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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: guest30
Date: September 14, 2021, 9:40 pm
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@Dazhbog, confirmed as Hitlerist and Anglophile
--- Quote ---
> [quote]Tell that to Papuan people that they not worth to got
better industrial facilities
--- End Quote ---
They didn't need them in millennia, so why would they need them
now?[/quote]
Because they already knew that facilities which shown to them
are giving them more luxury and better live quality, simple
--- Quote ---
> [quote]Sukarno also adopted the pro-industrialization policy
--- End Quote ---
If he really did, he was a worse anti-colonialist leader than
Suharto in this regard.[/quote]
Suharto also was pro-industrialization policy during his
capitalist leadership, he let foreign Western European nations's
industry companies which produce many good quality products to
be placed on Nusantara, so the quality of live of "Native
Nusantara" people can be increased even tough the nation's
revenue or GDP (Gross Domestic Product) mostly taken by Western
European nation's industries for the sake the profit for the
owner and more profit for Western European people, this policy
famously known as "REPELITA" (Rencana Pembangunan Lima Tahun), I
consider Sukarno's Westernization rate is not worse than
Suharto's Westernization rate
--- Quote ---
> [quote]seeing his view that also support communism
--- End Quote ---
Thank you for admitting that communism is pro-industrialization
and thus also pro-Western civilization.[/quote]
If supporting industrialization if without adopting Western
European racialist worldview, I don't think it was a really bad
thing
--- Quote ---
> [quote]if Sukarno not adopted pro-industrialization policy,
then he will destroy the Dutch (Netherlands) facilities and
industry which already built in Papuan people's territory rather
than nationalize it
--- End Quote ---
It isn't pro-industrialization to nationalize facilities already
built so that they no longer benefit the previous owner. It is
pro-industrialization to build new facilities that didn't exist
before.[/quote]
As long as any industrial facilities used by some community of
people, they are supporting industrialization way of life to be
continue, therefor such community are pro-industrialization
--- Quote ---
> [quote]even tough they not fully adopt communism, as long as
they not harming Soviet Russia, then such ideological
differences is not a problem to them (Soviet Russia)
--- End Quote ---
Thank you for confirming that Russia's foreign policy was never
based on shared ideals, but simply on opportunism.[/quote]
Since when Western European foreign policies was based on shared
ideals and not demand reciprocity, almost all of their foreign
policy was based on how much benefit which they can get from a
cooperation, for example, Nusantara during Suharto leadership
accept the Western European nations's industries to be placed in
Nusantara, but the consequence is, the Nusantara natural
resources mostly used for Western European nation's interest,
the "Native Nusantara" people only get few of it, and our
economic system must follow their standards so they got much
benefit and revenue from the debt-based economic system which
forcibly implemented to our fatherland, different on how Soviet
Russia did to my nation, they never force us to became fully
communist, they not demand us many reciprocity from all what
assistance that they did to us, it can be shown that my nation
during Sukarno leadership never got much national debt during
friendship of Nusantara and Soviet Russia at it's height
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> [quote]Stalin treated people based on how far their loyalty to
the state
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No, he didn't. He placed people in categories they didn't choose
and then treated them according to whether he himself thought
their category was loyal to the state, regardless whether
persons arbitrarily assigned to the category in question were
loyal on an individual level.[/quote]
And anyone can became category of people which Stalin consider
them as loyal, be a devout worker people, not collaborate with
the Nazi and communist's enemies, you will safe, can Hitler
consider "non-Aryan" people to be "Aryan", seeing that "Aryan"
is racial category, and people cannot change their racial
aspects on their body?
