significant coverage on both sides of the Atlantic for
their warnings about slowing birthrates in advanced economies
and how this will lead to “catastrophic population collapse”.
...
their practice and advocacy of selecting the fittest embryos to
carry forward into pregnancy have seen them branded as “hipster
eugenicists”.[/quote]
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/exposing-people-with-the-western-darwinian-worldview/msg18931/#msg18931
Continuing:
[quote]Another speaker at the conference is Charles Haywood, the
former shampoo magnate who the Guardian revealed as the founder
and sponsor of a far-right network of fraternal lodges, the
Society for American Civic Renewal, and who has speculated about
his own future as a “warlord” in “more-or-less open warfare with
the federal government” in a post-collapse America.[/quote]
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/rightist-militias/msg21671/#msg21671
Continuing:
[quote]Also listed is James Poulos. On the conference website,
Poulos originally listed his affiliation as being with Return,
the tech and spirituality newsletter acquired by rightwing Blaze
Media last month, according to a version of the site archived in
May.
...
Other speakers at Natal explicitly describe themselves as
eugenicists, and some happily conflate genetic traits and
genetic fitness with race. They include Jonathan Anomaly, whose
2018 paper Defending Eugenics called for a “non-coercive” or
“liberal eugenics” to “increase the prevalence of traits that
promote individual and social welfare”. That paper led
Australian academics to publish an open letter of protest to the
journal that published the paper.
Another, Razib Khan, had his contract as a New York Times
opinion writer abruptly withdrawn just one day after his
appointment was announced, following a Gawker report that
highlighted his contributions to outlets including the
paleoconservative Taki’s Magazine and anti-immigrant website
VDARE.
Many other speakers have current or past connections with the
far-right Claremont Institute, including Poulos, who is
executive editor of Claremont publication the American Mind;
Helen Roy, an American Mind contributing editor and fellow at
the Claremont Institute for Political Philosophy; and the
pseudonymous far-right social media influencer Raw Egg
Nationalist, who has published a book with the white nationalist
Antelope Hill press, appears regularly in the American Mind, and
is now a partner in an online teashop under the umbrella of
Claremont-connected New Founding.
Conference organizer Dolan, meanwhile, has a long history as an
activist and influencer on the far right.
From 2018 he pseudonymously promoted conservative Mormon and
alt-right talking points under the Twitter handle @extradeadJCB.
In August 2021, however, his identity was revealed by
antifascist activists and subsequently corroborated by Guardian
reporting.
Elsewhere in his June conversation with Edward Dutton, Dolan
characterized thw Mormon-affiliated Brigham Young University as
a eugenic project.
“They wouldn’t explicitly call it a breeding program, but that’s
what it is,” he told Dutton, adding that “it hoovers up all of
the smartest Mormons all over the world”. He concluded that “in
terms of being eugenic, BYU is the gate”.
When Dutton asked him why outsiders should be interested in
Mormonism, Dolan said: “I think we actually are going to win. I
think we’re going to inherit the earth.”[/quote]
The only way to stop them is to physically exterminate them
ASAP, starting with everyone attending this conference. If they
are this powerful now, how powerful will they be in just another
generation? Remember: their offspring will have every available
heritable competitive advantage over the rest of us while
simultaneously being the most evil people in the world! This is
what eugenics means! We cannot afford to wait. Where are the
leftist mass shooters FFS?! Why is there never a shortage of
rightists willing to sacrifice themselves to massacre ordinary
people (whom they nevertheless perceive to be dangerous):
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/rightist-mass-shootings/
but there never seem to be leftists willing to sacrifice
themselves to take down the most dangerous people currently
alive?
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Re: Exposing people with the Western Darwinian Worldview
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 14, 2023, 9:02 pm
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Recall:
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/when-history-is-written-by-leftists/
[quote]It is my contention that even among non-Jewish
Westerners, hostility towards Jews is judged more negatively
simply on account of Jews being known for their disproportionate
contribution to every field of Western civilization:
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/other/racial-jewishness-archive-from-true-left-forum/
so that hostility towards Jews is viewed (accurately!) as action
slowing Western progress
...
