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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: SirGalahad Date: August 27, 2021, 5:28 pm
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[quote]Blood is important to us right? How does that translate
into letting just anyone from anywhere rule over Americans or
Germans or Arabs.[/quote]
Blood as in race. Not ethnicity. An "ethnic" Aryan German shares
more in common with a "non-ethnic" Aryan German, than they do
with an "ethnic" non-Aryan German. They also share more in
common with an Aryan non-German than they do with a non-Aryan
German. Someone born and raised in Germany is German regardless
of their ethnicity. And if they're a recent immigrant into
Germany, then Germans should trust that they want to be a part
of German society, so such people shouldn't be excluded either.
Our intention isn't to preserve ethnic or cultural diversity. By
the very nature of our mission which requires both de-population
and spiritual transcendence, nations will eventually lose their
purpose and cease to be as we start heading out the same exit.
The reason why we support autarky, is because there are still
many nations which have not stopped serving a purpose
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: guest30 Date: August 27, 2021, 5:32 pm
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@Cthens, Hitlerist nigga
[quote]But the idea that Hitler's views of black people didn't
change after mein kampf is ridiculous, and you can see it in the
last books he authored. Much of which is quoted here and on
anet[/quote]
I even already show to you all that even Nazi racial law did not
change in 1941, and many "colored" people still persecuted in
Nazi Germany, you can see that in my previous conversation post
in this thread, so Hitler's some positive talk about "colored"
people cannot be taken seriously
In Socialist Russia, you will become a good proletariat, and in
Hitler's Racialist Germany, you will considered as nigga
degenerate
Bonus video :
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU0oHq9Y6Ws
@SirGalahad, Emily's best friend, fellow Nazi comrade
[quote]In their defense, 90sRetroFan's position isn't that
Hitler's views changed after Mein Kampf. The position is that
Mein Kampf was written to bolster himself as a politician, which
Hitler confirmed in a quote. What we should be figuring out is
both where and what exactly the misinformation in Mein Kampf is,
that Hitler spoke of[/quote]
Hitler's views not changed after he's writting Mein Kampf, even
when he ruled Germany, he still let the law that persecuted
"colored" people continue, see Nuremberg Racial Law after 1935,
and the picture of classification of "Aryan" race, and also the
Nazi daily newspaper which discussed about intermarriage between
a "White German" woman and Chinese man which forbidden by
government's official people during 1941, you can see that in my
previous conversation post on "Aryanism's hostility towards
Russia" thread
And also, Hitler say like this during his private conversation :
"What a fine race the Dutch are ! The girls are splendid and
very much to my taste. The blemishes in the Dutch are due to
interbreeding with the Malays, and that, in its turn, is the
result of sexual urge and the lack of a sufficiency of white
women in their colonies. We had much the same thing in our own
colonies; a German had the right to marry a negress, provided
she was a Catholic, but not a German girl, if she happened to be
a Protestant. Even to-day, the Catholic priest chatters for
months if one of his flock wishes to marry a Protestant. It is
not very long ago that, in the country, a marriage between
Catholic and Protestant was stigmatised as an insult to the Holy
Altar; but nobody bothered their heads about the colour of
bastards!
...
Again and again I am asked to sanction marriage between one of
our soldiers and a foreign girl; and as often as not the soldier
is a splendid young lad and the girl a little trollop. Nothing
but catastrophe could come of such unions"
Source : Adolf Hitler - Table Talk page 697 (PDF format's page)
paragraph 3 and paragraph 4
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: Cthens Date: August 27, 2021, 5:36 pm
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[quote author=SirGalahad link=topic=159.msg8398#msg8398
date=1630103298]
[quote]Blood is important to us right? How does that translate
into letting just anyone from anywhere rule over Americans or
Germans or Arabs.[/quote]
Blood as in race. Not ethnicity. An "ethnic" Aryan German shares
more in common with a "non-ethnic" Aryan German, than they do
with an "ethnic" non-Aryan German. They also share more in
common with an Aryan non-German than they do with a non-Aryan
German. Someone born and raised in Germany is German regardless
of their ethnicity. And if they're a recent immigrant into
Germany, then Germans should trust that they want to be a part
of German society, so such people shouldn't be excluded either.
Our intention isn't to preserve ethnic or cultural diversity. By
the very nature of our mission which requires both de-population
and spiritual transcendence, nations will eventually lose their
purpose and cease to be as we start heading out the same exit.
