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       The Difference between Islamic and Europe on Slave Treatment
       By: antihellenistic Date: October 6, 2022, 6:54 am
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       See this quoted sentences from the documentary video :
       Source : A Day In The Life Of A White Slave In The Ottoman
       Empire - A Day In History (27th January 2022)
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd06PZG3u-o
       [quote](Minute 00 : 23 to 00 : 47)
       "...unlike most examples of slavery, slaves in the Ottoman
       Empire were white. Slavery in the Ottoman Empire stretched
       throughout its empire. Even after the attempts to abolish
       slavery in the late 19th century (1890s). Especially in the
       early centuries the caliphate, slaves taken during small wars or
       organized expeditions ordered by the Sultan throughout the
       continents of Eastern and Southern Europe, the Balkans and the
       Caucasus region."
       ...
       (Minute 02:04 to 02:12)
       Almost the available resources for slavery in the Ottoman Empire
       were committed to white Western European Christians and those
       who were banished from their royal existence.
       (Minute 02:34 to 03:10)
       First, it is important to know that the teachings of Islam have
       a different way of carrying out slavery compared to other
       religions and nations which also enslave. The Qur'an explains
       that slaves should be treated with kindness and encouraged to be
       freed for slaves who are already seen as loyal. The Qur'an also
       teaches that the slave is morally equal to the master of his
       slave but is of a lower status and is not distinguished from the
       color of his skin.
       Even so, dark-skinned cripples from "Sub-Saharan Africa"
       ​​were sold for less than their healthy white
       counterparts."
       ...
       (Minutes 04:16 to 04:47)
       Most experienced slavery for 7 years for blacks. And 9 years for
       those who are white to show their loyalty before they are
       released and can get a better job as a foreman or supervisor.
       They could become slaves by contract agreement, clients of their
       former slave masters and receive a salary. Evidence from sharia
       records shows that recently freed slaves were usually ready and
       receptive to Ottoman society especially in small towns and
       enjoyed economic and social independence.
       (Minutes 08:45 to 09:05)
       The slavery of white people in the Ottoman Empire was not
       black-and-white but was not intended as seen in other areas and
       other times. Our lack of sources paints an unfinished picture of
       slavery and how slaves were treated in the Caliphate. But what
       we do know is that it's varied and not all that bad as it was in
       [color=red]Transatlantic slavery[/color][/quote]
       #Post#: 15989--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Difference between Islami and Europe on Slave Treatment
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 6, 2022, 3:27 pm
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       [quote]can get a better job[/quote]
       That is an understatement. Let's face it: the Ottomans were
       rabid reproductive Eurocentrists obsessed with making their
       offspring successively "whiter" every generation. This has been
       the case from the beginning:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Brankovi%C4%87
       [quote]Mara Branković (Serbian Cyrillic:
       Мара
       Бранковић)
       or Mara Despina Hatun (c. 1416 – 14 September 1487), also known
       as Sultana Marija or Amerissa, was the daughter of Serbian
       monarch George Branković and Eirene Kantakouzene. As the
       daughter of Despot George, wife of Sultan Murad II and
       stepmother of Mehmed II, she came to play a significant role in
       diplomatic negotiations of the Ottoman Empire.[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BClbahar_Hatun_(mother_of_Bayezid_II)
       [quote]According to Salome Woronzow, she was daughter of
       Stanisha Kastrioti, brother of Skanderbeg, the famous Albanian
       Lord. Therefore, Gülbahar Hatun was either of Albanian or Greek
       origin.[7][8][9][10][/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87i%C3%A7ek_Hatun
       [quote]The origins of Çiçek are controversial. Serbian, Greek,
       Venetian or French origins are attributed to her.[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurbanu_Sultan
       [quote]Nurbanu Sultan (Ottoman Turkish: نور
       بانو
       سلطان; "Queen of light", c.
       1525[1] – 7 December 1583) was Haseki Sultan of the Ottoman
       Empire as the principal consort of Sultan Selim II (reign
       1566–1574), his legal wife, as well Valide Sultan (empress
       mother) as the mother of Sultan Murad III (reign 1574–1583). She
       was one of the most prominent figures during the time of the
       Sultanate of Women. Conflicting theories ascribe her a Venetian,
       Jewish[2] or Greek[3] origin.[/quote]
       etc.. And it only further accelerated with the opportunity to
       reproduce with "white" slaves:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurrem_Sultan
       [quote]Hurrem Sultan (Turkish pronunciation:
       [hyɾˈɾæm suɫˈtan], Ottoman Turkish:
       خُرّم
       سلطان, romanized: Ḫurrem
       Sulṭān, Modern Turkish: Hürrem Sultan; c. 1500;1502 –
       15 April 1558), also known as Roxelana (Ukrainian:
       Роксолана;
       lit. 'the Ruthenian one'), was the chief consort and legal
       wife of the Ottoman sultan Suleiman the Magnificent. She became
       one of the most powerful and influential women in Ottoman
       history as well as a prominent and controversial figure during
       the era known as the Sultanate of Women.
