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Re: Plebian Hubris
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 18, 2024, 10:34 pm
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Re: Plebian Hubris
By: rp Date: April 19, 2024, 12:08 am
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Which group is more dangerous:
"White" hubristic plebians (classical liberal types), or "White"
"aristocrats" (anti Enlightenment/traditional Renaissance
types)?
The former group outnumbers the latter, but the latter group is
the ideological head of the snake (Western Civilization).
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Re: Plebian Hubris
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 24, 2024, 7:27 pm
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Re: Plebian Hubris
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 24, 2024, 5:49 pm
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It's OK for Capitol rioters to be "white":
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-insults-judge-sentenced-him-215559676.html
[quote]Man insults judge who sentenced him to 12 years in prison
for attacking police during Capitol riot
...
Christopher Joseph Quaglin argued with and insulted U.S.
District Judge Trevor McFadden before and after the judge handed
him one of the longest prison sentences among hundreds of
Capitol riot cases.
“You're Trump's worst mistake of 2016,” Quaglin told McFadden,
who was nominated to the court by then-President Donald Trump in
2017.
Quaglin, 38, joined the mob of Trump supporters who stormed the
Capitol. He injured a police officer when he choked and tackled
him to the ground. Quaglin assaulted other officers with stolen
police shields, metal bike racks and pepper spray. He clashed
with police for roughly three hours while wearing an American
flag-themed “Make America Great Again” sweatshirt.
...
Quaglin complained about his jail conditions and pushed
conspiracy theories about the Jan. 6 siege during his rambling
remarks in the courtroom.[/quote]
And still he gets off lightly:
[quote]Prosecutors urged the judge to sentence Quaglin to 14
years in prison. They said he was one of the most violent
rioters on Jan. 6, when a mob of Donald Trump supporters
disrupted the joint session of Congress for certifying President
Joe Biden's 2020 electoral victory.
The judge convicted Quaglin of six separate assaults on police.
Prosecutors say he struck or pushed another dozen officers.
...
Quaglin traveled from his home in North Brunswick, New Jersey,
to attend then-President Donald Trump's “Stop the Steal” rally
near the White House on Jan. 6. Leaving the rally early, Quaglin
recorded a video of himself as he marched to the Capitol wearing
a helmet, a gas mask and a backpack.
After storming barricades near Peace Circle, Quaglin repeatedly
attacked officers who were trying to hold off the mob. Capitol
Police Sgt. Troy Robinson was injured when Quaglin grabbed him
by the neck and tackled him to the ground.
“Quaglin’s attack ignited a short brawl,” prosecutors wrote.
“With Quaglin on top of Sergeant Robinson, other rioters came to
Quaglin’s assistance and chaos broke loose.”
Quaglin “waged a relentless siege” as he joined other rioters in
attacking police in a tunnel on the Capitol’s Lower West
Terrace, prosecutors said. He helped another rioter steal a
shield from an officer. He pepper sprayed several officers in
the face. And he joined the mob's collective “heave ho” push
against a police line.
“Quaglin was part of some of the most gruesome attacks in the
tunnel as he worked with other rioters to ensure that officers
were under constant attack,” prosecutors wrote.
Quaglin later celebrated and bragged about his participation in
the riot.
"It was a great time. I got bumps and bruises. And we’re having
a good time,” he said in a video posted on social media.[/quote]
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Re: Plebian Hubris
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 7, 2024, 7:39 pm
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0:58-1:45:
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Re: Plebian Hubris
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 27, 2024, 10:02 pm
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Re: Plebian Hubris
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 15, 2024, 6:00 pm
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Enemy article:
HTML https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2024/09/15/the-outdoor-smoking-ban-in-the-uk/
[quote]Two-Tier Keir’s motives were obvious but they are far
less obvious with regard to his proposed banning of smoking
outside pubs. This is what makes the policy, overtly a matter of
improving public health, all the more pernicious. It is dressed
up as something noble — a logical extension of the banning of
smoking in pubs which began in 2007 — but, as with everything
that emerges from the Labour Party, it is no such thing. It
reflects paranoia, Machiavellianism and plain leftist
resentment.[/quote]
Non-smokers forced to inhale secondhand smoke of smokers is
violence initiated by smokers. Therefore smoking should only
occur in locations where non-smokers are guaranteed to not be
present. Pedestrians walking past pubs will include non-smokers.
Therefore a smoking ban outside pubs is perfectly justified.
[quote]the pub is dangerous: it is a breeding ground for
discontentment and dissent. Banning smoking in the vicinity of
pubs will keep working-class people, many of whom smoke, away
from The Royal Oak and The Jolly Farmer, and industry leaders
agree that it will lead to pubs closing down. So, pubs will shut
down, meaning that working-class discontentment is easier to
monitor and, so, repress.[/quote]
Why do working-class smokers have to smoke at pubs, where
non-smokers are likely to be affected? What does this tell us
about their quality as people, compared to those who would
voluntarily refrain from smoking when they are aware it could
affect non-smokers? So why should the most inferior be exempt
from rules that apply to everyone else?
[quote]The pub represents a lack of control: people get tipsy or
drunk and lose their inhibitions to varying degrees. They might,
in this alternative state of consciousness, make remarks that
incite others to be critical of the Labour Party and immigration
...
The pub also makes working-class people happy. They can relax
after a long day with a few beers and some cigarettes with their
friends and other like-minded people. But why would Labour want
them to be remotely happy? It is far preferable that they are
depressed people who see life as meaningless and lose the will
to fight to improve their lot[/quote]
They could simply go to the pub without smoking. If they refuse
to, it is their choice.
