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Re: False Leftists getting leftism wrong
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 4, 2023, 5:36 pm
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The False Left narrative is that Western civilization is
beautiful but evil:
HTML https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/25/magazine/vermeer-beauty-brutality.html
[quote]Seeing Beyond the Beauty of a Vermeer
...
The name Vermeer is, by now, a shorthand for artistic excellence
and so much of the praise for the exhibition sounded like
emotional shorthand too. Greatness, perfection, sublimity: the
appropriate vocabulary for a certain kind of cultural
experience.
...
… In his perceptive book “Vermeer’s Hat” (2008), the historian
Timothy Brook draws out some of the global provenances of the
things we see in Vermeer’s paintings. He suggests, for instance,
that the silver on the table in the “Woman Holding a Balance”
could have had its origin in the notorious Potosí silver mine, a
hellish place run on the labor of enslaved people in what was
then Peru and is now Bolivia. The felt lining the hat of the
soldier in “Officer and Laughing Girl” almost certainly came
from beaver pelts sourced by French adventurers from the violent
trade networks of 17th-century Canada.
… The beddejak in “Woman in Blue Reading a Letter,” Martine
tells me, is painted with ultramarine, the rarest and most
expensive of the blue pigments that would have been available to
a 17th-century Dutch painter. Ultramarine was made from lapis
lazuli, which was imported into Western Europe from Afghan mines
… But who was mining the lapis lazuli in Afghanistan and under
what conditions?
… If real, the pearls would have been harvested by pearl divers
in the Gulf of Mannar, between present day Sri Lanka and India.
In her right hand is a quill pen, paused. Underneath it, a
streak of white paint perfectly denotes a sheaf of white paper.
The ornate writing box, of different kinds of wood and with
round metal studs, is most likely from Goa under Portuguese
rule. Made by whom? I found myself asking again. Under what
conditions?
[/quote]
The True Left narrative, in contrast, is that Western
civilization is ugly as well as evil. Beauty? What beauty? Here
are some Vermeer paintings. There is no beauty here (anyone who
thinks there is (e.g. False Leftists) is still aesthetically a
Westerner):
[img width=1080
height=1280]
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Johannes_Vermeer_-_A_Lady_and_Two_Gentlemen_-_WGA24639.jpg[/img]
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Vermeer_Lady_Maidservant_Holding_Letter.jpg/896px-Vermeer_Lady_Maidservant_Holding_Letter.jpg
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Jan_Vermeer_-_The_Art_of_Painting_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg/862px-Jan_Vermeer_-_The_Art_of_Painting_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Johannes_Vermeer_-_The_Astronomer_-_1668.jpg/901px-Johannes_Vermeer_-_The_Astronomer_-_1668.jpg
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Johannes_Vermeer_-_The_Geographer_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg/913px-Johannes_Vermeer_-_The_Geographer_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Woman_writing_a_letter%2C_with_her_maid%2C_by_Johannes_Vermeer.jpg/843px-Woman_writing_a_letter%2C_with_her_maid%2C_by_Johannes_Vermeer.jpg
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Vermeer_The_Allegory_of_the_Faith.jpg/791px-Vermeer_The_Allegory_of_the_Faith.jpg
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Lady_Seated_at_a_Virginal%2C_Vermeer%2C_The_National_Gallery%2C_London.jpg/913px-Lady_Seated_at_a_Virginal%2C_Vermeer%2C_The_National_Gallery%2C_London.jpg
False Leftism admires the products of Western civilization while
disliking the attitudes that produced them. (I have also pointed
this out in the past with Western classical music (which False
Leftists are frequently fans of) and other fields.) This is an
internal contradiction that keeps leftism weak and confused.
Only switching to True Leftism will give leftism the internal
consistency that it needs to reach its full potential.
False Leftists remind me of those racially inferior vegans who
actually love the taste of meat etc. and who every day have to
resist the strong temptation to eat it. While of course they
should remain vegan, they are not the ones who should be leading
veganism. Veganism should be led by racial vegans. Similarly,
leftism should be led by the aesthetically non-Western (ie. True
Leftists).)
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Re: False Leftists getting leftism wrong
By: 2ThaSun Date: June 4, 2023, 7:45 pm
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[quote]False Leftists remind me of those racially inferior
vegans who actually love the taste of meat etc. and who every
day have to resist the strong temptation to eat it. While of
course they should remain vegan, they are not the ones who
should be leading veganism. Veganism should be led by racial
vegans. Similarly, leftism should be led by the aesthetically
non-Western (ie. True Leftists).)[/quote]
This is why the majority of humans could only be considered
Aryan postmortem granted that they never reproduced themselves,
and why all human-beings could never be considered Aryan
postmortem even if they do not reproduce themselves.