The reason why we support autarky, is because there are still
many nations which have not stopped serving a purpose
[/quote]
but it is not something Hitler believed.
(At least the immigration part) And it is untrue. Being German
has more to.do with just being born there. This is central to
national socialism
And I was clear that ethnicity was not involved, blood was
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: guest30 Date: August 27, 2021, 6:29 pm
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@Cthens
[quote]Being German has more to.do with just being born there.
This is central to national socialism[/quote]
Being pure "White" people and not racially mixed with people
from "colored" race is central of National [s]Socialism[/s]
Racialism, I already show the requirements to be "National
[s]Socialist[/s] Racialist" on previous conversation post on
thread "Aryanism's hostility towards Russia and Eastern European
people"
Link/URL to the post :
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/aryanism's-hostility-towards-russia-and-eastern-european-people/msg8015/#msg8015
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: Dazhbog Date: August 28, 2021, 7:33 am
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[quote author=kameradbaren link=topic=159.msg8345#msg8345
date=1630026233]Hitler was not fought for justice, he fought for
"White European" people's racial purity and their oppressive
domination of the world, seeing that he implemented more
friendly and merciful policy towards Western European people
during his troops occupied their people and not seriously attack
the last powerful colonial nation England (United
Kingdom)[/quote]
...meanwhile, the Soviet Union was a full-scale ally of these
very same colonial powers.
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: guest30 Date: August 28, 2021, 9:34 am
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@Dazhbog
[quote]...meanwhile, the Soviet Union was a full-scale ally of
these very same colonial powers.[/quote]
Stalin's foreign policy on Racial Capitalist Western European
nations just seeking opportunity to find a easy way possible to
defeat Nazi regime, after Nazi defeat in 1945, even good
relations between Socialist Russia and Racial Capitalist Western
European nations deterioriated rapidly, and resulting the
indirect war between them, or called as "Cold War", and had
Stalin quickly invade and defeat Hitler's regime more early
before Hitler's regime attack to Stalin Russia on 22 June 1941
like as described in Viktor Suvorov's historical research book
named "Icebreaker", Socialist movements had a big chance to take
over powerful colonialist nations of Western Europe, seeing
Stalin will surprisingly invade and defeat Hitler's racialist
Germany without suffering much casualties, and the rest of
Europe will be under socialist power, and the rest of the world
will be achieve freedom from "White Supremacy" which last for
500 years
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 29, 2021, 12:29 am
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[quote]The blemishes in the Dutch are due to interbreeding with
the Malays[/quote]
Example:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders
[quote]He was born to a Dutch father and a mother born in
colonial Indonesia,[27][28] whose background was mixed Dutch and
Indonesian.[29][30][/quote]
Hitler was correct. A lot of Wilders' heritable bigotry probably
comes from his mother's bloodline. We have an entire topic
devoted to criticizing "non-white" Eurocentrists who
deliberately try to reproduce with "whites" in order to make
their descendants "whiter":
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/
This is because we are opposed to Eurocentrism (as was Hitler)!
The "non-white" Eurocentrists who deliberately try to make their
descendants "whiter" are inferior (I agree with Hitler about
this) not because they are "non-white", but because they are
Eurocentrists! In other words, they are inferior not because
they are "non-white", but because they think they are inferior
because they are "non-white". Superior "non-whites" who are not
Eurocentrist, on the other hand, lack the specific motivation
possessed by inferior "non-whites" to reproduce with "whites",
and hence are statistically far less likely to reproduce with
"whites" (especially not with their own immediate colonizers) in
reality. Therefore Hitler's statement - that Malay blood made
the Dutch gene pool worse - is accurate, just not via the
reasoning that you and neo-Nazis presume he was using (ie.
because Malays in general are "non-white"), but rather via our
reasoning (ie. because those particular Malays who supplied the
blood were mostly Eurocentrists).