[quote]Also, it should not be forgotten that there is something
quite profound about English pub culture. In going to the pub,
you are not merely having a drink. You are participating in a
ritual in which your ancestors participated all the back to the
Middle Ages, with some pubs being hundreds of years old. This
link to the past is reflected in pub names that refer to
pre-industrial England, historical events, English kings and
noblemen, English folklore and long-dead national heroes: The
Jolly Farmer, The Royal Oak (when the future King Charles I hid
in an oak tree to escape the Roundheads), The Old King’s Head,
The Foley Arms, The Green Man, and The Duke of Wellington.
[/quote]
Pub-goers in the Middle Ages did not smoke, as tobacco was only
brought to England after the beginning of the colonization of
the New World. So if connection to the past is the point,
present-day pub-goers should emulate Middle Ages pub-goers and
not smoke either. (We could even accuse "white" smokers of
celebrating colonization of the New World by smoking!)
[quote]And it’s nothing to do with health. We are evolved, in
effect, to be farm labourers in a context of food scarcity and
we are now sedentary. Consequently, we will get fat. Tobacco,
unhealthy as it is, is an appetite suppressant. Get rid of it
and, as we have seen over the last 40 years, working-class
people, who tend to have relatively poor impulse control as I
have explored in Woke Eugenics, will simply get fat.[/quote]
Blame your inferior blood. Besides, you are still allowed to
smoke at home. If you need tobacco to suppress your appetite,
you can do it before going to the pub.
[quote]even Cromwell’s Puritan Interregnum, between 1649 and
1660, didn’t close the pubs. . . . Ultimately, of course, the
English were pushed too far by the Puritans. There was a
counter-revolution and the Two-Tier Keirs of their day were
publically hanged, cut down (in some cases while still alive),
castrated (with their testicles burned before their Puritan
eyes), disembowelled, beheaded, and drawn and quartered . .
.[/quote]
See the title of this topic.
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Re: Plebian Hubris
By: rp Date: October 8, 2024, 1:16 pm
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Scorched Earth Policy
@Scearpo
The Sovereign Citizen meme occupies a category of mind virus at
the same intensity and capacity of schizophrenic gangstalk
claimants or pyramid scheme enthusiasts. What makes them so
irritating is that they reject the fundamental mechanism by
which authority is derived: violence.
The Sovereign Citizen is a byproduct of a tolerant governance.
It is a glitch in societal consciousness that arises through the
tolerance, patience, or at the very least, mandated litigation
opportunity our justice system provides.
The Sovereign Citizen is born through unintelligent observation
of legal practices. They have grasped a bare morsel of intuition
that law, code, and perhaps language itself is like a system of
magic spells which must be cast in very specific ways in very
specific contexts to manifest change in reality in the user’s
favor. Like cavemen looking at wizards, they mistakenly believe
that they can replicate this effect themselves merely through
the nitpicking of technicality.
This delusion is very much a product of 20th century boomer
mentality. The generations who lived through the later half of
the 20th century lived under a relatively stable society which
provided a reasonable standard of living in exchange for
adhering to rules and systems. These systems were functioning
for so long that the society which benefitted from them had no
longer processed the deeper meaning behind why they existed. As
a result, at least a portion of the population began to treat
existence itself as an automated feeding mechanism. Like
hamsters pressing buttons on a food pellet dispenser, the
average boomer developed a mental process for how the world
works based simply on immediate cause and effect with little
consideration given to realpolitik or human nature.
Eventually, the Sovereign Citizen and the concept of pseudolaw
developed in the later half of the 20th century, a cognitohazard
developing out of the delusion that law and rhetoric are the
engine behind consequence rather than simply the byproduct of
it.
The Sovereign Citizen fundamentally fails to understand the most
basic truth about the law:
Authority is derived from violence.
A police officer has power because he has a gun and can shoot
you with it.
The police are not constrained by words, they are constrained by
agreements with a larger group that represents the state.
Defying the police by force endeavors a cause and effect chain
in which if you are successful in any significant capacity, your
next requirement for absolute sovereignty demands defying the
will of the military.
The only way to do this is if you have resources and manpower.
The only way to accrue that is by having capital, logistic
supply, and the cooperation of at least thousands of other
people. The only way to achieve these things is by aligning with
a mass of people and their incentives. Doing this inevitably
forces you to adhere to the same agreements and behavior
pathways which end up becoming the most commonly recognized
basic laws nearly every country has.
Are there unjust laws? Sure. You have the natural right to defy
them surreptitiously. This is called being a criminal, almost
every single person in civilization has committed at least one
very minor crime in their life.
What makes the existence of Sovereign Citizens so infuriatingly
stupid
is that they want to have their cake and eat it too. They
essentially want the extended sovereignty criminals partake in
without accepting the inherent risk and diligence criminals must
perform to not get caught.
There are in fact wizards who can cast word spells and contort
the willpower of authority figures towards navigating the gray
areas of law, these are called lawyers and the good ones are
expensive. The Sovereign Citizen arrogantly attempts to
replicate their ability without training, without having to pay
for it.
The only truly sovereign entities on earth are the ones that can
launch nuclear missiles, and none of them are individual people
HTML https://x.com/hartgoat/status/1835523045743636912
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Washingtons ghost
@hartgoat
I always wondered how someone using the sovereign citizen excuse
would play out in court…
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Re: Plebian Hubris
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 8, 2024, 5:08 pm
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This explanation is overcomplicating it. The truth is much
simpler. Hint: would self-declared "Sovereign Citizens" support
"non-whites" also claiming to be "Sovereign Citizens"?
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Re: Plebian Hubris
By: rp Date: October 8, 2024, 5:29 pm
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The guy in the video is "non White". But I have noticed that
"Whites" who would otherwise support sovereign citizens are
suddenly criticizing him.
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