I think there is also something to be said for the humans that
do not like to eat but feel like they must and whom have perhaps
eaten meat in the past prior to awakening to the evil of
Yahweh's world, yet really never enjoyed food of any kind at all
to begin with? As an example, eating and having to use a toilet
has only ever been a hassle for myself, I'd rather not do either
at all. A small caveat for myself as of late though has been the
fact that I really enjoy mushrooms and onions fried in olive
oil. If I could survive on that alone I probably would!
I often feel like having to use a toilet degrades my spirit,
especially after I had my spiritual awakening....
(The paintings you posted remind me of the first computer game a
friend made me watch him play, the game was called
Phantasmagoria:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantasmagoria_(video_game)
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Re: False Leftists getting leftism wrong
By: SirGalahad Date: June 4, 2023, 9:20 pm
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Those paintings can basically be entirely replicated through
photography. What feelings are they supposed to stir in me,
other than the ones I already experience on a second by second
basis by ALREADY LIVING IN the material world that these
paintings are a 1:1 recreation of? Paintings that serve purely
as demonstrations of skill with a brush are just
self-mastvrbation, regardless of how much westerners want to
hype them up
@2ThaSun “As an example, eating and having to use a toilet has
only ever been a hassle for myself”
Yeah, something about having to prepare myself an entire
nutritionally balanced meal, eat it, and then do the exact same
thing all over again like 5 hours later, and do that 2 to 3
times a day, every day, for the rest of my life, stresses me
out. It also just feels like a massive waste of time. And it
makes me wonder how bodybuilders and people who just generally
workout a lot, deal with that ****. Because they have to eat way
more than I currently do, just to maintain their current weight,
and then maintain all the additional muscle they’re carrying.
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Re: False Leftists getting leftism wrong
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 4, 2023, 10:30 pm
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"I think there is also something to be said for the humans that
do not like to eat"
I understand what you are saying, but a low general enthusiasm
in something makes a person's preference within that field
harder to see. I would always rather be able to see the
preference clearly. In the case of food, it is possible for
someone to not like food in general but nevertheless prefer
meat/dairy/etc.. However, they would exude the illusion of
liking meat/dairy/etc. less than someone else who also prefers
meat/dairy/etc. but who has higher enthusiasm towards food
overall. Thus the low-food-enthusiasm racial non-vegan is more
likely to fly under the radar and even be mistaken for a racial
vegan by insufficiently alert observers.
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internet culture is f**king nauseating
By: 2ThaSun Date: June 13, 2023, 5:24 pm
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internet culture is f**king nauseating
[quote]Discussing the exhaustive aspects & various issues of
internet culture through the lens of gender discourse. (A
culture you don’t need to partake in)
The original version of this video was very different a year ago
but the goal remained the same; de-radicalize the viewer.
[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PujpBLcVLw
(Have not listened to this in it's entirety at time of posting).
@1:30 in the narrator states that tribalism is the idea of
"you're either with me or against me", this is not tribalism.
Tribalism is simply the in-group versus out-group dichotomy on
steroids. For example, a "black" passing person could be a self
described pro-"white", but this does not mean that the "white"
tribe will necessarily accept that "black" passing person into
the "white" tribe.
Furthermore, what is negative in regards to being a radical,
especially if you are certain the truth is on your side and you
can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt?:
[quote]Radical adjective
1. (especially of change or action) relating to or affecting the
fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough.
2. advocating or based on thorough or complete political or
social change; representing or supporting an extreme or
progressive section of a political party.[/quote]
HTML https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=radical
I would argue that internet culture is nauseating because so
many people believe they walk in truth, yet have not even taken
time to look up some of the words they use to attempt to
persuade others that what they speak is nothing but truth, nor
have they taken the time to really think things through.
Internet culture is nauseating to myself because it's full of
human-beings behaving just like human-beings, spewing
lazy-brained arrogant ideas and disinformation as they have
always been, even long before there even was an internet.
Certainly modern human-beings behave this way more so than any
other time in human-being history though, just do an in depth
search of the "white" tribes attitudes toward African slavery if
you don't believe me, or their justification for Western
civilization and colonialism for that matter...
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Re: Leftist ideological camps in the big picture; Socialism, Mar
xism, True Leftism, etc.