--- Quote ---
> [quote]if Stalin treated people based on their race, then
Stalin did not made murderous action to people who have similar
race background to him, like Holodomor event to "White European
Ukrainian" people, and made a mass murder on large scale even to
his own "White Russian" people, see the "Great Purge" event and
"de-Kulakisation" event
--- End Quote ---
What matters is that Stalin treated people based on categories
they themselves didn't choose.[/quote]
And the categories of people which Stalin wanted the category to
be oppressed is can be abandoned, different of categories of
people which Hitler provided, the categories which Hitler
provided cannot be abandoned by the people who are based on the
category which Hitler provided, for example, his categorization
of "Aryan" and "Non-Aryan"
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> [quote]And on actual history, Nazi people always used "ape" as
a symbol of inferiority
--- End Quote ---
Where?[/quote]
Alright, on this case, I not yet find that, but term "sub-human"
was exist in Nazi ideology, see this information below :
Source :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch#Sub-human_types
"Untermensch (German pronunciation:
[ˈʔʊntɐˌmɛnʃ] (About this
soundlisten), underman, sub-man, subhuman; plural:
Untermenschen) is a Nazi term for non-Aryan "inferior people"
often referred to as "the masses from the East", that is Jews,
Roma, and Slavs (Russians, Poles and Serbs etc).[1][2]
[color=red]The term was also applied to Mulatto and Black
people.[3] Jews were to be exterminated[4] in the Holocaust,
along with the Polish and Romani people, and the physically and
mentally disabled.[5][6] According to the Generalplan Ost, the
Slavic population of East-Central Europe was to be reduced in
part through mass murder in the Holocaust, with a majority
expelled to Asia and used as slave labor in the Reich. These
concepts were an important part of the Nazi racial policy.[7]"
Even Hitler categorization of people is using a category which
people cannot abandon that category, for example, categorization
of people based on their fixed racial background
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> [quote]if you get many approval from them
>
> ...
>
> if some of them agree with you
--- End Quote ---
Spoken like a true believer in democracy.[/quote]
Today people seeing the accuracy of facts based on how far the
facts are approved by many people, if you not want to battle
through this false concept of knowing the accuracy of facts, you
hardly to gain power in today political world which use concept
of popularity rather than quality, you can absolutely implement
the importance of quality after you control the political world
which it's concept are based on popularity
@Cthens, Hitlerist Negro
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> You've been thoroughly debunked and rebuked, repeatedly. At
this point you are just solidifying your inferiority.
--- End Quote ---
Not yet, there are still my facts about Hitler's ideology which
still cannot refuted by your facts of arguments, for example,
see this previous conversation post from me which still make me
stand that Hitler's ideology was endorsing racism :
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/questions-regarding-aryanism/msg8303/#msg8303
"Aryanism" people just repeating same answer that Hitler must
compromise with the political situation so he was did racist
behaviour, and I already shown that Hitler's racist action and
implementation of domestic policy still not changed after he was
in power for 10 years (From 1933 until 1943), so your claim
that Hitler was not made racist ideology is already debunked
with strong facts
And your opinion that Hitler was did many racist thing only
because compromise is also debunked by people named @v3456, from
his facts which he brought to this forum's debate, it clearly
proper with the historical facts on what he did after he gain
power in 1933 reflecting his ideological book which he already
wrote, see this information again :
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/questions-regarding-aryanism/msg8302/#msg8302
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/questions-regarding-aryanism/msg8341/#msg8341
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/questions-regarding-aryanism/msg8359/#msg8359
Hitler had an absolute power during 1940s and he can remove any
of his servants and colleagues who had racist views without
trouble, seeing that Nazi Germany's domination at it's high rate
of security, but of course he didn't, because he was racist,
contrary to what Stalin did during 1930s, even he did not
hesitate to almost removed all of servants and confidants whose
views are contrary to Stalin, and he heroically implemented
anti-racist law, see this conversation post again :
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/questions-regarding-aryanism/msg8293/#msg8293
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/aryanism's-hostility-towards-russia-and-eastern-european-people/msg8015/#msg8015
So, you consider me inferior because I defending myself from
racist ideology? You just unconsciously show your total
ignorance on seeing the racism of Nazi ideology
And you proud to be a Nazi, try to join the Nazi community
around you, if they accept you with fair treatment even tough
you have "black" racial background, then I agree with the
rebuttal facts of arguments which you provide, if you after
seeing this recent conversation post still humiliating me and
not try to give another facts of Hitler's ideology which we will
examine it together, I consider you just run out of arguments
and try to make me look bad on this forum, and if you consider
debating with me is wasting of time, it's your fault that you
let the forum open for debates
#Post#: 8792--------------------------------------------------
Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 14, 2021, 10:25 pm
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"I already shown that Hitler's racist action and implementation
of domestic policy still not changed after he was in power for
10 years (From 1933 until 1943), so your claim that Hitler was
not made racist ideology is already debunked with strong facts"
Hitler also never outlawed meat-eating after he was in power for
10 years. Does that imply Hitler himself supported meat-eating?
