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Re: Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
DIR By: 2ThaSun
Date: June 16, 2023, 1:16 pm
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--- Quote from: Vrilya link ---
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> You all speak of gravure as a more graceful alternative to
replace pórn. Very well. But am I "psychologically unhealthy"
because I don't want to jack off to that video? What the fúck?
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"You all speak..."? Where have I ever said anything about
gravure? You are psychologically unhealthy because you take the
time to use ASCII code to make sure your expletives get past the
forum censor, we can just start there in your regard when
speaking on what is and what is not psychologically unhealthy.
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 16, 2023, 4:34 pm
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""black" tribalism, because that is what exactly happened both
within Aryanism"
Point out where we encourage "blacks" treating "non-blacks" as
the outgroup.
What we actually encourage is folkism:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/allies/blm/msg10/#msg10
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HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/allies/blm/msg190/#msg190
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> The proposal, drafted in partnership with the Movement for
Black Lives, aims to overhaul the U.S. criminal justice system,
providing a range of radical changes — from defunding the police
and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to establishing a
commission tasked with designing reparations for victims of
“mass criminalization.”
> ...
> Notably, the radial proposal also calls for the removal of
federal laws that criminalize illegal border entry, as well as
thefull dismantlement of ICE and Customs and Border Protection
(CBP)
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HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/allies/blm/msg4844/#msg4844
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> How Black Lives Matter helped Native Americans and Latinos
>
> Protests over the killing of George Floyd generated a racial
reckoning across the U.S. that also helped Native Americans and
Latinos bring attention to their fight against systemic racism.
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> Vilson said it is important to remember "how interconnected so
many of our struggles are."
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> "The focus on anti-blackness does not mean that we don't care
about kids in cages. Similarly, we understand that slavery also
manifested in so many Asian Americans who had to build railroads
in this country.
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> Activists from the Black, Latinx and Asian American community
will hold an emergency rally in New York City on Saturday in
response to the string of violent racist attacks against Asians.
> ...
> “We have to imagine a new world of justice rooted in
compassion, not a system built on the slavery of Africans, the
genocide of the Indigenous, the exploited labor of Asians, and
the lynching of all the above.”
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> Racism “is experienced by us differently,” she said. “But the
source is the same.
> ...
> As a Black woman, I can't help but feel that these deaths have
drawn Asian Americans into our fold. The stories of the victims’
lives spotlight the common ground our groups share as targets of
mass violence fueled by racism and inhumanity.
> ...
> I grieve now for these Atlanta women — just as I grieved the
nine Black worshipers murdered at a Charleston, S.C., church.
And the 23 people killed by a gunman targeting Latinos at an El
Paso shopping center.
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> The famed Third World Women’s Alliance was born out of the
Black feminist movement and the efforts of Black women leaders
to create space for other women of color
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> Some people of color, like Ms. Tang and Ms. Williams, are
fighting for the collective – “to do right by all communities of
color,” as Ms. Williams puts it.
> ...
> Ms. Williams, for one, says she is dedicated to supporting
other communities of color because she sees their struggles
against oppression intertwined with hers.
> ...
> “Stop Asian Hate would not be around today without Black Lives
Matter,” she says. “Our movements have always bounced off of
each other and been inspired by each other. Historically we need
one another to advance our liberation.”
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> People of color is not a racial identity but a political one.
It describes a tenuous, deeply uncomfortable state of coalition
held together by the knowledge that it will take all of us
standing together to wear down and tear down the structures of
white supremacy.
>
> Refusing BIPOC means when I write about the shared experience
of the multiethnic, multinational group of people of African
descent, I will talk about Black people. When pointing to the
ongoing harms of settler colonialism, I will specify Indigenous
people and Indigenous land. But when I want to describe an
alliance that includes people from every group that is
racialized and subjugated to keep white supremacy alive – people
of African, Indigenous, Latinx, Asian, Pacific Islander and Arab
heritage – I will talk about people of color.