       Born in Ruthenia (then an eastern region of the Kingdom of
       Poland, now Rohatyn, Ukraine) to a Ruthenian Orthodox priest,
       Hurrem was captured by Crimean Tatars during a slave raid and
       eventually taken to Istanbul, the Ottoman capital.[2] She
       entered the Imperial Harem, rose through the ranks and became
       the favourite of Sultan Suleiman. Breaking Ottoman tradition, he
       married Hurrem, making her his legal wife; sultans had
       previously married only foreign free noble ladies. She was the
       first imperial consort to receive the title Haseki Sultan.
       Hurrem remained in the sultan's court for the rest of her life,
       enjoying a close and faithful relationship with her husband, and
       having six children with him, including the future sultan, Selim
       II. She was the grandmother of Murad III.[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safiye_Sultan_(Haseki_of_Murad_III)
       [quote]According to Venetian sources, Safiye was of Albanian
       origin, born in the Dukagjin highlands but was confused for her
       origins with Nurbanu Sultan.[2] Her original name was Sofia.
       In 1563, at the age of 13, she was presented as a slave to the
       future Murad III by his cousin Hümaşah Sultan,
       granddaughter of Suleiman the Magnificent and Hurrem Sultan
       through their deceased son Şehzade Mehmed,[3] older full
       brother of Murad's father Selim. Given the name Safiye, she
       became a concubine of Murad (then the eldest son of Sultan Selim
       II). On 26 May 1566, she gave birth to Murad's son, the future
       Mehmed III, the same year Suleiman the Magnificent died.[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handan_Sultan
       [quote]Handan Sultan (Ottoman Turkish:
       خندان
       سلطان meaning "smiling" in
       Persian; died 9 November 1605) was the consort of Sultan Mehmed
       III, and Valide Sultan to their son Sultan Ahmed I.
       ...
       Of Bosnian origin, Handan Sultan was a servant in the household
       of Cerrah Mehmed Pasha[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6sem_Sultan
       [quote]Kösem Sultan (Ottoman Turkish:
       كوسم
       سلطان;[a] c. 1589[1] – 2 September
       1651[2]), also known as Mahpeyker Sultan[3][4] (Persian:
       ماه پيكر;
       lit. 'Visage of the Moon'), was the chief consort and
       legal wife of the Ottoman Sultan Ahmed I, valide sultan as the
       mother of sultans Murad IV and Ibrahim, and büyük ("elder")
       valide sultan as the grandmother of Sultan Mehmed IV. She became
       one of the most powerful and influential women in Ottoman
       history, as well as a central figure during the period known as
       the Sultanate of Women.[5]
       ...
       Kösem is generally said to be of Greek origin,[6][7] the
       daughter of a priest on the island of Tinos whose maiden name
       was Anastasia,[8][9][6] but these views do not seem reliable.[1]
       In 1604, at the age of 14 or 15, she was kidnapped by Ottoman
       raiders and bought as a slave in Bosnia by the beylerbey
       (governor-general) of the Bosnia Eyalet.[10][/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turhan_Sultan
       [quote]Turhan Hatice Sultan (Ottoman Turkish:
       تورخان
       سلطان, " of mercy "; c. 1627 – 4
       August 1683) was the first Haseki Sultan of the Ottoman Sultan
       Ibrahim (reign 1640–48) and Valide Sultan as the mother of
       Mehmed IV (reign 1648–87). Turhan was prominent for the regency
       of her young son and her building patronage. She and her
       mother-in-law, Kösem Sultan, are the only two women in Ottoman
       history to be regarded as official regents and had supreme
       control over the Ottoman Empire. As a result, Turhan became one
       of the prominent figures during the era known as Sultanate of
       Women.
       ...
