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Re: Arctic alliance
By: rp Date: May 5, 2024, 7:19 pm
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"Because India and Iran are not cold enough to begin with and
thus fail even the explicitly stated Arctic Alliance criterion."
Ok. Would you agree then that Northern/Turanized Chinese are
closer to "Whites" than Turanized Indiana/Iranians/etc?
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Re: Arctic alliance
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 5, 2024, 7:31 pm
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It depends on what trait we are looking at. In terms of lactose
tolerance, probably not:
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In terms of meat-eating, probably:
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height=719]
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Re: Arctic alliance
By: rp Date: May 5, 2024, 7:51 pm
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I consider meat eating a more non Aryan trait than lactose
intolerance, as I theorize the former almost always (although
there are exceptions) correlates with the non Aryan personality
trait of viewing non humans as food, whereas the lactose
tolerant person may consume dairy, but if they are biologically
a heritable vegetarian, they can be converted to veganism
(although there is still a degree of racial inferiority as many
of them have grown accustomed to the taste of (mostly Western)
dairy products). As I mentioned, there are exceptions, as the
meat eater may also recognize the sentience of non humans and
wish to stop consuming them, but cannot quit meat due to taste
reasons.
With that aside, I meant more similar to "Whites" in terms of
machinism, and other aspects of Western Civilization. I don't
see India as machinistically enthusiastic as China, for example,
although I am open to disagreement.
Or is the "White" theory of convergent evolution with "Yellows"
(even when applied exclusively to Northern Chinese) mostly BS?
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Re: Arctic alliance
By: rp Date: May 5, 2024, 8:05 pm
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To elaborate on the last post, I meant similarity in terms of
explicit personality traits (e.g. machinism/cunning) rather than
biological traits.
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Re: Arctic alliance
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 5, 2024, 8:29 pm
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"I don't see India as machinistically enthusiastic as China, for
example, although I am open to disagreement."
Yes, but how much of this is cultural and/or economic rather
than genetic is uncertain for now. If India and China had
roughly equal GDP, a direct comparison between their machinism
spending could be meaningful. But in reality at present:
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height=956]
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so now is not a good time to compare. If you compare back in the
20th century when their GDPs were more similar, the China at
that time would not have appeared much more machinistically
enthusiastic than India, surely?
"Or is the "White" theory of convergent evolution with "Yellows"
(even when applied exclusively to Northern Chinese) mostly BS?"
There may be something to the wheat vs rice theory:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/temperature-effects/msg24248/#msg24248
in which case we could expect wheat-growing societies to evolve
convergently. But this divide also exists in India:
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height=1280]
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so the hypothetical convergence could include wheat-growing
Indians also.
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Re: Arctic alliance
By: rp Date: May 5, 2024, 9:52 pm
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"so now is not a good time to compare. If you compare back in
the 20th century when their GDPs were more similar, the China at
that time would not have appeared much more machinistically
enthusiastic than India, surely?"
Good point. It is worth noting that India has a space program,
but the rationale used to justify it is that it is what makes a
country a "serious world power" not recognizing the underlying
implicit Western assumption in their statement (progress). I
suppose China uses similar arguments to justify their own
machinistic endeavors in the present day, which gives me hope
that they are not a lost case and can be redeemed.
"There may be something to the wheat vs rice theory:"
Would you say wheat farmers are less Aryan than rice farmers?
It is worth noting that wheat and rice are both Aryan crops. As
a south Indian myself, I grew up eating rice, but also like
wheat. Of course, I will accept that the differences in
cultivation may create different selective evolutionary
pressure.
I am a bit confused because I have seen you express a much more
unfavourable view of northern China than north India. In pop
culture, for example, Bollywood (although based in Maharashtra)
is mostly dominated by North Indians, but I don't see any
inferiority in North Indian music compared to South Indian
music. Although this could be attributed to the cosmopolitan
nature of Maharashtra as opposed to North Indians.
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Re: Arctic alliance
By: rp Date: May 5, 2024, 10:50 pm
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Another point regarding GDP: It is not just machinism that is
bolstered by economic growth, but meat consumption as well. I
would expect some of the vegetarians in the Turanized North
Indian states to increase their meat consumption as meat becomes
more affordable. Already, we have seen an increase in milk
consumption in North India thanks to the so called "White
Revolution" (although South India was also affected by this).
Perhaps this was due to lactose tolerance, and meat consumption
would remain low due to vegetarian genetics, but it remains to
be seen.
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Re: Arctic alliance
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 6, 2024, 12:06 am
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"Would you say wheat farmers are less Aryan than rice farmers?"
Not because they are wheat farmers, but because in reality the
wheat farmers unfortunately (through no fault of their own) tend
to be located nearer to the steppe and hence are likely to have
more Turanian blood.
If we compare them with similarly steppe-proximate rice farmers
only, I would expect the disparity to disappear.
"I am a bit confused because I have seen you express a much more
unfavourable view of northern China than north India."
Yes, because the former is much more closely adjacent to the
steppe (not to mention eats much more meat):
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Map_of_the_Eurasian_steppe_belt.png
#Post#: 26589--------------------------------------------------
Re: Arctic alliance
By: antihellenistic Date: May 28, 2024, 8:19 am
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Result of dissemination of western competitive norms (Kantian
and Nietzschean ethics)
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Re: Arctic alliance
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 28, 2024, 5:58 pm
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Kantian ethics are neither pro-competition nor anti-competition.
Kant advocates:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantian_ethics
[quote]Act only in accordance with that maxim through which you
can at the same time will that it become a universal
law.[/quote]
So someone who likes competition will compete (because they
would want everyone to compete), while someone who dislikes
competition will not compete (because they would want everyone
to not compete).
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