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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: guest30 Date: August 26, 2021, 8:03 pm
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@Mazda or NuminousSun
[quote]If you say so....
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Hitler was not fought for justice, he fought for "White
European" people's racial purity and their oppressive domination
of the world, seeing that he implemented more friendly and
merciful policy towards Western European people during his
troops occupied their people and not seriously attack the last
powerful colonial nation England (United Kingdom) during that
time, instead he ruthlessly and send a strong and powerful
military blow to Eastern European people and Russia which on
that time they are under Stalin's dictatorship socialist
leadership that intended to invade all of Europe for the sake
destroy the main power of capitalism ideology on that dirty land
and free the colonized people around the world, so his sayings
is just lip service and cannot be trusted
Contrary to what Stalin goals really are
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: guest55 Date: August 26, 2021, 8:12 pm
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[quote]Hitler was not fought for justice, he fought for "White
European" people's racial purity and their oppressive domination
of the world, seeing that he implemented more friendly and
merciful policy towards Western European people during his
troops occupied their people and not seriously attack the last
powerful colonial nation England (United Kingdom) during that
time....[/quote]
We already discussed in this thread how Hitler fought Britain
and France in "Africa" and the middle-east and had he won both
"Africa" and the middle-east would have been liberated for
"blacks" who may or may not have taken up National Socialism for
their own country.
We have already discussed how Russia is a colonial power to this
day.
You seem to like repeating these points of yours over and over
again regardless of how anyone responds.
You can not change our minds and we obviously cannot change
yours, so why are you still here? Wouldn't you be better off
creating your own forum for Russophiles and Stalin fans? Seems
like you just like wasting your's and everyone else's time here?
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: Cthens Date: August 26, 2021, 8:35 pm
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[quote author=Mazda link=topic=159.msg8346#msg8346
date=1630026729]
[quote]Hitler was not fought for justice, he fought for "White
European" people's racial purity and their oppressive domination
of the world, seeing that he implemented more friendly and
merciful policy towards Western European people during his
troops occupied their people and not seriously attack the last
powerful colonial nation England (United Kingdom) during that
time....[/quote]
We already discussed in this thread how Hitler fought Britain
and France in "Africa" and the middle-east and had he won both
"Africa" and the middle-east would have been liberated for
"blacks" who may or may not have taken up National Socialism for
their own country.
We have already discussed how Russia is a colonial power to this
day.
You seem to like repeating these points of yours over and over
again regardless of how anyone responds.
You can not change our minds and we obviously cannot change
yours, so why are you still here? Wouldn't you be better off
creating your own forum for Russophiles and Stalin fans? Seems
like you just like wasting your's and everyone else's time here?
[/quote]
We should take 90sRetroFan's example and ignore him.
You are a russophile kameradbaren, and a commie, you are the
epitome of untermensch and I have shown my own lack of grace by
continuing to assign any weight to your words. Hitler killed
himself, you will likely not get that honor.
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: guest30 Date: August 26, 2021, 8:49 pm
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@Mazda or NuminousSun
[quote]We already discussed in this thread how Hitler fought
Britain and France in "Africa" and the middle-east and had he
won both "Africa" and the middle-east would have been liberated
for "blacks" who may or may not have taken up National Socialism
for their own country.[/quote]
Your statements about Hitler's fought on France and Britain
already answered many times by me and guest user named @v3456,
but seems you pretending to see that I am not answering your
facts, you behave like former member of this forum named Emily,
another Nazi apologist girl
[quote]We have already discussed how Russia is a colonial power
to this day.[/quote]
As long as there is no single news today about the
discrimination of people based on racial background in Russia,
and world community's condemnation on Russian government's
treatment to people who have racial background other than "White
Russian" people, I don't take your word seriously
[quote]You seem to like repeating these points of yours over and
over again regardless of how anyone responds.[/quote]
If many facts of Russia that I give to this Nazi apologist and
Anglophile forum, you consider that just repeating an argument
of facts, then I am repeating based on your view
[quote]You can not change our minds and we obviously cannot
change yours, so why are you still here? Wouldn't you be better
off creating your own forum for Russophiles and Stalin fans?
