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       Re: Facial Aryanism
       By: rp Date: February 22, 2023, 11:22 pm
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       "Overbite =/= Aryan teeth"
       Fine. But would you say overbite = neotenous appearance?
       Also, another thing I forgot to mention, the first heroine's jaw
       seems a little robust, irrespective of the gonial angle:
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       IMO ideally the jaw should be gracile as well in order to reduce
       its visibility, along with a good gonial angle. So the second
       heroine beats her in that department. I have noticed this in my
       own face: my right jaw bone is thicker than my left and as a
       result is more visible.
       Sure, she compares favourably to the other two actresses in the
       picture, but not so much to the second heroine in the older
       message.
       #Post#: 18093--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facial Aryanism
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 23, 2023, 12:09 am
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       "would you say overbite = neotenous appearance?"
       I never thought about it like that. Is it common for children
       who have overbite to automatically lose it as they grow up?
       "reduce its visibility"
       Visibility is a poor way to judge gracility, as faces with less
       fat will have more visible bone structure than faces with more
       fat. A better way to judge gracility is bone volume. If we could
       directly measure circumferences etc. this would be easy, but
       relying on photos and videos alone requires comparisons with
       other people in the same shot, which is what the exercise is
       for. I will wait for your response to the second part.
       #Post#: 18094--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facial Aryanism
       By: rp Date: February 23, 2023, 12:20 am
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       "I never thought about it like that. Is it common for children
       who have overbite to automatically lose it as they grow up?"
       I would think so. From my observation, puberty mostly results in
       lower jaw as oppsoed to upper jaw growth, but I could be wrong.
       " A better way to judge gracility is bone volume. "
       I agree. In my case, I was able to feel my jawbone, but this is
       impossible to do with the actress!
       #Post#: 18096--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facial Aryanism
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 23, 2023, 12:30 am
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       I am so awesome that I managed to find a third guy (note the
       subhuman brow ridge in the thumbnail) to use as a yardstick:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLTZcSyltIA
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYRy8bVe0Sg
       Who pairs worse with him?
       #Post#: 18097--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facial Aryanism
       By: rp Date: February 23, 2023, 12:42 am
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       I noticed the first heroine from the first exercise is present
       in the second video. Is she the one you want me to compare, or
       is it the other female character?
       #Post#: 18098--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facial Aryanism
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 23, 2023, 1:18 am
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       "I noticed the first heroine from the first exercise is present
       in the second video."
       All three parts of the exercise feature the same two heroines.
       That's the point!
       "Is she the one you want me to compare"
       In the first part, you have already said that you think Kwan
       facially pairs better with Tam (who is our first yardstick).
       In the remaining two parts, you should say who, Kwan or Chow,
       facially pairs better with Cheung (second yardstick) and Fong
       (third yardstick).
       #Post#: 18099--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facial Aryanism
       By: rp Date: February 23, 2023, 1:32 am
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       "All three parts of the exercise feature the same two heroines.
       That's the point!"
       Oh, ok! I just realized I misread the second part as "Same
       heroine paired with two different heroes" instead of "same two
       heroines paired with a different hero". I also didn't recognize
       Chow because of the hairstyle in the first video of the third
       exercise.
       To answer your question,in the third exercise, I believe Kwan
       pairs worse with him because he has such a short face. Despite
       the sharp contrast in gracility/neoteny between himself and
       Chow, the contrast in fwhr between Kwan and the hero is even
       sharper that it makes him look even more subhuman.
       It goes without saying that in both videos, Fong pairs much more
       favorably with the other female characters than with the
       respective heroines.
       #Post#: 18101--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facial Aryanism
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 23, 2023, 2:20 am
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       Although you have skipped over the second part (why??), even
       just using the first and third parts, no one (except Westerners)
       could possibly think that Fong is more highly evolved than Tam.
       Therefore, given your agreement that Chow pairs better with Fong
       whereas Kwan pairs better with Tam, the theoretical expectation
       should be that Kwan beats Chow.
       #Post#: 18102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facial Aryanism
       By: rp Date: February 23, 2023, 2:41 am
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       I intended to do it after the third since it was on a different
       page. That being said:
       [quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=1634.msg17638#msg17638
       date=1674521699]
       There is a second part to this exercise. Now we look at the same
       two heroines paired with a different hero. Previously posted:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/media-decolonization/msg16308/#msg16308
       [quote]
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuAaHqDmkNg[/quote]
       Posting for the first time:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80cZg8VEeIg
       Which is the (relatively) better match this time round (because
       both are actually terrible)? You can probably see where this is
       leading. By holding one variable constant at a time while
       changing the other (all the way to absurdity), a clearer picture
       will emerge.
       [/quote]
       Chow is the better match due to the fwhr.
       #Post#: 18103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facial Aryanism
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 23, 2023, 2:48 am
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       This should reinforce the previous conclusion, then?
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