By: antihellenistic Date: June 20, 2023, 10:57 pm
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Stalin's Betrayal to Marxism
[quote]The lyrics of the lullaby to Jimmy are sung in Russian,
Ukrainian, Yiddish, Uzbek and Georgian. One of the members of
the audience is a black American man dressed in a Soviet naval
officer's uniform with a white Russian wife, which was meant to
show that there is no racism in the Soviet Union.[/quote]
Circus (1936 film) - Wikipedia
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circus_(1936_film)
[quote]Yes, Stalin liked Circus. At the time, it was impossible
to release a movie that Stalin didn’t like. And Stalin was
watching Soviet movies before release, serving as the final
censor and sometimes overriding the previous decisions. For
example, Jolly Fellows, the preceding movie by director Grigory
Alexandrov, was released solely because Stalin liked it a lot
(some other Soviet officials held a different opinion).
Yes, Circus was Soviet propaganda aimed at Soviet people (“We
don’t have racism” blah-blah-blah), but it was more than that.
Alexandrov adored Hollywood filmmaking and making an American
woman the main character of his movie was his way of freeing
himself from the burden of showing perfect and boring Soviet
women, as the ideological pressure was getting stronger. - Boris
Ivanov, Studied History & Literature at Russian State University
for the Humanities
...
The movie was Stalin’s favorite and was the last one he saw
before he died.
...
American researcher Herbert Eargle said: "The scene in the
Circus is intended to show that the Soviet people are devoid of
racial prejudices. Of course, it was an attack against America.
- Brent Cooper, Trial and appellate counsel for Cooper & Scully
(1993–present)[/quote]
How true is it that Stalin liked the movie Circus (1936)? Was
the movie propaganda of the USSR? - Quora
HTML https://www.quora.com/How-true-is-it-that-Stalin-liked-the-movie-Circus-1936-Was-the-movie-propaganda-of-the-USSR
[quote]In the following years, a number of socialists began to
hold the view that the Soviet government was becoming a red
fascist state. Bruno Rizzi, an Italian Marxist and a founder of
the Communist Party of Italy who became an anti-Stalinist,
claimed in 1938 that "Stalinism [took on] a regressive course,
generating a species of red fascism identical in its
superstructural and choreographic features [with its Fascist
model]".[4]
...
In the US, Norman Thomas (who ran for president numerous times
under the Socialist Party of America banner), accused the Soviet
Union in the 1940s of decaying into Red fascism by writing:
"Such is the logic of totalitarianism", that "communism,
whatever it was originally, is today Red fascism".[12][13] In
the same period, the term was used by the New York
intellectuals, who were left-wing but sided against the Soviet
Union in the developing Cold War.[14]
During the period while the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact was in
force, Benito Mussolini positively reviewed Stalinism as having
transformed Soviet Bolshevism into a Slavic fascism.[20] Despite
ideological differences, Adolf Hitler admired Stalin and his
politics and believed that Stalin was in effect transforming
Soviet Bolshevism into a form of Nazism.[21] After being
opponents for most of the 1930s, the Soviet Union and Nazi
Germany signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in 1939 and remained
aligned for the first two years of World War II, until Hitler
broke it by invading the USSR in 1941.[22]
...
So many writers, for example Michael Geyer and Sheila
Fitzpatrick in Beyond Totalitarianism: Stalinism and Nazism
Compared (2009), as well as Alan Bullock in his Hitler and
Stalin: Parallel Lives, have noted the close similarities
between Stalinism and Nazism. Nevertheless, many of these
similarities were the result of totalitarian state power; not
ideology and practice. The very fact that the Hitler and Stalin
had total political/state power meant that they couldn’t help
but share much. However, in the case of Trotskyists or other
Leftists, it’s what they do and believe out of power which makes
them red fascists. Indeed, because the Trotskyists have never
had the total power which Stalin had, it was always going to be
the case that they would be 'anti-Stalinist'.
Despite all that, there is no problem with endorsing the
Stalinism-is-fascism idea. For example, it was indeed the case
that Benito Mussolini confidently reviewed Stalinism as having
transformed Soviet Bolshevism into a Russian fascism. Similarly,
despite ideological differences, Adolf Hitler admired Stalin and
his politics and believed that Stalin was in effect transforming
Soviet Bolshevism into a form of National Socialism. We must
also remember here that the Nazis themselves were National
Socialists and even today many Nazis and Leftists hate exactly
the same things: Zionists, capitalism, Jews, Das System,
parliamentary democracy, democracy, tradition, Israel, 'the New
World Order', the bankers, America, the multinationals, the
platonic Media and so on. Both Leftist and Nazis also promise
full employment, selfless and incorruptible leaders as well as,
yes, a New World Order (or, alternatively,
Utopia-by-other-names).[/quote]
Red Fascism by Paul Austin Murphy (July 2013)
HTML https://www.newenglishreview.org/articles/red-fascism/
Red fascism - Wikipedia (Last edited on 3 September 2021, at
11:14 (UTC).)
