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Re: Afghanistan
By: guest19 Date: November 25, 2022, 1:01 pm
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[quote]One does not need be an Aryanist to be a True Leftist,
just as one does not need be an Aryanist to be a National
Socialist.[/quote]
What's the difference between Aryanism and the true left? Is
Aryanism the racial Ideology and true left the political
Ideology?
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Re: Re: Afghanistan
By: guest78 Date: November 25, 2022, 3:11 pm
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[quote author=zizou9410 link=topic=204.msg16666#msg16666
date=1669402899]
[quote]One does not need be an Aryanist to be a True Leftist,
just as one does not need be an Aryanist to be a National
Socialist.[/quote]
What's the difference between Aryanism and the true left? Is
Aryanism the racial Ideology and true left the political
Ideology?[/quote]
National Socialists do believe in racial 'quality over
quantity'. However, we could technically remove this section:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/
and still have
a viable leftist political ideology for the contemporary world.
A person could also believe that all three groups,
hunter-gatherers, steppe-herders, and neolithic-farmers, were
all ignoble for example, and that there have yet to be quality
people to inhabit this planet, and still subscribe to the idea
of racial quality over quantity National Socialism adheres to.
Aryanism comes down to whether or not a person believes that the
neolithic-farmers that founded human civilization were in fact
the Noble One\Aryans whose foundations have been corrupted by
the other two groups, or not. This is why the mythology of
Aryanism goes so well with the racial quality ideas of National
Socialism too though. An Aryan National Socialist would argue
that the neolithic-farmer is who humanity should attempt to
racially emulate, while a National Socialist could simply argue
that we need a race of compassionate, efficient, and quality
humans, going forward without elevating the Aryans as a model
worth emulating.
90sRetroFan will be able to explain this much better than I ever
could. Hope I did not confuse you...
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Re: Re: Afghanistan
By: guest19 Date: November 25, 2022, 6:43 pm
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So then Aryanism's task is to identify an ideal human type and
try to produce this type of human in a future national
socialist state?
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Re: Re: Afghanistan
By: guest78 Date: November 25, 2022, 11:23 pm
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[quote author=zizou9410 link=topic=204.msg16674#msg16674
date=1669423408]
So then Aryanism's task is to identify an ideal human type and
try to produce this type of human in a future national
socialist state?[/quote]
Correct, whilst simultaneously preventing the non-ideal types
from reproducing.
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Re: Re: Afghanistan
By: guest19 Date: November 28, 2022, 12:06 pm
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Have you guys found the ideal ancient aryan type, or is there
still more research that needs to be done?
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Re: Re: Afghanistan
By: guest78 Date: November 28, 2022, 12:29 pm
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[quote author=zizou9410 link=topic=1612.msg16713#msg16713
date=1669658817]
Have you guys found the ideal ancient aryan type, or is there
still more research that needs to be done?[/quote]
They have. Ectomorph body type; oval face, soft facial features,
non-sloping forehead, the "long toe" longer than the "big toe",
a certain finger length ratio (Which I cannot remember
currently), and vegan.
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Re: Afghanistan
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 28, 2022, 1:22 pm
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"soft facial features"
We say "light" (as in not heavy), rather than "soft". The
difference between "light" and "soft" is the same as the
difference between neoteny and paedomorphy, or between
gracilization and reduction.
(Obviously non-Aryan) Aldrich has soft facial features:
[img width=1280
height=853]
HTML https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/anderson-aldrich-mughsot.jpg[/img]
Note the high sexual dimorphism (e.g. large facial hair area)
despite the paedomorphy. Genuine neoteny would lead to low
sexual dimorphism.
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Re: Afghanistan
By: guest78 Date: November 28, 2022, 1:55 pm
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I see your point. Aldrich certainly has soft facial feature....
;D
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Re: Afghanistan
By: guest19 Date: November 28, 2022, 5:55 pm
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[quote]or between gracilization and reduction.[/quote]
What is the difference between gracilization and reduction? Also
what is reduction?
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Re: Afghanistan
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 28, 2022, 6:39 pm
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"What is the difference between gracilization and reduction?
Also what is reduction?"
Gracilization is explained here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/aryan-bones/
Reduction is a concept that Zea_mays came up with:
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/the-obligatory-eye-candy-page/comment-page-1/#comment-20342
[quote]“Reduced” traits are more a result of environmental
pressure and thus are even less “race” (in the old
anthropometric sense) specific. Reduction is useful in climates
where it is difficult to both hunt/gather and farm, as it
lessens the need for caloric intake.
...
It is interesting to note the high sexual-dimorphism in many
Gentile groups, where females are more pedomorphic due to sexual
selection (again, another example proving that the signs of
youth are only feigned, all “sexy” or “voluptuous” women have a
pedomorphic face, while at the same time have exaggerated sexual
features!) and environmental pressure (i.e. the males hunted
while the females stayed behind (contrast to the low
sexual-dimorphism in Aryans where both genders farmed
together)).
Simon Elliot keeps talking about the Gentile beauty ideal which
favors high sexual-dimorphism (Would a pedomorphic male ideal
ever be supported?[/quote]
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/the-obligatory-eye-candy-page/comment-page-1/#comment-20549
[quote]Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough of this when writing my
post, but reduction is an evolutionary process which happens to
populations, meaning “full-sized” (e.g. “normal” robust or
archaic people) were _reduced_ so that their adult form
(“morphe”) became less markedly archaic or robust and more
child-like (“pais”) (or more specifically “baby-like”
(baby-faced)). Whereas with Aryan neoteny there was no
“base-population” that was then “neotenized,” as they _retained_
their youthful traits; they never were ‘archaic’ or ‘robust’ to
begin with. (How the ancient Aryans’ ancestral line evolved is a
mystery to both myself and science).
Pedomorphy cannot ‘return’ to Original Nobility because it is a
continuation of an evolutionary process on a population whose
ancestors were unreduced Gentiles.[/quote]
though for some reason I cannot at present find the page on
Aryan Anthropology covering this in detail with photographic
examples.
While gracilization does produce some smoothing (albeit by a
different mechanism than reduction), it is possible (though
rare) for a highly gracilized skull to nevertheless exhibit a
degree of hardness, for example:
[img width=1280
height=726]
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while still looking nothing like a robust skull (driver):
[img width=1280
height=726]
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