"Hitler had an absolute power during 1940s and he can remove any
of his servants and colleagues who had racist views without
trouble"
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler
Note how many of the conspirators were state/military officials.
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: guest30
Date: September 14, 2021, 11:02 pm
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@90sRetroFan, Hitlerist and Anglophile
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> Hitler also never outlawed meat-eating after he was in power
for 10 years. Does that imply Hitler himself supported
meat-eating?
--- End Quote ---
Yes, he kept radical view of vegan diet to himself, not entirely
to "Aryan White German" people
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> [quote]"Hitler had an absolute power during 1940s and he can
remove any of his servants and colleagues who had racist views
without trouble"
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler
Note how many of the conspirators were state/military
officials.[/quote]
See this information :
Source :
HTML https://www.quora.com/How-many-known-assassination-attempts-were-made-on-Stalin
Stalin keep implemented anti-racist policy as Soviet Russia's
official rule even tough he was experience many assassination
attempt, the difference is Stalin officially implemented
opposition to racism, and Hitler keep implemented racism
officially all of his entire live, whether he was got experience
on assassination attempt to him or not, if you want me to know
what are Stalin's anti-racist policies, I not bored to
remembering you, see this documentary :
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZqR2KEd_hk
See this research on Stalin's policy :
HTML https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1540-6563.2008.00230.x
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: guest62
Date: September 15, 2021, 4:00 pm
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What exactly are you “exposing”? Points we’ve repeatedly
refuted, not only to you but before on this forum and on the
main site. Meanwhile we have continually shown you Russia’s
inferiority (racist soviet policy, colonial empire, violent
inventions etc) which you keep coming up with excuses for.
You support Russia because you believe they aided your own
country. And therefore you will continue to make excuses.
Because you are not an anti-racist, you are an opportunist and a
tribalist.
You wear suits (western), you believe in human biodiversity
(western), you even compliment the fucking jews for their
violent innovation (western). You are the one who is
embarrassing himself.
You do not convince a person to become a national socialist, you
only help them realise they were a national socialist all along.
That is the truth of nobility. And you have none.
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: Dazhbog
Date: September 15, 2021, 5:03 pm
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--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> Because they already knew that facilities which shown to them
are giving them more luxury and better live quality, simple
--- End Quote ---
Before the Dutch came along, the Papuans surely had their own
standards of luxury and quality of life that did not require
industrialization, so what the Papuans who would like the Dutch
policy of industrialization to continue really want is luxury
and a better quality of life by Western standards.
And here I am even discounting that we advocate frugality and
look down on individuals who desire luxury of any sorts.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> Suharto also was pro-industrialization policy
--- End Quote ---
I took your comment as referring to the industrialization of
Papua, as this is what we were discussing before. I wasn't
referring to the industrialization of Nusantara as a whole.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> If supporting industrialization if without adopting Western
European racialist worldview, I don't think it was a really bad
thing
--- End Quote ---
Industrialization always entails violence. Thus, the relevant
question is whether this violence is retaliatory or initiated.
If a country committed to ending violence implements
industrialization as a means to defeat another country
initiating violence, the violence committed through
industrialization is retaliatory. If industrialization is
implemented for any other number of reasons, the violence
committed in the process is initiatory.
Industrialization that entails retaliatory violence is not bad.
Industrialization that entails initiatory violence is bad.
Western civilization (including communist countries) doesn't
strictly implement and the Papuan bootlickers of the Dutch don't
strictly desire industrialization in order to defeat a country
initiating violence, but for any other number of reasons,
therefore the violence they are or would be committing is or
would be initiatory. Consequently, in their case,
industrialization is or would be bad.