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_fascism
The conclusion :
Stalin =/= Marxism
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Re: False Leftists getting leftism wrong
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 24, 2023, 1:25 am
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False Left TYT demonstrates how clueless they are compared to us
on this topic:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP6_ixzzYrk
The truth is simple: rightists are on average higher in sexual
dimorphism than leftists. Therefore if you consider high sexual
dimorphism superior (as Pool undoubtedly does), you will
consider rightists typically better-looking, whereas if you
consider low sexual dimorphism superior (as we do, but as TYT
probably does not), you will consider leftists typically
better-looking.
False Leftists don't even know what their standards are, and
refuse to try to come up with clearly articulated standards. (My
impression, however, is that most False Leftists prefer high
sexual dimorphism just like rightists do. Similarly, plenty of
False Leftists like Western classical music, Western 3D
paintings, etc.. This is why they are so incompetent at making
leftism coherent: they enjoy the products of Western
civilization while being opposed to the very attitudes that were
the foundations for them.)
At least now we can laugh at Uygur for whom he considers
good-looking (10:54-11:00):
HTML https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2020/05/2020-04-07T193309Z_1450668770_RC2VZF9VLBIS_RTRMADP_3_HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS-USA-TRUMP-1024x660.jpg
Really?
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En9jYfYW8AA_k4T.jpg
If I were interviewing Ivanka, I (unlike False Leftist Uygur)
would have no problem telling her she is ugly, because by True
Left standards she is! My genuine self-awareness, in contrast to
Uygur's pathetic mess, consists of being able to predict that
rightists and even many False Leftists (including Uygur!) would
not consider her ugly even while I myself do.
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Re: False Leftists getting leftism wrong
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 25, 2023, 4:25 am
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HTML https://us.yahoo.com/entertainment/oppenheimer-sex-scene-controversy-florence-pugh-cillian-murphy-explained-indian-boycott-010031312.html
[quote]The 'Oppenheimer' sex scene controversy explained: 'A
direct assault on religious beliefs'
...
A topless Tatlock straddles Oppenheimer and then briefly
retreats mid-coitus to inspect the stocked bookshelves behind
her. She grabs the Bhagavad Gita, considered one of the most
sacred Indian-Hindu scriptures, and — impressed that Oppie can
speak multiple languages — makes him read the volume as she
climbs back on top of him and recommences intercourse. He reads
a passage that includes the famous verse: “Now I am become
death, the destroyer of worlds.”
...
Uday Mahurkar, a journalist and founder of the Save Culture Save
India Foundation, penned an open letter to Nolan shortly after
the film opened.
“It has come to our notice that the movie Oppenheimer contains a
scene which make a scathing attack on Hinduism. As per social
media reports, a scene in the movie shows a woman makes a man
read Bhagwad Geeta aloud while getting over him and doing sexual
intercourse. She is holding Bhagwad Geeta in one hand, and the
other hands seems to be adjusting the position of their
reproductive organs. The Bhagwad Geeta is one of the most
revered scriptures of Hinduism,” Mahurkar wrote, adding that the
scene represented “a direct assault on religious beliefs of a
billion tolerant Hindus, rather it amounts to waging a war on
the Hindu community and almost appears to be part of a larger
conspiracy by anti-Hindu forces.”[/quote]
I think it is a valuable scene precisely because it reflects the
typical early 20th-century Western attitudes towards non-Western
civilizations. It is Oppenheimer and Tatlock, and by extension
Allied personnel in general, who were waging war on Hinduism
(and everything else non-Western) during WWII. The film merely
exposes them doing so!
[quote]According to Variety, India’s minister for information
and broadcasting, Anurag Thakur, has since asked for the sex
scene to be removed from the film.[/quote]
To ask for the scene to be removed is equivalent to asking for a
confession by the criminal to be destroyed! No, we should want
the scene kept in precisely so that everyone can learn how
Westerners treat what is sacred to non-Westerners!
