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Re: Racial View of Western Philosopher from John Locke to Karl
Marx
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: October 26, 2023, 1:53 am
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Theodore Roosevelt
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> Well-born, impeccably educated, and a master communicator,
Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919) never lost sight of race as the
driving force of human history. especially of his American
race." (See figure 17,1, Theodore Roosevelt.) In books and
articles throughout his public life, Roosevelt could alter his
emphases depending on the political context, but he was always a
leading race thinker of his times.􀅛 And he got started
early.
>
> As a youngster, Roosevelt admired the heroics depicted in
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's 􀁔Saga of King Olaf' in
Tales of a Wayside Inn (1863). During a summer in Dresden,
Germany, when he was fourteen, Roosevelt was exposed to the
Nibelungenlied (that pagan German saga of Siegfried the dragon
slayer), deepening his sense of Teutonic heritage.􀄧
Later, as an undergraduate at Harvard, he absorbed the ideas of
American racial greatness and immigrant inferiority from
Professor Nathaniel Southgate Shaler of Kentucky and came to
agree with Shaler on a popular tenet of American race talk. Like
so many other old-line Americans, Roosevelt easily saw the
figure of this tall, slender Kentuckian as the quintessential
native American. And in graduate studies at Columbia, Roosevelt
also absorbed the Teutonist notions of John W. Burgess, another
conservative admirer of all things German.
--- End Quote ---
Source :
The History of White People by Nell Irvin Painter page 174
John Fiske (philosopher)
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> John Fiske (March 30, 1842 – July 4, 1901) was an American
philosopher and historian. He was heavily influenced by Herbert
Spencer and applied Spencer's concepts of evolution to his own
writings on linguistics, philosophy, religion, and history.[1]
>
> ...
>
> Nineteenth-century enthusiasm for brain size as a simple
measure of human performance, championed by scientists including
Darwin's cousin Francis Galton and the French neurologist Paul
Broca, led Fiske to believe in the racial superiority of the
"Anglo-Saxon race".
--- End Quote ---
More about John Fiske
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> The lawyer, philosopher, and social Darwinist historian John
Fiske, the leading American popularizer of Anglo-Saxonism, held,
"We New Englanders are the offsprings of Alfred's England," but
nonetheless, we the English-are at least three-quarters Celtic .
. .. I believe that in blood, we are quite as near to the French
as to the German-probably more so."
--- End Quote ---
Source :
The History of White People by Nell Irvin Painter page 176
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Re: Racial View of Western Philosopher from John Locke to Karl
Marx
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: October 27, 2023, 11:48 am
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F. Scott Fitzgerald
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> Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald (September 24, 1896 – December
21, 1940) was an American novelist, essayist, and short story
writer.
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Source :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._Scott_Fitzgerald
About his novel content :
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> EVEN IN politics, a silver lining peeped through. While a
Democratic Part)' fight over the 1924 anti-Klan plank had been
long and hard, many a delegate, even from the South, had proved
ready to denounce the Klan by name. The effort had failed, but
by only one vote. The 1920 Democratic candidate for vice
president, Franklin Roosevelt of New York, had coordinated the
Smith forces, struggling about the floor of Madison Square
Garden on crutches after a bout with polio. Four years later,
Democrats did nominate the Catholic Al Smith. Fiction, as we =
have seen, also faced the question of "alien races," as in F.
Scott Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby.
>
> "Civilization' s going to pieces," broke out Tom violently.
"I've gotten to be a terrible pessimist about things. Have you
read The Rise of the Colored Empires by this man Goddard?"
>
> "Why no," I answered, rather surprised by his tone.
>
> 􀁣Well, it's a fine book, and everybody ought to read
it. The idea is if we don't look out the white race will be
utterly submerged, It's all scientific stuff; it's been proved,"
>
> 􀁣Tom's getting very profound," said Daisy, with an
expression of unthoughtful sadness. "He reads deep books with
long words in them. What was that word we--"
>
> 􀁣Well, these books are all scientific," insisted Tom,
glancing at her impatiently. 􀁣This fellow has worked
out the whole thing. It's up to us, who are the dominant race,
to watch out or these other races will have control of things."