Sukarno and Suharto on the other hand might have implemented
industrialization to avoid recolonization by the Dutch and the
Portuguese, therefore the violence they committed might have
been retaliatory. If this is true, in their case,
industrialization was not bad, as far as it was implemented
towards that end.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> As long as any industrial facilities used by some community of
people, they are supporting industrialization way of life to be
continue, therefor such community are pro-industrialization
--- End Quote ---
No, they may be pro-industrialized society. The word
industrialization emphasizes the process of a society turning
into an industrialized one or becoming even more industrialized:
HTML https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/industrialization
--- Quote ---
> the act or process of industrializing : the widespread
development of industries in a region, country, culture, etc.
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> Since when Western European foreign policies was based on
shared ideals
--- End Quote ---
The toppling of Apartheid South Africa, the bombing of Serbia
etc.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> Soviet Russia [...] not demand us many reciprocity
--- End Quote ---
They might have simply been content having increased their
sphere of influence.
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> And anyone can became category of people which Stalin consider
them as loyal, be a devout worker people, not collaborate with
the Nazi and communist's enemies, you will safe
>
> ...
>
> And the categories of people which Stalin wanted the category
to be oppressed is can be abandoned
--- End Quote ---
No. From your own post:
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> Stalin did not not trust and such traitorous people and his
paranoia feeling made him to expel them as a whole
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote from: kameradbaren link ---
> Even Hitler categorization of people is using a category which
people cannot abandon that category
--- End Quote ---
No:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice#Conflict_with_Himmler_over_Jewish_heritage
--- Quote ---
> Even though Maurice had been a party member since 1919, taken
part in the abortive Beer Hall Putsch, for which he was awarded
the prestigious Blood Order, and been a bodyguard for Hitler,
Himmler considered him to be a serious security risk given his
"Jewish ancestry". Himmler recommended that Maurice be expelled
from the SS, along with other members of his family. To
Himmler's annoyance, Hitler stood by his old friend. In a secret
letter written on 31 August 1935, Hitler compelled Himmler to
make an exception for Maurice and his brothers, who were
informally declared "Honorary Aryans" and allowed to stay in the
SS.
--- End Quote ---
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: guest30
Date: September 15, 2021, 9:02 pm
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@arthuriana, Hitlerist, Anti-Russian, also confirmed Anglophile
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> What exactly are you “exposing”? Points we’ve repeatedly
refuted, not only to you but before on this forum and on the
main site. ...
--- End Quote ---
Your thoughts about Hitler based on "Aryanist" people's
interpretation not yet considered as the correct information,
seeing many of the facts of information about Hitler and his
ideology which I provide are mostly contrary to what you say
about Hitler and his ideology, you keep answer with the same
arguments, that Hitler was need to compromise with condition
which he faced, but that answer already refuted by another facts
of information from me and people named @v3456 about how Hitler
was implemented racist policies bot on his own nation and the
territory which his military troops occupied even after he gain
absolute political power for more than 5 years, from that, if
Hitler was not implemented anti-racist worldview because he need
to compromise is doubtful and even impossible, he will turned
Germany into a nation which opposed racism more quickly when he
gain dictatorial power, no need for more 9 years to postpone if
he was being racist really just for the sake compromise with
society around him, but of course it was not happen, because
indeed he was a racist leader, even during 1920s before he
gained power, Hitler express his true feelings on how he saw the
"white" people in Europe, the British colonial Empire, and what
he wanted on Europe
--- Quote ---
> Meanwhile we have continually shown you Russia’s inferiority
(racist soviet policy, colonial empire, violent inventions etc)
which you keep coming up with excuses for.