By the way:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer
[quote]J. Robert Oppenheimer was born into a non-observant[3]
Jewish family [/quote]
(The other main minds behind the invention of nukes were also
Jews, as previously covered here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/wmds/msg100/#msg100
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Re: False Leftists getting leftism wrong
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 15, 2023, 2:33 pm
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HTML https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/world/americas/brazil-barbie-xuxa.html
[quote]Like the famous doll, Xuxa, too, is thin, blond,
blue-eyed and white. On her children’s show, she often wore
short skirts and thigh-high boots as she stepped out of a
spaceship stamped with giant red lips. And like Barbie, she
became an idol to her fans, who grew up wanting to be just like
Xuxa and her all-white cast of teenage dancers, the “Paquitas.”
now Brazil is in the midst of its own real-life Barbie reckoning
of sorts—and Xuxa is at the center of it, thanks in part to a
new documentary series about her that has become a national
sensation and renewed questions over diversity, beauty standards
and sexualization in her show.
Many, including Xuxa herself, are questioning whether the narrow
ideal she represented was always a positive force in a country
with a majority Black population and where a national debate is
brewing over what is considered beautiful and who has been
erased from popular culture.
“I didn’t see it as wrong back then. Today, we know it’s wrong,”
Xuxa said of the beauty standard she portrayed to Brazil’s
youth.[/quote]
So far so good. Now get ready for the screwup:
[quote]Brazil and its cultural gatekeepers are embracing new
definitions of beauty that celebrate natural curls, curvaceous
bodies and darker skin tones.[/quote]
Why is anti-Eurocentrism yet again being conflated with fat
acceptance FFS?! Previously:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/false-leftists-getting-leftism-wrong/msg19094/#msg19094
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Re: False Leftists getting leftism wrong
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 16, 2023, 10:01 pm
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HTML https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/15ogo3x/we_shouldnt_abolish_genders_but_we_should_abolish/?utm_source=embedv2&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_content=action_bar
[quote]Society shouldn’t expect men to be masculine at
all[/quote]
I agree, but then the screwup begins:
[quote]We also should get rid of all masculine hierarchies so
that masculinity (or lack thereof) will have no impact on a
man’s social status. That way the most unmasculine men will be
seen as equals and treated with the same respect as the most
masculine men.[/quote]
Wrong. We should invert the hierarchy so that masculinity will
continue to have an impact on a man's social status, but in such
a way that the most unmasculine men will be seen as superiors
and treated with more respect than the most masculine men.
In fact, masculine men should be prohibited from reproducing.
[quote]We should strive for a society where unmasculine men are
seen and treated as equals to masculine men[/quote]
Why is it so hard for False Leftists to claim superiority over
those who currently have high status? They do not even claim
that unmasculine men are equal to masculine men; they merely ask
for unmasculine men to be seen and treated as equals to
masculine men. This is virtually an admission that they
themselves view unmasculine men as inferior to masculine men,
but merely want society to pretend otherwise as a way of being
polite. This is why False Leftism deserves no respect.
Unmasculine men are superior to masculine men. We are so
superior that Yahweh punishes us for our superiority by giving
the masculine men all kinds of competitive advantages. This is
True Leftism.
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/national-socialism-is-revolutionary-not-reactionary/msg10981/#msg10981
[quote]Throwing out egalitarianism from leftist thinking is what
we are here to do. True Leftism still believes in superiority
and inferiority; the difference is that we believe the superior
can be (and in reality are more often than not) defeated by the
inferior in worldly competition (the colonial era being one
example). In other words, True Leftism is divergence of the
moral hierarchy from the natural hierarchy.
Socialism is then the attempt, given awareness of the above, to
set things up in practice so as to help the superior (but less
competitive) defeat the inferior (but more competitive).
National Socialism furthermore believes that any such setup will
not last long, therefore the superior must use its brief
interval in power to destroy the inferior, or else the inferior
- being more competitive - will eventually find a way around the
setup to come back and win.[/quote]
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/nato-(north-atlantic-treaty-organization)/msg20745/#msg20745
[quote]Hitler explicitly dissociated “fittest” from “best”:
“The best nations – or, to speak more exactly, the only really
cultured nations, who at the same time are the chief bearers of
human progress – have decided, in their blind pacifism, to
refrain from the acquisition of new territory and to be content
with ‘internal colonization.’ But at the same time nations of
inferior quality succeed in getting hold of large spaces for
colonization all over the globe. … Should that state of affairs
continue, then the world will one day be possessed by that
portion of mankind which is culturally inferior but more active
and energetic.” – Adolf Hitler
This is in contrast to Churchill, who equated “better” with
“fitter”:
“I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done
to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia.
I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the
fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly
wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their
place.” – Winston Churchill (Jew)[/quote]
The colonizers are more masculine than the colonized. They are
also inferior.
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