>
> 􀁣We've got to beat them down," whispered Daisy,
winking ferociously toward the fervent sun . . ..
>
> 􀁣This idea is that we're Nordics. I am, and you are,
and you are, and--" After an infinitesimal hesitation he
included Daisy with a slight nod, and she winked at me again.
"-And we've produced all the things that go to make
civilization-oh, science and art, and all that. Do you
see?"􀂟
--- End Quote ---
Source :
The History of White People by Nell Irvin Painter page 244 - 245
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Re: Racial View of Western Philosopher from John Locke to Karl
Marx
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 27, 2023, 3:01 pm
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It is dangerous to assert that novelists believe what some of
their characters believe, especially if those characters are not
portrayed in a particularly positive light. I would consider
this to be the case in the passage you quoted, where Tom and
Daisy are quite clearly presented as morons just from the way
they speak. If anything, it is a jab at Goddard fans.
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Re: Racial View of Western Philosopher from John Locke to Karl
Marx
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: October 27, 2023, 9:27 pm
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Charles Lindbergh
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> As a resumption of the European war loomed in 1939, Lindbergh
published a screamingly racist article in Readers ' Digest, in
which he cited aviation as "another barrier between the teeming
millions of Asia and the Grecian inheritance of Europe . .
.priceless possessions which permit the White race to live at
all in a pressing sea of Yellow, Black, and Brown . . . . We,
the heirs of European culture, are on the verge of a disastrous
war, a war within our own family of nations, a war which will
reduce the strength and destroy the treasures of the White race
.
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Source :
The History of White People page 247
About Charles Lindbergh
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> Charles Augustus Lindbergh (February 4, 1902 – August 26,
1974) was an American aviator and military officer.
>
> ...
>
> In the months before the United States entered World War II,
Lindbergh's non-interventionist stance and statements about Jews
and race led some to believe he was a Nazi sympathizer, although
Lindbergh never publicly stated support for the Nazis and
condemned them several times in both his public speeches and
personal diary.
>
> ...
>
> Lindbergh's reaction to the Kristallnacht was entrusted to his
diary: "I do not understand these riots on the part of the
Germans", he wrote. "It seems so contrary to their sense of
order and intelligence. They have undoubtedly had a difficult
'Jewish problem', but why is it necessary to handle it so
unreasonably?"[197]...
>
> ...
>
> Lindbergh's anticommunism resonated deeply with many
Americans, while his pro-eugenics views and Nordicism enjoyed
social acceptance.[206] His speeches and writings reflected his
adoption of views on race, religion, and eugenics, similar to
those of the German Nazis, and he was suspected of being a Nazi
sympathizer.[218][219] However, during a speech in September
1941, Lindbergh stated "no person with a sense of the dignity of
mankind can condone the persecution of the Jewish race in
Germany."[220] Interventionist pamphlets pointed out that his
efforts were praised in Nazi Germany and included quotations
such as "Racial strength is vital; politics, a luxury."[221]
>
> ...
>
> Lindbergh seemed to state that he believed the survival of the
white race was more important than the survival of democracy in
Europe: "Our bond with Europe is one of race and not of
political ideology," he declared.[224] Critics have noticed an
apparent influence on Lindbergh of German philosopher Oswald
Spengler.[225] Spengler was a conservative authoritarian popular
during the interwar period, though he had fallen out of favor
with the Nazis because he had not wholly subscribed to their
theories of racial purity.[225]
>
> Lindbergh developed a long-term friendship with the automobile
pioneer Henry Ford, who was well known for his antisemitic
newspaper The Dearborn Independent. In a famous comment about
Lindbergh to Detroit's former FBI field office special agent in
charge in July 1940, Ford said: "When Charles comes out here, we
only talk about the Jews."[226][227]
>
> Lindbergh considered Russia a "semi-Asiatic" country compared
to Germany, and he believed Communism was an ideology that would
destroy the West's "racial strength" and replace everyone of
European descent with "a pressing sea of Yellow, Black, and
Brown". He stated that if he had to choose, he would rather see
America allied with Nazi Germany than Soviet Russia. He
preferred Nordics, but he believed, after Soviet Communism was
defeated, Russia would be a valuable ally against potential
aggression from East Asia.[225][228]
>
> Lindbergh elucidated his beliefs regarding the white race in a
1939 article in Reader's Digest:
>
> We can have peace and security only so long as we band
together to preserve that most priceless possession, our
inheritance of European blood, only so long as we guard
ourselves against attack by foreign armies and dilution by
foreign races.[229]
>
> Lindbergh said certain races have "demonstrated superior
ability in the design, manufacture, and operation of
machines",[230] and that "The growth of our western civilization
has been closely related to this superiority."[231] Lindbergh
admired "the German genius for science and organization, the
English genius for government and commerce, the French genius
for living and the understanding of life". He believed, "in
America they can be blended to form the greatest genius of
all".[232]
>
> Lindbergh's Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer, A. Scott Berg,
contended that Lindbergh was not so much a supporter of the Nazi
regime as someone so stubborn in his convictions and relatively
inexperienced in political maneuvering that he easily allowed
rivals to portray him as one. Lindbergh's receipt of the Order
of the German Eagle, presented in October 1938 by
Generalfeldmarschall Hermann Göring on behalf of Führer Adolf
Hitler, was approved without objection by the American embassy.