Seems like you just like wasting your's and everyone else's time
here?[/quote]
Only people itself who can change their mind, not another people
who warn and remind them, and I am not feel wasting my time to
argue and giving many facts that you all ignore on this Nazi
apologist forum, when I am happy to debate and argue on this
forum I still make money and my family business is still
running, indeed many of this forum's members not yet believe, or
even not agree with the facts which I give, but my post and
facts that I show to this forum is useful for exposing your
forum as a forum that supporting racist ideology, and soon many
people who interested on opposition to racism movement will
against your forum, movements, and your work when they found
your little forum
And soon, some of new people who come to your forum will report
your forum to officials and you all will be watched by
intelligence agent, or even you all will be arrested by
authorities and you will deceased in prison because of your
support of racist ideology
See, if you want to stop me exposing that your movement is
supporting Hitler racist ideology, then delete my account and
ban me, I will not stop posting anything to expose your
evilness, and I am happy on that activity
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: guest55 Date: August 26, 2021, 9:02 pm
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Thank you for showing the non-Western world how Russophiles
behave also! ;)
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: SirGalahad Date: August 26, 2021, 9:17 pm
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@kameradbaren @v3456 Even supposing that any of your assertions
about Hitler are correct, what does that have to do with the
validity of our actual policies? The bottom line is that we
can't educate people away from tribalism or ignobility. If
teaching people isn't enough to reduce total suffering, what
needs to be done? The answer is obvious. We need to find out
which genes are correlated to the traits that we personally
consider noble, and promote them through selective breeding.
Nothing else will get us out of this mess. It doesn't matter if
Hitler was wrong about this or that thing, or if some other
person affiliated with National Socialism was wrong about this
or that thing, or if an enemy of National Socialism was right
about this or that thing. While I sympathize with communism in
the sense that it's at the very least more noble than capitalism
on paper, that doesn't change the fact that communism is a
purely political and material ideology with no concern for
racial quality. Consideration of race is what will actually
improve our species and lead us closer to our end goal. You're
focusing too much on what Aryanism was, instead of what it could
have been. Hitler doesn't have to be an ideologically blameless
and infallible man for the concept of the Aryan race to hold
weight. A broken clock is still right twice a day, and making it
out to seem that everything he ever said and did was wrong just
because you find faults, is needlessly divisive. All that you
accomplish by doing this, is destroying every anti-tribalist
race-based movement before they ever even get the chance to gain
traction. Again, I repeat, obsession with historical revisionism
and of how the events of WW2 actually transpired is ultimately
pointless when we're racing against non-Jewish and Jewish
tribalists alike for influence, before they possibly screw
everything up irreparably
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: guest30 Date: August 26, 2021, 9:27 pm
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@Mazda or NuminousSun
[quote]Thank you for showing the non-Western world how
Russophiles behave also! ;)[/quote]
Thank you for showing yourself and all of members of this forum
that you defending Hitler's ideology even tough it was teaches
racism, I even screenshot this forum's talk, so I have reason to
make your movement got banned
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: guest30 Date: August 26, 2021, 9:40 pm
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@SirGalahad
[quote]@kameradbaren @v3456 Even supposing that any of your
assertions about Hitler are correct, what does that have to do
with the validity of our actual policies? The bottom line is
that we can't educate people away from tribalism or ignobility.
If teaching people isn't enough to reduce total suffering, what
needs to be done? The answer is obvious. We need to find out
which genes are correlated to the traits that we personally
consider noble, and promote them through selective breeding.
Nothing else will get us out of this mess. It doesn't matter if
Hitler was wrong about this or that thing, or if some other
person affiliated with National Socialism was wrong about this
or that thing, or if an enemy of National Socialism was right
about this or that thing. While I sympathize with communism in
the sense that it's at the very least more noble than capitalism
on paper, that doesn't change the fact that communism is a
purely political and material ideology with no concern for
racial quality. Consideration of race is what will actually
improve our species and lead us closer to our end goal. You're
focusing too much on what Aryanism was, instead of what it could
have been. Hitler doesn't have to be an ideologically blameless
and infallible man for the concept of the Aryan race to hold
weight. A broken clock is still right twice a day.[/quote]
Your goals are good, but seeing your goals were associated with
Hitler's ideology is just make this movements look bad for
people who interested in goodhearted ideas and opposition to
oppression like racism for example, they will not agree with
this movement anymore after seeing some post that member of this
forum give is talking positively about Hitler
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: Cthens Date: August 26, 2021, 10:25 pm
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[quote author=SirGalahad link=topic=159.msg8350#msg8350
date=1630030655]
@kameradbaren @v3456 Even supposing that any of your assertions
about Hitler are correct, what does that have to do with the
validity of our actual policies? The bottom line is that we
can't educate people away from tribalism or ignobility. If
teaching people isn't enough to reduce total suffering, what
needs to be done? The answer is obvious. We need to find out
which genes are correlated to the traits that we personally
consider noble, and promote them through selective breeding.