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: guest30 Date: August 29, 2021, 8:59 am
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@90sRetroFan
[quote]Hitler was correct. A lot of Wilders' heritable bigotry
probably comes from his mother's bloodline. We have an entire
topic devoted to criticizing "non-white" Eurocentrists who
deliberately try to reproduce with "whites" in order to make
their descendants "whiter":[/quote]
This is the reason why Hitler oppose a German people who want to
intermarriage with people of other races, because he consider
that racial mixing to people of other races are resulting the
decay of "Aryan" race and make the degeneration of advanced
civilization of Europe which made by "White European Nordic"
people, or Western Civilization which you all strongly oppose,
and threatened "White European" domination of the world, and
also Hitler's regime consider that a culture is created by
people based on the quality of their blood, and he don't want
the "White European Nordic" people's blood became mixed with
people of other races, especially "colored" races
Racial Policy: Parts of a 1943 SS booklet on racial theory.
"...The equality of all citizens, regardless of race, led to the
mixing of Europeans with Jews, Negro, Mongols, and so on,
resulting in the decay and decline of the Aryan race.
"All that Nordic civilization had won from the powers of
darkness in the areas of culture, science, and freedom was
threatened at the instant when the Jews and other inferior
elements gained power. European domination of the world
collapsed as the result of the World War, and the best of the
German peoples, the Germans, faced the danger of decline. Adolf
Hitler alone rescued Germany and all of Europe from this fate."
...
The environment does not form people... People form the
environment.
The accomplishments of the Nordic race are the highest of any
race in Europe. This is shown in many splendid cultural
monuments, not only on European soil, but also deep in Asia and
Africa. The investigations are at an early stage, but we already
know that there is hardly a nation in North Africa, the Near
East, Iran, India and as far as Turkestan that does not show
wonderful evidence of Nordic cultures. It must fill us with
pride that in our own homeland, in Germany, culture has bloomed
in unbroken lines for more than 5000 years, created by people of
our blood, our nature, our ancestry."
Source : Der Reichsführer SS/SS-Hauptamt, Rassenpolitik (Berlin,
1943 [?]).
Website source :
HTML https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/rassenpo.htm
Even Hitler's racial theory still not changed after 10 years of
his leadership, contrary to what you all "Aryanism" people say,
that Hitler gradually made a policy which oppose racism after he
gained power in Germany on 1933
And also another facts of information, that Nazi Germany was not
implement anti-colonial policy, instead they wanted the colonial
territory which lost during the German defeat on the First World
War back, see this Nazi propaganda...
Regaining German colonies in Africa: Optimism in 1941.
"...We are thus forced to look beyond the oceans to territories
under the tropic sky that were stolen from us in an
unprecedented way. We gained them properly and without stain,
developed them successfully through hard work, cared for them,
and defended them bravely. Even during our years of shame, we
never ceased to demand the return of our colonies, and the
reestablishment of the Reich overseas was an immediate goal of
the National Socialist government. This demand remains during
this enormous struggle for Germany’s salvation, since it is
necessary for gaining, maintaining, and protecting absolutely
necessary territory. Our colonies are an essential and integral
part of that territory.
“Without colonial possessions, our territory is too small to
guarantee our people a secure, sufficient, and lasting food
supply.” Over recent years, Germany’s Führer has increasingly
emphasized to the whole world this situation, and spoken of the
impossibility of accepting it. He has repeated his hope that the
day might come when far-sighted statesmen on the enemy’s side
would see the need for a peaceful solution. In vain! Thieves
never willingly surrender what they have stolen. Warnings and
demands were intentionally ignored and one sinfully avoided a
peaceful resolution. They thought they had us by the neck and
could resolve colonial questions in the way they wanted, as
pirates. The old spirit of foolishness, the old evil of
stubbornness, the old rapacious avarice!"
Dr. J. H. Krumbach, Kolonialpolitisches Amt der NSDAP,
Reichsleitung.
Nazi colonialism propaganda
HTML https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/images/covers/colonies.jpg
Source: Das deutsche koloniale Jahrbuch 1941. Kolonien — ein
Kraftfeld Großdeutschlands (Berlin: Wilhelm Süßerott Verlag,
1941).
Website Source :
HTML https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/colonies1941.htm
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: christianbethel Date: August 29, 2021, 10:12 am
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[quote author=Cthens link=topic=159.msg8297#msg8297
date=1629859447]
[quote author=christianbethel link=topic=159.msg8274#msg8274
date=1629810716]
Your sarcasm is not appreciated.
[/quote]
Neither is your incognizance. If you wanted to be past western
propaganda, you could be. It is so incredibly obvious at this
point that the Reich was not White nationalist. At the very most
you could say there was a large number of Nordicists. But they
say stupid **** that you eat up. Like Hitler supposedly saying
that black people are primitive and should be banned from the
Olympics.