       Of Rus' origin,[1][2] Turhan Hatice Sultan, was born in 1627 in
       Ruthenia, Ukraine. She was tall, delicate and with blue eyes.[3]
       She was captured in one of the raids of the Tatars and sold into
       slavery.[4] She was sent to the Imperial Harem at the
       Topkapı Palace from the Khan of Crimea.[5] She was
       presented to the palace, as a gift of Kör Süleyman Pasha to
       Kösem Sultan.[6] She was trained by Atike Sultan, daughter of
       Sultan Ahmed I, and groomed by Kösem, who presented her to her
       son, Ibrahim.[7] She had one brother, Yunus Agha (died 1689),
       living in Istanbul.[8] According to Sakaoğlu, she was tall,
       had blue eyes and was white skinned.[9]
       Turhan gave birth for sure to two children, Şehzade Mehmed
       (future Sultan Mehmed IV)[10] born on 2 January 1642,[11] and
       Atike Sultan. Mehmed's birth caused great rejoicing both within
       and without the palace.[12] [/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BClnu%C5%9F_Sultan
       [quote]Emetullah Rabia Gülnuş Sultan (Ottoman Turkish:
       جولنوس امت
       الله رابعه
       سلطان; "Servant of Allah",
       "spring" and "Essence of rose", 1642[1] – 6 November 1715,
       Edirne) was the Haseki Sultan of Ottoman Sultan Mehmed IV and
       Valide Sultan to their sons Mustafa II and Ahmed III. At the
       beginning of the 18th century, she became the most powerful and
       influential women in the Ottoman Empire. [2][3]
       ...
       Gülnuş Sultan was born in 1642[4] in the town of Rethymno,
       Crete, when the island was under Venetian rule; she was
       originally named Eumenia Voria
       (Ευμενία
       Βόρια) and she was an ethnic Greek, the
       daughter of a Greek Orthodox priest.[5][a] She was captured by
       the Ottomans during the invasion of Crete in 1645.[5]
       [/quote]
       etc.. The Sultanate of Women should be more accurately called
       the Sultanate of "White" Women!
  HTML https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png
       This is the exact same dynamic as described here:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/msg2343/#msg2343
       [quote]They start dynasties that persist to this day … but their
       grandsons and great-grandsons are notably whiter than they were,
       since the men of the family have been exploiting their social
       ascendancy to marry white women.[/quote]
       This is why all Eurocentrists need to be prohibited from
       reproducing:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg8954/#msg8954
       #Post#: 15992--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Difference between Islami and Europe on Slave Treatment
       By: antihellenistic Date: October 6, 2022, 7:03 pm
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       [quote]Mara Branković or Mara Despina Hatun
       ...
       Hurrem Sultan
       ...
       Mehmed III
       ...
       Sultan Ahmed I
       ...
       Kösem Sultan
       ...
       Turhan Hatice Sultan
       ...
       Emetullah Rabia Gülnuş Sultan
       ...
       Mustafa II and Ahmed III.[/quote]
       So, the problem are not the Islamic teachings but the people's
       "Eurocentrist" atittude as usual
       #Post#: 25127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Crusades: An Arab Perspective Ep1
       By: antihellenistic Date: February 19, 2024, 8:07 pm
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       Slavery in Ottoman Empire
       [quote]Best
       u/Zooasaurus avatar
       Zooasaurus
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       I'll try to answer your question, sorry if it doesn't satisfy
       you. This answer is mostly about the view and treatment of freed
       Africans in the mid to late 19th century
       Of course, just like with European nations, the Ottomans
       enslaved Africans, particularly from East Africa, Nubia, Sudan,
       and Ethiopia. Because of that, most of Africans living in the
       Ottoman Empire were either slaves or freed slaves. I'm mostly
       focusing on free Africans and how they lived in the Ottoman
       Empire, especially from the tanzimat onwards.
       Social Treatment Towards Africans
       Ottoman society's view of Africans is characterized by the
       color-based homogeneity that's applied to Africans, the Us vs
       Them dichotomy, and the proceeding racial discrimination made
       against them.
       First of all, because of Ottoman society's difficulty in
       understanding the geographical origins and African languages,
       Africans of various origins were treated as a single,
       homogeneous ethnic-racial identity known as "Blacks" (Zenciler)
       since the "blackness" of their skin were the easiest way to
       categorize them in a "white" society. Second, in the late
       Ottoman Empire, local elites and intellectuals associated
       Africans and African culture with marginal social groups. In
       their eyes, the marginalized and their culture did not measure
       up to Ottoman standards. Those people and cultures were uncouth,
       underdeveloped, primitive, and incomprehensibly bizarre yet
       exotic which created a dichotomy between the "civilized
       Ottomans" and "uncivilized Blacks". Lastly, came several
       stereotyped features associated with the African populace. Most
       had negative connotations, portraying Africans as ignorant,
       stupid, lecherous, and adulterous though obviously not all
       subscribed to these ideas. Nevertheless, discrimination against
       Africans aren't as intense as in, say, the United States since
       it was not supported by any state policies. Because of that,
       Ottoman subjects mingling or having good relations with Africans
       in individual or wider social level isn't
       Because of their often marginalized status, Africans lived in
       their own neighbourhoods and communities. For example, there are
       Izmir's Tamaşalık and İkiçeşme, Veroia's
       Arap Mahallesi, and Agha Balta neighbourhood in Candia.