Lindbergh returned to the United States in early 1939 to spread
his message of nonintervention. Berg contended Lindbergh's views
were commonplace in the United States in the interwar era.
Lindbergh's support for the America First Committee was
representative of the sentiments of a number of American
people.[234]
>
> Berg also noted:
>
> "As late as April 1939‍—‌after Germany overtook
Czechoslovakia‍—‌Lindbergh was willing to make
excuses for Adolf Hitler. 'Much as I disapprove of many things
Hitler had done', he wrote in his diary on April 2, 1939, 'I
believe she [Germany] has pursued the only consistent policy in
Europe in recent years. I cannot support her broken promises,
but she has only moved a little faster than other nations ... in
breaking promises. The question of right and wrong is one thing
by law and another thing by history.'"
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Source :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Lindbergh
Woodburn: U.S. Army Then-Now-Forever 1940. – Meehan Military
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Re: Racial View of Western Philosopher from John Locke to Karl
Marx
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: October 27, 2023, 10:55 pm
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--- Quote ---
> FROM ST. Jean de Crvecoeur in 1782 to Horace Kallen in 1915
and into the late 1930s, to speak of American "races" was to
speak of Americans of Jewish, Slavic, Italian, Irish, German,
and, even, "Anglo-Saxon" and "Teutonic" background, identities
assumed to be more or less permanent. Black people were
relegated to a separate and lower racial compartment along with
Native American Indians and Asians, not entirely American, if
not completely alien. The American was a figure of European
heritage.
>
> ...
>
> Much-too much-of 1940s American culture stayed stuck in the
racist 1920s, although some code words fell out of fashion. The
roots of "Nordic" in Madison Grant' s Nazi-like eugenics
disabled it for use in the 1940s. Prewar names of the categories
of dolichocephalic and brachycephalic also disappeared, though
FBI "wanted" posters and mug shots continued to depict
miscreants in profile as well as full-face. The shape of the
head, it seems, still said a good deal. Nor did the cephalic
index fade as in the American's ideal face shape-the
dolichocephalic, long-headed oval of Norman Rockwell's
quintessential Americans, rather than the brachycephalic square
or round. Be tall, be blue-eyed, and, if a woman, be blond.
--- End Quote ---
Source :
The History of White People by Nell Irvin Painter page 251, 257
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Re: Racial View of Western Philosopher from John Locke to Karl
Marx
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 27, 2023, 11:09 pm
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> Black people were relegated to a separate and lower racial
compartment along with Native American Indians and Asians
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> ideal face shape-the dolichocephalic, long-headed oval of
Norman Rockwell's quintessential Americans, rather than the
brachycephalic square or round.
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Considering dolicocephaly superior is correct. But no one who
considers dolicocephaly superior should consider "non-whites"
inferior:
[img]
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Re: Racial View of Western Philosopher from John Locke to Karl
Marx
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: October 31, 2023, 6:34 am
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Francis Galton
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> Sir Francis Galton FRS FRAI
(/ˈɡɔːltən/; 16 February 1822 – 17
January 1911) was a British polymath and the originator of the
eugenics movement during the Victorian era.[1][2]
>
> ...