--- End Quote ---
I already told you about how Soviet Russia already implemented
anti-racist law during Stalin leadership, but of course you
ignore that, even Hitler did not implemented the clear
anti-racist law but you still believe that Hitler was not racist
like the fantasy of Hitler which "Aryanist" people want us to
believe, and I already told you that racism which happened in
Soviet Russia is because the attitude of their ordinary
citizens, not because the state officially sponsored that thing,
and people named @v3456 already told to you that Soviet Russia
already made a good attitude to all people inside her regardless
of their racial background to be treated fairly not like what
Tsarist colonial Russia did before communist people takeover
Russia, if you consider that good approach by Soviet Russia
still "colonial", then the problem is on you, by the way, on how
violent inventions happened in Russia, Western European nations
also invented many violent things like tank (Invented by British
(United Kingdom) people), concentration camp (Invented by
British people), racist ideology (Firstly invented by British
people), industrialization (Firstly happened in British),
"United States of America", "Canada", "Australia", and "New
Zealand"
(All of nation which I mention are invented by "White European"
British people), Russia just try to emulate some of their
worldview and inventions to make her became strong power
rivaling the racist Western Europe, you of course ignore that
thing, because you not want the Western European nations which
you love have bad and evil reputation to the world community
Russia's inferiority still can be forgiven rather than Western
European nation's moral inferiority, and I doubt that you will
realize that, because only Anglophile and fantasy about Hitler's
ideology which tied to your brain
--- Quote ---
> You support Russia because you believe they aided your own
country. And therefore you will continue to make excuses.
Because you are not an anti-racist, you are an opportunist and a
tribalist.
--- End Quote ---
Not just Russia aided my nation, they are the first strong
nation who helped our nation to gain total independence, of
course you will considered Russia as a racist nation, she ever
helped our nation with gave strong military devices for us, and
today Russia always condemn the nations of Anglophile and
Western Europe on their harmful action on interfering other
nation's interest, but of course you with Anglophile propaganda
ignore what I say, show that you know little about world
politics but not want to be educated, you just make shame on
yourself on this forum
--- Quote ---
> You wear suits (western), you believe in human biodiversity
(western), you even compliment the **** jews for their violent
innovation (western). You are the one who is embarrassing
himself.
--- End Quote ---
Wearing Western suits is not a problem as long as our behaviour
are good, and human biodiversity was a fact, you cannot deny
that, I believe that thing because it was factual, not it was
"Western", and I admire the Jewish people, not support them,
since when I said anything which support Jewish people, you just
making it up
--- Quote ---
> You do not convince a person to become a national socialist,
you only help them realise they were a national socialist all
along. That is the truth of nobility. And you have none.
--- End Quote ---
I not want to convince people to become a national socialist, I
want to expose that they are following racist worldview from
becoming a national socialist, and your ignorance only help them
realise they were a people who support racist policies all
along. That is the truth about your ignorance. and you finally
expose yourself to that attitude
@Dazhbog, Hitlerist and Anglophile
--- Quote ---
> Before the Dutch came along, the Papuans surely had their own
standards of luxury and quality of life that did not require
industrialization, so what the Papuans who would like the Dutch
policy of industrialization to continue really want is luxury
and a better quality of life by Western standards.
--- End Quote ---
And the fact is Papuan people want the more luxury and
comfortable living from Western standards which already shown to
them, so this is task of Nusantara government to give what they
want after they integrate them as fellow Nusantara people, not
abandon them like what racist leader Suharto did to them
--- Quote ---
> [quote]Suharto also was pro-industrialization policy
--- End Quote ---
I took your comment as referring to the industrialization of
Papua, as this is what we were discussing before. I wasn't
referring to the industrialization of Nusantara as a
whole.[/quote]
And the reality is Papuan people also want that
industrialization progress for the sake of better live quality,
but Nusantara under Suharto regime abandon them and instead just
made better quality of live to Western Nusantara people, that is
unfairness, if you consider industrialization were bad, then you
must condemn Suharto regime's attempt to industrialize Western
Nusantara too
--- Quote ---
> Sukarno and Suharto on the other hand might have implemented
industrialization to avoid recolonization by the Dutch and the
Portuguese, therefore the violence they committed might have
been retaliatory. If this is true, in their case,
industrialization was not bad, as far as it was implemented
towards that end.
