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       Re: Youth > Maturity
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 24, 2023, 10:18 pm
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  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-beach-student-allegedly-told-003442261.html
       [quote]According to the families of four 11-year-old Jewish
       girls at the school, another 11-year-old classmates told the
       girls "revenge is beautiful," and "all Israelis and Jews should
       be killed."[/quote]
       It is that simple.
       [quote]"Kids are innocent, and the fact that our 11-year-olds
       are losing their innocence at that age, it's such a shame," said
       Rabbi Joshua Kalev.[/quote]
       The kids who made the statements are the innocent ones who
       intuitively understand that evil should be eradicated as
       thoroughly as possible! It is adults (including Kalev) telling
       them that such thinking is wrong that makes kids lose their
       innocence!
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       Re: Youth > Maturity
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 17, 2023, 5:01 pm
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       Westerners are panicking:
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/hamas-historical-ignorance-074500924.html
       [quote]The shocking support among young adults for Hamas’
       assault draws on historic ignorance and crude postmodern notions
       of justice and victimhood, in which torture and kidnapping were
       rebranded a justifiable response to “colonial
       privilege.”[/quote]
       Why should retaliatory violence not be a justifiable response to
       initiated violence?
       (Also, punishment is not "torture". The aim of torture is to
       alter behaviour via inflicting pain. The aim of punishment is
       simply to inflict pain because that is what the targets
       deserve.)
       [quote]In 1978, alarmed by test results from poor, minority
       students at a Richmond community college who were ignorant of
       foundational historic figures and events, scholar E.D. Hirsch
       began researching the role of background knowledge in reading
       comprehension.
       ...
       Those engaged in preparing a new generation of teachers rejected
       Hirsch’s belief in the importance of knowledge as “elitist,
       Eurocentric and focused too heavily on rote memorization,” as a
       Virginia magazine profile of the famed UVA professor described.
       Indeed, a decade later, one of us taught alongside the genial,
       soft-spoken Hirsch, only to see fellow UVA education school
       faculty quietly steer their students away from this dangerous
       figure.[/quote]
       About Hirsch:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._D._Hirsch
       [quote]Categories: ... Jewish American academics[/quote]
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       Well done Counterculture-era teachers for rejecting Hirsch!
       Back to first link:
       [quote]As a teacher said to one of us recently regarding
       developments in Israel and Gaza: “Many kids have little to no
       understanding of the historical context. I feel overwhelmed
       trying to explain things to them in a side comment here or
       there.”[/quote]
       Here is all the historical context involved. They stole the land
       the first time:
  HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/reminder-we-exist/
       [quote]    [quote]Daniel Gordis, senior vice president at the
       Shalem College in Jerusalem
       …
       the history of Jews and Israel should not be viewed through
       the same lens as the racial and political history of the United
       States. Israel’s experience is distinct, he said, because of
       Judaism’s biblical ties to its land[/quote]
       Translation: “Because we stole the land the first time, we
       should be allowed to steal it a second time.” Yes, really:
       Book of Joshua – Wikipedia
       [quote]    A powerful multi-national (or more accurately,
       multi-ethnic) coalition headed by the king of Hazor, the most
       important northern city, is defeated with Yahweh’s help. Hazor
       itself is then captured and destroyed.
       …
       Joshua “carries out a systematic campaign against the
       civilians of Canaan — men, women and children — that amounts to
       genocide.”[61] In doing this he is carrying out herem as
       commanded by Yahweh in Deuteronomy 20:17: “You shall not leave
       alive anything that breathes”. The purpose is to drive out and
       dispossess the Canaanites, with the implication that there are
       to be no treaties with the enemy, no mercy, and no
       intermarriage.[7]:175 “The extermination of the nations
       glorifies Yahweh as a warrior and promotes Israel’s claim to the
       land,” while their continued survival “explores the themes of
       disobedience and penalty and looks forward to the story told in
       Judges and Kings.”[42]:18–19
       …
       Joshua has become an iconic figure for the Jewish Zionist
       movement,[78] and many Israeli settlements sit on land taken by
       force from Palestinians.[79] David Ben-Gurion saw in the war
       narrative of Joshua an ideal basis for a unifying national myth
       for his new State of Israel, framed against a common enemy, the
       Arabs.[80] He met with politicians and scholars such as Bible
       scholar Shemaryahu Talmon to discuss Joshua’s supposed conquests
       and later published a book of the meeting transcripts; in a
       lecture at Ben-Gurion’s home, archaeologist Yigael Yadin argued
       for the historicity of the Israelite military campaign pointing
       to the conquests of Hazor, Bethel, and Lachish.[80] Zionism thus
       presented the 1948 war (the war which saw the creation of the
       State of Israel) as a “miraculous” clearing of the land based on
       Joshua, and the Bible as a mandate for the expulsion of the
       Palestinians.[81][/quote][/quote]
       and then they stole it a second time with British assistance:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/israel/msg352/#msg352
       [quote]To recap, the territory bequeathed to Israel by the
       Balfour Declaration:
       en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
       was from the territory covered by the British Mandate for
       Palestine:
       en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instr
       ument)
       which itself refers to British colonial territory of Mandatory
       Palestine:
       en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
       If property belongs to A, but is stolen by B who then gives it
       to C, C has no just ownership of it. On the contrary, if C is
       aware that it is stolen property and yet accepts it (without
       immediately returning it to A), C is complicit in the
       theft.[/quote]
       Back to first link:
       [quote]This teacher knows that geography, history, religion,
       economics, and philosophy are essential to understanding the
       context of these attacks. But these are subjects that too few
       schools teach coherently or consistently. Last year K-12
       teachers told RAND that it’s more important for civics education
       to promote environmental activism than “knowledge of social,
       political, and civic institutions.”[/quote]
       Environmental activism also helps to understand Israel vs
       Palestine:
       [img]
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       [img]
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  HTML https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Anders-Jaegerskog/publication/43244516/figure/fig3/AS:340909628641283@1458290597288/Differences-between-Israel-and-Palestine-in-total-water-consumption-million-cubic-metres.png
       [img width=1280
       height=914]
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       bal/assets/uploads/palestine-climate-justice-shireen-17-03-22-im
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       Who should be genocided first on environmental considerations?
       [quote]As academic rigor and traditional norms have retreated,
       the space has increasingly been filled by moral relativism and
       contempt for Western civilization.[/quote]
       It is you who lack academic rigour. Moral relativists would
       logically not have contempt for Western civilization as they
       would find it impossible to consider Western civilization either
       better or worse than any other civilization. It is anti-Western
       moral absolutists (a.k.a. True Leftists) who are able to clearly
       say that Western civilization is by far the most inferior
       civilization in all of history, and hence have contempt for it.
       [quote]The result is progressive students who hail Hamas as an
       ally[/quote]
       No, these are regressive students:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/leftists-against-progressivism/
       Progressive students are the ones who look forward to quantum
       computing, AI and space travel. No one thinks Hamas is
       contributing to any of these fields. We like Hamas precisely
       because they are not contributing to these fields!
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       Re: Youth > Maturity
       By: rp Date: May 15, 2024, 9:30 am
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       Re: Youth > Maturity
       By: rp Date: August 23, 2024, 5:45 pm
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