>
> Galton was knighted in 1909 for his contributions to
science.[10] In recent years, he has received significant
criticism for being a proponent of social Darwinism, eugenics,
and scientific racism; he was a pioneer of eugenics, coining the
term itself in 1883.
>
> ...
>
> ...According to an editorial in Nature: "Galton also
constructed a racial hierarchy, in which white people were
considered superior. He wrote that the average intellectual
standard of the negro race is some two grades below our own (the
Anglo Saxon)."[25] According to the Encyclopedia of Genocide,
Galton bordered on the justification of genocide when he stated:
"There exists a sentiment, for the most part quite unreasonable,
against the gradual extinction of an inferior race."[26]
--- End Quote ---
Sumber :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Galton
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Re: Racial View of Western Philosopher from John Locke to Karl
Marx
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: October 31, 2023, 7:21 am
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Georges Cuvier
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> Racial studies by Georges Cuvier (1769–1832), the French
naturalist and zoologist, influenced both
[color=red][b]scientific polygenism and scientific
racism.[/b][/color] Cuvier believed there were three distinct
races: the Caucasian (white), Mongolian (yellow), and the
Ethiopian (black). He rated each for the beauty or ugliness of
the skull and quality of their civilizations. Cuvier wrote about
Caucasians: “The white race, with oval face, straight hair and
nose, to which the civilised people of Europe belong, and which
appear to us the most beautiful of all, is also superior to
others by its genius, courage, and activity.”[60]
>
> Regarding Negroes, Cuvier wrote:[61]
>
> The Negro race … is marked by black complexion, crisped or
woolly hair, compressed cranium, and a flat nose. The projection
of the lower parts of the face, and the thick lips, evidently
approximate it to the monkey tribe: the hordes of which it
consists have always remained in the most complete state of
barbarism.
--- End Quote ---
Source :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism#Racial_theories_in_physical_anthropology_(1850%E2%80%931918)
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Re: Racial View of Western Philosopher from John Locke to Karl
Marx
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: October 31, 2023, 7:35 am
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Franz Ignaz Pruner
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> Franz Ignaz Pruner (8 March 1808 – 29 September 1882); known
as Pruner Bey during his stay in Egypt, was a German physician,
ophthalmologist and anthropologist who was a native of Pfreimd,
Oberpfalz.
>
> ...
>
> Pruner studied the racial structure of Negros in Egypt. In a
book which he wrote in 1846 he claimed that Negro blood had a
negative influence on the Egyptian moral character. He published
a monograph on Negros in 1861. He claimed that the main feature
of the Negros skeleton is prognathism, which he claimed was
Negros relation to the ape. He also claimed that Negros had very
similar brains to apes and that Negros have a shortened big toe
which is a character which connects the Negros close to apes.[1]
--- End Quote ---
Sumber :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Ignaz_Pruner
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Re: Racial View of Western Philosopher from John Locke to Karl
Marx
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: November 2, 2023, 7:31 am
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Arthur Keith
--- Quote ---
> Sir Arthur Keith FRS[1] FRAI (5 February 1866 – 7 January
1955) was a British anatomist and anthropologist, and a
proponent of scientific racism. He was a fellow and later the
Hunterian Professor and conservator of the Hunterian Museum of
the Royal College of Surgeons of England.[2][3] He was a strong
proponent of Piltdown Man, but finally conceded it to be a
forgery shortly before his death.[4]
>
> ...
>
> ...In 1931, with John Walter Gregory, he delivered the annual
Conway Hall lecture entitled Race as a Political Factor. The
lecture contained as its abstract: The three primary racial
groups within the human species are the Caucasian, mongoloid and
negroid. From analogy with cross-breeding in animals and plants,
and from experience of human cross-breeding, it can be asserted
that inter-marriage between members of the three groups produces
inferior progeny. Hence racial segregation is to be recommended.
However, the different races can still assist, and co-operate
with, each other, in the interests of peace and harmony.[16]
--- End Quote ---
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Keith
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