--- End Quote ---
That is same to what Stalin did to Russian people, to avoid the
ruthless invasion of Krauts during World War 1 and made Russia
can defend their land from evil capitalist Western European
power, but of course you will ignore my saying because your
Anglophilic doctrine tied to your brain, and the difference
between how Sukarno and Suharto industrialize Nusantara is,
Sukarno give that thing without discriminated people from other
racial background, but Suharto was did that
--- Quote ---
> [quote]As long as any industrial facilities used by some
community of people, they are supporting industrialization way
of life to be continue, therefor such community are
pro-industrialization
--- End Quote ---
No, they may be pro-industrialized society. The word
industrialization emphasizes the process of a society turning
into an industrialized one or becoming even more industrialized:
HTML https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/industrialization[/quote]
Then, they still support way of life which required
industrialized condition which is Western European nation's
invention
--- Quote ---
> [quote]Soviet Russia [...] not demand us many reciprocity
--- End Quote ---
They might have simply been content having increased their
sphere of influence.[/quote]
No, Soviet Russia not forcibly wanted the nation whom she helped
to became their dominated territory, it was Western European
nations who did that, even my nation was forced to be allied
with them through evil way that is coup d' etat to our founding
father Sukarno, Soviet Russia approach to the colonized nations
through help the colonized people with their education of
socialism, give them weapon to resist the colonizer people, and
teach them how to govern a nation under socialism, if Soviet
Russia did things that evil to colonized people, the world will
hate Soviet Russia rather than Western European capitalist
domination to the colonized people during the Cold War era, look
Patrice Lumumba the leader of Congo, Sukarno leader of
Nusantara, Ho Chi Minh leader of Vietnam, Kim Il Sung leader of
North Korea, Mao Zedong leader of China, Fidel Castro leader of
Cuba, Idi Amin Dada leader of Uganda, Gamal Abdel Nasser leader
of Egypt, all of them can made their nation and their people
able to resist Western European colonialism because the
assistance both economically and militarily from Soviet Russia
and they not feel that they was oppressed by Soviet Russia, all
of them were feel hatred to Western European colonialist
nations, so, it was Western European nations who made contact
with all of non-Western European nations just for the sake
increasing the sphere of influence which they (non-Western
European nations) not wanted that but they forced to accept
that, but of course your Anglophilic and pro-Western Europe mind
prevent you to not ignoring that facts
--- Quote ---
> [quote]And anyone can became category of people which Stalin
consider them as loyal, be a devout worker people, not
collaborate with the Nazi and communist's enemies, you will safe
--- End Quote ---
...
And the categories of people which Stalin wanted the category to
be oppressed is can be abandoned
No. From your own post:
--- Quote ---
> Stalin did not not trust and such traitorous people and his
paranoia feeling made him to expel them as a whole
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
And Stalin did not do that thing to all people who are have
other than "White" racial background, and he not did that
because racial reason, different to what Hitler did to
"non-White" people if you see the documentary on how "Colored"
people came to Soviet Russia under Stalin which I already
provide to this forum on previous conversation post
--- Quote ---
> [quote]Even Hitler categorization of people is using a
category which people cannot abandon that category
--- End Quote ---
No:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice#Conflict_with_Himmler_over_Jewish_heritage
Even though Maurice had been a party member since 1919, taken
part in the abortive Beer Hall Putsch, for which he was awarded
the prestigious Blood Order, and been a bodyguard for Hitler,
Himmler considered him to be a serious security risk given his
"Jewish ancestry". Himmler recommended that Maurice be expelled
from the SS, along with other members of his family. To
Himmler's annoyance, Hitler stood by his old friend. In a secret
letter written on 31 August 1935, Hitler compelled Himmler to
make an exception for Maurice and his brothers, who were
informally declared "Honorary Aryans" and allowed to stay in the
SS.[/quote]
Because there is Jewish people who are also had "White European"
racial background, that is why Hitler give pardon to some of
Jewish people, and Hitler never did that thing to people of
"colored" racial background, there is no every single "colored"
people who had access to inner circle to Hitler or became
Hitler's high ranking officials like what Emil Maurice did
regardless his Jewish ancestry
#Post#: 8814--------------------------------------------------
Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: SirGalahad
Date: September 15, 2021, 9:13 pm
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--- Quote ---
> Because there is Jewish people who are also had "White
European" racial background, that is why Hitler give pardon to
some of Jewish people
--- End Quote ---
This argument doesn't really make sense. Virtually all of the
Jews thrown into camps by Nazi Germany were white. If that were
the reason for the pardoning, then there would have been no need
for the camps in the first place since they would all basically
fit the criteria you're describing.
