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Re: True Left Breakthrough: Ahimsa
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: May 3, 2022, 10:03 am
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--- Quote from: 90sRetroFan link ---
>
> "one look at her phenotype gives you an idea of what type of
mother she probably is"
>
> Let's not be too singularly reliant on physical appearance! If
your aim is to persuade readers that she is a bad person, it
would be more persuasive to first mention that she did not
voluntarily resign upon being shown the level of corruption
involved. It is much better to show appearance matches behaviour
already seen than to attempt to infer unseen behaviour from
appearance (which is stereotyping, which is dishonourable, and
also affects people such as our favourite Congress Rep. FFS!
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How does Aryanism feel about fellow travelers/Aryanists
reproducig?
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 3, 2022, 8:29 pm
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Fundamentally, all reproduction is violence initiated against
the children being born without their consent. On top of this,
we are terrifyingly overpopulated as a world. But to recommend
our side to unilaterally stop reproducing first, while our
enemies are still reproducing, is to hand victory to our enemies
and ultimately ensure the violence never ends (since our enemies
will not care about ending it). We need to stop our enemies from
reproducing first.
Theoretically, if someone on our side by their own actions have
successfully removed reproductive potential from several of our
enemies, then they themselves could reproduce and still be a net
reducer of births. Otherwise, I morally refuse to encourage
anyone to reproduce so long as I do not have the power to
prohibit anyone else from reproducing and thus compensate for
the increase in births consequential to my encouragement with a
greater decrease elsewhere.
#Post#: 13200--------------------------------------------------
Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: May 3, 2022, 9:36 pm
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--- Quote from: 90sRetroFan link ---
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> Fundamentally, all reproduction is violence initiated against
the children being born without their consent. On top of this,
we are terrifyingly overpopulated as a world. But to recommend
our side to unilaterally stop reproducing first, while our
enemies are still reproducing, is to hand victory to our enemies
and ultimately ensure the violence never ends (since our enemies
will not care about ending it). We need to stop our enemies from
reproducing first.
>
> Theoretically, if someone on our side by their own actions
have successfully removed reproductive potential from several of
our enemies, then they themselves could reproduce and still be a
net reducer of births. Otherwise, I morally refuse to encourage
anyone to reproduce so long as I do not have the power to
prohibit anyone else from reproducing and thus compensate for
the increase in births consequential to my encouragement with a
greater decrease elsewhere.
>
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Was something like this practiced in the Third Reich?
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 3, 2022, 9:55 pm
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HTML https://www.thoughtco.com/sterilization-in-nazi-germany-1779677
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> the main target of the sterilization program were those people
who were not in the asylums but had a slight hereditary illness
and who were of reproductive age (between 12 and 45). Since
these people were among society, they were deemed the most
dangerous.
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> Since slight hereditary illness is rather ambiguous and the
category "feeble-minded" is extremely ambiguous, people
sterilized under those categories included those the German
elite didn't like for their asocial or anti-Nazi beliefs and
behavior.
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> The belief in stopping hereditary illnesses soon expanded to
include all the people within the east whom Hitler wanted
eliminated.
> ...
> By 1945, the Nazis had sterilized an estimated 300,000 to
450,000 people.
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Whereas:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn
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> About 8,000 children were born in Lebensborn homes in Germany,
and between 8,000 and 12,000 children in Norway.[8] Elsewhere
the total number of births was much lower.[8]
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Therefore [extra births from Lebensborn] < [births prevented
from sterilization].
Hail Hitler!
#Post#: 13205--------------------------------------------------
Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: May 4, 2022, 6:53 pm
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Heil Hitler.
So what you're saying is that humanity can't stop reproducing,
but inferior individuals who have inferior genes and display
inferior behavior can be prohibited from reproducing? You're
saying the state should decide who can and can't reproduce?
If this is correct, how does this accede to Aryanism's
antinatalist proclivities?
#Post#: 13208--------------------------------------------------
Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 4, 2022, 8:24 pm
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"humanity can't stop reproducing"
With state control over reproduction, perhaps it can.
"inferior individuals who have inferior genes and display
inferior behavior can be prohibited from reproducing? You're
saying the state should decide who can and can't reproduce?"
Yes and yes.
"how does this accede to Aryanism's antinatalist proclivities?"
I am saying that if our final goal is to stop all reproduction,
we working in stages have to stop it in reverse order of
reproductive enthusiasm: the people who most want to reproduce
must be prohibited from reproducing first.
Imagine if there were just two men in the whole world: Elon Musk
and Jesus. Which one should be selected by the state to
impregnate the women if you want to statistically minimize the
reproductive enthusiasm of the next generation?
#Post#: 13209--------------------------------------------------
Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: May 4, 2022, 8:39 pm
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Jesus, of course.
Do you think the state control of reproduction could be
facilitated by mandatory sterilization alá NS Germany?
#Post#: 20383--------------------------------------------------
Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: HikariDude
Date: June 15, 2023, 4:57 pm
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So I got a question about Elysium. What ways do True Leftists
differ the most from Sword of Elysium?
#Post#: 20384--------------------------------------------------
Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 15, 2023, 5:29 pm
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You are confused. Sword of Elysium is run by Starling. Elysium
posted on the Aryanism.net blog. Here he inaccurately accused
JAM (without naming him) of "Afrocentrism":
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/elysium/racial-cooperation/
This was the beginning of my falling out with Elysium, as I
firmly sided with JAM in this dispute, whereas Elysium was
trying to portray JAM and Quest (WN) as equally bad. Elysium was
basically the 'Compromise?' guy in the picture here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/how-'moderates'-serve-the-right/msg20318/#msg20318
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#Post#: 20390--------------------------------------------------
Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: Vrilya
Date: June 15, 2023, 8:28 pm
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no
but I'll take the bait. Elysium was essentially saying we should
remember that racism is bad, no matter where its coming from.
That is not the same as saying that Civil Right's activists
should compromise with the KKK.
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And fun fact about your guy JAM, he's a serial womanizer with
several kids with several women and is an unabashed pórn addict.
He is also hooked on the MGTOW craze, and literally believes
that women should be treated like property. Last he was on
YouTube, he was streaming for hours rambling about how he is the
Messiah. Last I heard about him from his ex-SIC, he's currently
"drinking himself to death in Mexico". Shortly after being
graced with this information, he began trying to get said ex-SIC
to "play out his fantasies" with him on some game online. I can
go on, but you get the idea.
There's your hero right there pal. But fúck Elysium for saying
"blacks" shouldn't be racist too, right?
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