In contrast, the British Empire’s colonialism is viewed with
relatively mild revulsion because its colonies were territories
originally belonging to non-Western civilizations, hence
colonialism is subconsciously viewed (accurately!) by Westerners
as action to weaken the rivals of Western civilization, which is
comforting to Westerners’ sense of security. Ultimately,
Westerners judge everything by whether it advances or retards
Western progress[/quote]
An enemy explains the real reason why Westerners do not mind
Palestinians being killed anywhere near as much as they mind
Jews being killed:
HTML https://www.emilkirkegaard.com/p/palestinians-in-your-country-what
[quote]With a war looming and probably lots of Palestinian
refugee applications on the horizon, I thought it would be wise
to summarize what we have so far about them.
...
A study of the IQ in Palestine. Intelligence, 2014, vol.
47, p. 10-11.
The Coloured Progressive Matrices (CPM) was standardized in
Palestine in 2011 on a sample of 257 children aged 6.0 to 11.5
years, tested individually. The sample obtained a British IQ of
85.
...
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...
Standard Progressive Matrices (SPM) was standardized in the
Gaza Strip in 2012-13 on a sample of 1677 boys and 1818 girls
aged 8 to 18 years. The sample obtained a British IQ of 67.9.
The result is discussed in the context of living conditions in
Gaza.
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Various other proxy methods, like studying the Arabs in Israel,
also produced values around 85 IQ, so somewhere around 70-85 IQ,
but we don't know exactly where. Let's optimistically adopt the
85 value. This is about the same IQ as the African Americans.
Insofar as intelligence is the chief cause of social inequality
between groups, one should expect them to attain roughly equal
outcomes. If we admit that radical Islam and war traumas are
additional problems, performance will probably be somewhat lower
than African Americans.
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What can we expect from Jewish immigrants?
...
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates[/quote]
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More about Kirkegaard:
HTML https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Emil_O._W._Kirkegaard
[quote]global-warming denier, anti-feminist, ableist,
anti-vegan, homophobe, Islamophobe, transphobe, and has promoted
white supremacy.[16][17][18][19][20][21]
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he wants to ban refugees entering Denmark.[44]
Openly a sexist, Kirkegaard supports "policies that reduce
[female] higher education" to raise "fertility rates in the
West".[45]
...
Kirkegaard thinks white families should be having at least four
children and supports the pro-natalism policies of Viktor Orbán
who promised that Hungarian women who have four or more children
will never pay income tax again.[126][127]
...
Kirkegaard is a self-described eugenicist and claims that,
without it, Western civilisation will be destroyed
...
Kirkegaard is a capitalist and views immigration mainly in terms
of net-economics such as fiscal contribution he links to
intelligence.[142][143][144]
He therefore opposes who he considers "low skilled" and "low-IQ"
immigrants as well as refugees into Western countries, namely
Denmark and Sweden
...
Kirkegaard wants to end homosexuality in the future through
eugenics by selecting for heterosexual children
...
Kirkegaard has praised Einstein not for his scientific
accomplishments, but his alleged xenophobic[209] views
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Kirkegaard is a member of the right-wing Technologipartiet whose
website claims it opposes multiculturalism, opposes gender
equality laws and wants to decommission the Ministry of Gender
Equality in Denmark.[225] The Technologipartiet promotes nuclear
power, "including experiments with thorium-based versions and
fusion when the time comes" and wants to avoid "wasting money on
expensive renewable energy". One of its strangest policies is
providing state aid for embryo selection or "eugenics
biotechnology".
Kirkegaard supports a number of right-wing populist to far-right
parties, including the Sweden Democrats.[226]
[/quote]
He also looks like what we would expect:
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