"Die Spiele Olympischen 1936" by Leni Riefenstahl (a famous
German film maker), highly praised Jesse Owens without a single
offensive word refering to his racial background.
[/quote]
I was talking about Mazda's response to my question about 'Nazi'
child euthanasia, not Third Reich race issues. I already know
Hitler and his true followers in the NSDAP were anti-racist,
thank you very much.
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: guest55 Date: August 29, 2021, 1:18 pm
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@Kameradbaren:
[quote]This is the reason why Hitler oppose a German people who
want to intermarriage with people of other races, because he
consider that racial mixing to people of other races are
resulting the decay of "Aryan" race and make the degeneration of
advanced civilization of Europe which made by "White European
Nordic" people, or Western Civilization which you all strongly
oppose, and threatened "White European" domination of the world,
and also Hitler's regime consider that a culture is created by
people based on the quality of their blood, and he don't want
the "White European Nordic" people's blood became mixed with
people of other races, especially "colored" races[/quote]
Hitler was NOT a nordicist like so many others in the NSDAP.
Hitler obviously appealed to Nordicist sentiments here and there
in an attempt to win them over. (We disagree with this
position.) Had Hitler had access to the information we now have
access too he would have realized he was speaking of the
Neolithic Farmer type when speaking of Aryans:
[quote]If we were to divide humanity into three classes, the
founders of civilization, the maintainers of civilization, and
destroyers of civilization, the Aryan would be the only possible
representative of the first class. He laid the foundation and
built the great walls of all human creations, and only the
outward shape and color are determined by the particular
characteristics of the individual peoples. It is the Aryan who
furnished the great building stones and plans for all human
progress, and only the execution depends on the character of the
various races. — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, pg.191
[/quote]
As we know today, "the founder of civilization" is the Neolithic
Farmer! So, if Aryans = founders of civilization, Then Aryans =
Neolithic Farmer type! There is NO way around this argument, IT
IS IRONCLAD!!!
Present-day Aryanists are correct in deducing that Aryans =
Neolithic Farmer type, as also discussed here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/turanian-diffusion/?message=8224
[quote]The Neolithic Revolution, or the (First) Agricultural
Revolution, was the wide-scale transition of many human cultures
during the Neolithic period from a lifestyle of hunting and
gathering to one of agriculture and settlement, making an
increasingly large population possible.[1] These settled
communities permitted humans to observe and experiment with
plants, learning how they grew and developed.[2] This new
knowledge led to the domestication of plants.[2][3]
Archaeological data indicates that the domestication of various
types of plants and animals happened in separate locations
worldwide, starting in the geological epoch of the Holocene
11,700 years ago.[4] It was the world's first historically
verifiable revolution in agriculture. The Neolithic Revolution
greatly narrowed the diversity of foods available, resulting in
a downturn in the quality of human nutrition.[/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution
The Neolithic Revolution phenomenon , which made civilization
possible, occurred WORLD-WIDE at almost the same time, as
discussed extensively here:
HTML https://aryan-anthropology.blogspot.com/
If detractors of Aryanism had any smartness about them then they
would attack this central argument of the Aryanist ideology, but
for some reason they never quite get around to it, do they? They
always nit-pick at all the silly-**** regarding WWII
revisionism. Quite foolish of them. I suspect they do this
because they know that the central argument of Aryanism is
IRONCLAD and there's absolutely no way around it?
[quote]Source : Der Reichsführer SS/SS-Hauptamt, Rassenpolitik
(Berlin, 1943 [?]).[/quote]
Himmler ran the SS, NOT Hitler. Himmler was a fool and a
Nordicist!
HTML https://www.rug.nl/library/_shared/images/bc/nazi-propaganda-klein-2.jpg
HTML https://histclo.com/image/youth/nat/ger/hitler/act/warw/hj-farm01s.jpg
[img]
HTML https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-nazi-propaganda-photo-shows-hitler-youth-boys-during-their-work-picture-id1058602370[/img]
HTML https://histclo.com/imagef/date/2015/09/hyb-agr01s.jpg
HTML https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Marc-Champagne/publication/327390633/figure/fig3/AS:765931642974210@1559623742474/Nazi-postcard-from-the-1930s-Taken-from-Groarke-2015-p-147.png
Nazi postcard from the 1930s.
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