Nothing else will get us out of this mess. It doesn't matter if
Hitler was wrong about this or that thing, or if some other
person affiliated with National Socialism was wrong about this
or that thing, or if an enemy of National Socialism was right
about this or that thing. While I sympathize with communism in
the sense that it's at the very least more noble than capitalism
on paper, that doesn't change the fact that communism is a
purely political and material ideology with no concern for
racial quality. Consideration of race is what will actually
improve our species and lead us closer to our end goal. You're
focusing too much on what Aryanism was, instead of what it could
have been. Hitler doesn't have to be an ideologically blameless
and infallible man for the concept of the Aryan race to hold
weight. A broken clock is still right twice a day, and making it
out to seem that everything he ever said and did was wrong just
because you find faults, is needlessly divisive. All that you
accomplish by doing this, is destroying every anti-tribalist
race-based movement before they ever even get the chance to gain
traction. Again, I repeat, obsession with historical revisionism
and of how the events of WW2 actually transpired is ultimately
pointless when we're racing against non-Jewish and Jewish
tribalists alike for influence, before they possibly screw
everything up irreparably
[/quote]
This is a good explanation, wasted on someone who can't even
understand it.
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
By: SirGalahad Date: August 26, 2021, 10:27 pm
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@kameradbaren
[quote]Your goals are good, but seeing your goals were
associated with Hitler's ideology is just make this movements
look bad for people who interested in goodhearted ideas and
opposition to oppression like racism for example, they will not
agree with this movement anymore after seeing some post that
member of this forum give is talking positively about
Hitler[/quote]
Winston Churchill was undoubtedly more racist than Hitler, and
yet that doesn't stop people from commending and respecting him
for stopping the Nazis. So I don't think that's necessarily
true.
"The white races did, of course, give some things to the
natives, and they were the worst gifts that they could possibly
have made, those plagues of our own modern world - materialism,
fanaticism, alcoholism, and syphilis" - Hitler
"For the English, the ideal existence was represented in the
society of the Victorian age. At that time England had at her
service the countless millions of her colonial Empire, together
with her own thirty-five million inhabitants. On top of that, a
million bourgeois - and, to crown the lot, thousands of
gentlefolk who, without trouble to themselves, reaped the fruit
of other people's toil" - Hitler
"I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly
religion." - Churchill
"I hate people with slit eyes and pigtails. I don't like the
look of them or the smell of them – but I suppose it does no
great harm to have a look at them." - Churchill
^ Contrast the above two quotes with Hitler's open respect for
China, India, and Native Americans. The quotes detailing this
respect have been posted and reposted ad nauseam on here, on the
main site, and on the main site's blog, so I don't want to take
up too much space here.
"I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done
to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia.
I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the
fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly
wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place"
- Churchill
^ Contrast the above Churchill quote with Hitler's view:
"The best nations - or, to speak more exactly, the only really
cultured nations, who at the same time are the chief bearers of
human progress - have decided, in their blind pacifism, to
refrain from the acquisition of new territory and to be content
with 'internal colonization'. But at the same time nations of
inferior quality succeed in getting hold of large spaces for
colonization all over the globe. ... Should that state of
affairs continue, then the world will one day be possessed by
that portion of mankind which is culturally inferior but more
active and energetic" - Hitler
If Hitler really were okay with white colonialism, why would he
ever say this? The only nations which have globally colonized to
such an extent are the so-called "white" ones. He's certainly
not referring to any of the non-white third world nations which
have been colonized, if he's criticizing nations with immense
global influence. By contrast, Churchill was a staunch British
colonialist who saw absolutely nothing wrong with how the events
in America, Australia, India, and various other places
transpired. I like to believe that a good chunk of the racist
quotes attributed to Hitler were merely a means of him securing
power and influence, which can be somewhat corroborated by the
fact that Hitler wanted both Mein Kampf (the work that all of
v3456's quotes attributed to Hitler are borrowed from) and Myth
of the 20th Century (Alfred Rosenberg's work) out of
circulation. He went so far as to state that neither of the two
works represented solidified party doctrine. But again, even if
Hitler held racists views, which I won't rule out the
possibility of, that doesn't prove our entire ideology false.
Outside of Aryanism, there are plenty of historical figures that
we all agree have influenced humanity with their ideas, even if
some of their other ideas weren't so good. By assuming that
someone who you don't like was always wrong about everything,
you're throwing out the baby with the bath water. Plus, you're
ruling out the fact that people can have a change of heart. I
used to be racist myself. Now that I understand the modern
Aryanist philosophy and the harm that ethnic tribalism
ultimately causes, I really want nothing to do with any of that.
The same could very well apply to Hitler and any other major
National Socialists, had they lived long enough to get ahold of
the historical data we have now so that they could revise their
ideology, or even lived long enough just for further
introspection (which is what led me down my actively anti-racist
path).
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