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: guest30
Date: September 15, 2021, 10:06 pm
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@SirGalahad, Emily's Best Friend, Fellow Nazi Comrade, confirmed
Anglophile
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> [quote]Because there is Jewish people who are also had "White
European" racial background, that is why Hitler give pardon to
some of Jewish people
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This argument doesn't really make sense. Virtually all of the
Jews thrown into camps by Nazi Germany were white. If that were
the reason for the pardoning, then there would have been no need
for the camps in the first place since they would all basically
fit the criteria you're describing.[/quote]
What I mean is, Hitler can tolerate some people whom he
considered as enemy of the state if they have "White European"
blood, and Hitler cannot tolerate some people whom he considered
as enemy of the state if they have "Colored Non-White European"
blood
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 15, 2021, 10:14 pm
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From your own link:
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> In 1943, Operation "Long jump" - was approved by Adolf Hitler
and headed by Ernst Kaltenbrunner. German intelligence, the
Nazis, developed a special operation to destroy Stalin and some
other heads of state-opponents of Nazi Germany. The attempt was
to take place at the Tehran conference. Soviet
counterintelligence in time revealed the German conspiracy,
thanks to which not only Stalin, but Churchill and Roosevelt
were saved.
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Stalin saved the Anglos that you claim you are opposed to.
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> Wearing Western suits is not a problem as long as our
behaviour are good
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Indonesia
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> The climate of Indonesia is almost entirely tropical.
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Do you know how much energy is wasted on air conditioning every
day because Eurocentrists insist on wearing suits in tropical
countries?
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Re: Questions Regarding Aryanism
DIR By: guest30
Date: September 15, 2021, 10:49 pm
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@90sRetroFan, Hitlerist and Anglophile
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> In 1943, Operation "Long jump" - was approved by Adolf Hitler
and headed by Ernst Kaltenbrunner. German intelligence, the
Nazis, developed a special operation to destroy Stalin and some
other heads of state-opponents of Nazi Germany. The attempt was
to take place at the Tehran conference. Soviet
counterintelligence in time revealed the German conspiracy,
thanks to which not only Stalin, but Churchill and Roosevelt
were saved.
>
> Stalin saved the Anglos that you claim you are opposed to.
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Because without forced cooperation with Western European
nations, Stalin military troops are weak on quality if compared
to Hitler's Germany which have best tanks with enhanced optics
and also the superiority of their fighter planes over Soviet
Russia's fighter planes, and he (Stalin) need assistance from a
nation which have strong and better quality military power in
order to got advanced military weapons too which match to
Hitler's war machine, and the only option is temporarily
cooperate with Western European nation which Stalin hated them
personally because their capitalist and colonialist world view,
only Western European nations United States and Britain which on
that time had advanced weapons which it's quality match with
Hitler's military war machine, without that action, socialism
will be totally destroyed, and white supremacy continue without
strong resistance, and you will know that Stalin's personal view
was implemented after 1945, see this information :
"In 1945 the USSR became one of the five permanent members of
the UN Security Council—along with the United States, Britain,
France, and China, giving it the right to veto any of the
Security Council's resolutions (see Soviet Union and the United
Nations). By 1947, American and European anger at Soviet control
over Eastern Europe led to a Cold War, with Western Europe
organized economically with large sums of Marshall Plan money
from Washington. Opposition to the danger of Soviet expansion
formed the basis of the NATO military alliance in 1949. There
was no hot war, but the Cold War was fought diplomatically and
politically across the world by the Soviet and NATO blocks."
Source :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_the_Soviet_Union
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> [quote]The climate of Indonesia is almost entirely tropical.
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Do you know how much energy is wasted on air conditioning every
day because Eurocentrists insist on wearing suits in tropical
countries?[/quote]
Do you know that using air conditioner is make yourself
comfortable?
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