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> Aina-Nia Ayo’dele, founder and managing director of Sacred
Women International, is known to say that there’s a space for
co-existence, understanding and healing between Indigenous and
Black people in Canada through the correlative fact that
“Indigenous people have had their land stolen, and African
people have been stolen from their land.”
>
> At the root of this unique and interconnected fact, we find a
solid grounding for reconciliation between Black and Indigenous
people in Canada, while also honouring that there are thousands
in this country that are of both Indigenous and African
heritage.
>
> Global capitalism’s centuries-old symbiotic sins of
colonization of Indigenous lands and the enslavement of Africans
is not just a point of intersecting sufferings of Indigenous and
Black people. It is also a potentially powerful point of
departure for healing, understanding and mutually reinforcing
resistance against the afterlives of colonization and slavery.
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> Bobby Blount, a spokesperson for the San Antonio Area African
American Community Fund, said the organization is willing to do
all it can to support the Latino community in Uvalde.
>
> “We have to continue the mission to make the world better for
our demographics, the Latinx demographics, for Asians and
others,” Blount said. “It’s important that we not only support
each other on this but on other matters that we’re facing across
the board.”
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etc.
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: Vrilya
Date: June 16, 2023, 7:37 pm
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@2ThaSun
>I did not ignore your point, this is why I posted this on the
Ascesis Foundation thread and in 'The "Black" and "White"
Identity Politics Scam' thread
I said by now, everyone has had the "black"/"white" label forced
on them. You responded by talking about how "whites" created the
identities centuries ago, ignoring the point virtually no one
living today chose either identity.
>Here's what I would do if someone proved to me beyond a
reasonable doubt that the identity that had been forced on me
was in fact evil: I would instantly stop identifying with that
identity, and then spend the rest of my life denouncing it
publicly whenever possible.
Sure, but what you idiots don't understand is that most people
don't know this is an option. You can uselessly say that makes
them degenerate, but even most Aryanists didn't seem mindful of
this issue until a few years ago.
>My "black" friends never called me "whigger", and they even
told me I wasn't "white" long before I even understood
"whiteness".
This is why talking to you guys about this sucks. You are
constantly shifting between two definitions of "white" and
"black", one referring to the cultural identity and the other,
the ethnicity and skin color, and pretending that people use
always use one definition.
>The point is, which you fail to see over and over again, that
"blacks" cannot stop being "black" until "whites" stop being
"white" first, which is what we argue for.
You fail to understand that "blacks" do the same. But even then,
why not? Yes, racism forces people to into a certain ethnic
identity. But the solution is to lower the ethnic tensions, and
tribal identitiarian consciousness across the board. Otherwise,
you end up basically saying that everyone gets the be racist but
one group.
>$10 bucks says you will continue to ignore everything I have
said here and in the Ascesis Foundation thread and then accuse
me once again of ignoring your points.
Nah, everything has been answered. But hey, looks like you
ignored both of my points after all!
"Ten bucks that you're going to ignore my point that by now,
everyone has had the 'black'/'white' label forced on them."
$10
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: Vrilya
Date: June 16, 2023, 7:44 pm
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@90sRetroFan
answer
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/questions-regarding-aryanism/msg20401/#msg20401
Meanwhile, here's some more JAMfax. His old pseudonym "Heru K.
Minkah" comes from a pèdophile novel, and he tried writing a
sexual fantasy book as a form of activism. RIP the Sunborne
series, Elysium sure was a baddie for calling this weirdo out
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: 2ThaSun
Date: June 16, 2023, 9:33 pm
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"I said by now, everyone has had the "black"/"white" label
forced on them. You responded by talking about how "whites"
created the identities centuries ago, ignoring the point
virtually no one living today chose either identity."
No, I did not respond by talking about "whites" creating the
identities centuries ago. I responded by posting this comment
from ''The "Black" and "White" Identity Politics Scam':
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> Here's what I would do if someone proved to me beyond a
reasonable doubt that the identity that had been forced on me
was in fact evil: I would instantly stop identifying with that
identity, and then spend the rest of my life denouncing it
publicly whenever possible. I figure that would be the least I
should do in order to attempt to right the wrong for those who
had been wronged by the evil identity that had been forced on me
without my consent. To not do so would only mean that I actually
do consent to said evil identity and that I have no problem with
the evil, would it not?
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This is what I would do today as a "white". Duh!
"Sure, but what you idiots don't understand is that most people
don't know this is an option. You can uselessly say that makes
them degenerate, but even most Aryanists didn't seem mindful of
this issue until a few years ago."
So if you live in a vacuum where activism has no relevance or
bearing on this world, why are you even here to begin with? Why
did you create the Ascesis Foundation website? Why did you
volunteer to help 90SRF write the Jamia project?
"This is why talking to you guys about this sucks. You are
constantly shifting between two definitions of "white" and
"black", one referring to the cultural identity and the other,
the ethnicity and skin color, and pretending that people use
always use one definition."
What are you even talking about? NO ONE ACTUALLY HAS "WHITE"
SKIN COLOR!!! How many times do we have to say it!?
"You fail to understand that "blacks" do the same. But even
then, why not? Yes, racism forces people to into a certain
ethnic identity. But the solution is to lower the ethnic
tensions, and tribal identitiarian consciousness across the
board. Otherwise, you end up basically saying that everyone gets
the be racist but one group."
You are a "White Supremacist" denier, a "white" apologist, and
an absolute coward! How do we lower "ethnic tension" when
"whites" participate in "White Supremacy" moron? How do we lower
ethnic tension when "whites" are still colonizing the
non-Western world?
Are you now arguing that "blacks" are colonizing Western
Civilization? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: 2ThaSun
Date: June 16, 2023, 9:35 pm
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Furthermore, if you're not even "black" in real life, why did
you steal a "black" person's picture and use it as the profile
picture for your "christianbethel" account? Do you not care that
a rightist could do a google search on that profile picture,
find the "black" it belongs to, assume it is you, and then kill
that "black" person? Where is your compassion moron?
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: rp
Date: June 17, 2023, 12:55 pm
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Ascesis is Elysium confirmed
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: rp
Date: June 17, 2023, 1:09 pm
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> @90sRetroFan
>
> answer
>
>
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>
> Meanwhile, here's some more JAMfax. His old pseudonym "Heru K.
Minkah" comes from a pèdophile novel, and he tried writing a
sexual fantasy book as a form of activism. RIP the Sunborne
series, Elysium sure was a baddie for calling this weirdo out
>
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Only adult supremacists like Elon Musk, who believe "children
don't have the capacity to consent", would view "ped0philes" as
bad.
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: June 17, 2023, 1:43 pm
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> Furthermore, if you're not even "black" in real life, why did
you steal a "black" person's picture and use it as the profile
picture for your "christianbethel" account? Do you not care that
a rightist could do a google search on that profile picture,
find the "black" it belongs to, assume it is you, and then kill
that "black" person? Where is your compassion moron?
>
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That's me, idiot!
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: June 17, 2023, 1:45 pm
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> [quote author=Vrilya link=topic=159.msg20419#msg20419
date=1686962644]
> @90sRetroFan
>
> answer
>
>
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>
> Meanwhile, here's some more JAMfax. His old pseudonym "Heru K.
Minkah" comes from a pèdophile novel, and he tried writing a
sexual fantasy book as a form of activism. RIP the Sunborne
series, Elysium sure was a baddie for calling this weirdo out
>
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Only adult supremacists like Elon Musk, who believe "children
don't have the capacity to consent", would view "ped0philes" as
bad.
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They don't. Pedophiliá is bad.
...Unless your talking about teenagers, in which case, you are
correct. There are even Romeo and Juliet laws to allow teens to
consent with each other.
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