       Additionally, in many Ottoman cities there are various African
       communities centered around lodges led by a kolbası, freed
       African women who served as heads of these lodges and lead
       religious processions. The main purpose of these lodges are "for
       mutual defence and protection, not only against the tyranny of
       masters and mistresses, but against sickness and other accidents
       of life". These lodges, with the government's support protected
       and housed Africans and preserved some form of their way of
       life. For example, these lodges also functioned as a religious
       cult whose chief deity was worshipped under such names as
       Yavroube or Yavru Bey. These lodges would perform African
       festivals (or a creolized form of it) annually, with even
       participating Muslim populaces, much to the elite's dismay, as
       can be seen in these ridicules from the newspaper Hizmet in
       1894:
       No matter how much the Calf Festival, special only to our city,
       has been criticized, this custom continues yet again. Despite
       everything that has been written about this odd and ridiculous
       tradition, there remains no other way but to smash the people’s
       ignorance. If we ask them, we shall get this answer: if the
       calf’s blood is not spilt, then a headless African will come,
       will cause us trouble, and will bring disease to our city ... We
       cannot do anything but be sorry for this custom of Africans,
       which is the result of pure ignorance ... We cannot avoid being
       amazed and pained at the fact that four or five thousand of our
       sober-minded white people take part in that Calf Festival, which
       consists of four or five hundred persons getting together, and
       with four or five Ottoman liras buying a calf, slaughtering and
       cooking it
       The Ottoman Government and Freed Slaves
       In 1857, partly because of British pressure the Porte formally
       abolished African slave trade (but not slavery or slave trade in
       general). The edicts (ferman) were dispatched to provincial
       governors-general, instructing them to prohibit the trade in
       Africans and that they are responsible to manumit enslaved
       Africans immediately and give them the necessary lodgings and
       facilities so that they could settle down in the province. This
       started the trend of the Porte acting as the "Patron State" to
       Africans. The Porte recognized its responsibility for the
       well-being of the men and women freed as a result of the
       prohibition. Although practice did not always match intentions
       (as there are many other reasons on why the Porte goes to much
       lengths on doing this), they realized that unless they actively
       protected such persons and placed them in gainful jobs, such
       persons would soon be exploited, abused, and, often, reenslaved.
       Because of that, the Porte tried various ways to ensure the
       freed Africans were properly established and integrated in
       Ottoman society.
       Reattaching freed Africans to private elite households and
       government agencies as free manpower were the most common
       attempt at doing this. Freed African men were offered place in
       the various vocational schools and different types of public
       works, such as mining and salt transportation, all involving
       physically demanding jobs but with good pay and freedom of
       movement. Others were just simply drafted into the army, which
       seems to offer attachment to freed African men more than other
       government agencies, providing sustenance, shelter, professional
       training, and a new identity. Many of these men were placed in
       the various military bands, probably because they were deemed to
       have musical talents or because a band of black-skinned people
       performing in state ceremonials had visual impact. Other common
       placements for freed Africans were in artisan battalions and
       naval units, where the men were taught technical skills and then
       deployed to service or combat units, such as artillery,
       transport, and encampment. Skills acquired in the military could
       also be used in civilian life after termination of service,
       potentially putting the men in higher income brackets than were
       the ones employed in unskilled service jobs. Freed African women
       were commonly placed in domestic service. Unlike being a
       domestic slave, they have a legal option to change employers,
       and they were able to earn income (though meagre) and gradually
       save up for a future family. Some of the women also received
       professional training that enabled them to work in other jobs
       Later on, In Istanbul, the Ministry of Police, established a
       hostel (misafirhane) for liberated persons. This was a sort of
       lodgehouse intended to temporarily host freed slaves until
       proper employment could be found for them. Though there are
       problems at first, the establishment of hostels to care for
       freed Africans became an official Empire-wide policy with a
       system devised to feed, clothe, and shelter freed Africans paid
       for by the central government, partly by the local authorities,
       and partly through financing by local employers who would
       undertake payment for the free laborers they were gaining
       through the government emancipation program. In 1884, Sultan
       Abdülhamid II further ordered that freed Africans be brought
       from Benghazi to Istanbul and Izmir to avoid a lengthy wait in
       the province, and then the women were to be placed in domestic
       service, while the men in military bands and artisan battalions.
       Additionally, the Sultan launched a settlement program for
       liberated Africans. The idea was to marry freed men and women to
       each other, create new village communities for them, and settle
       them as agricultural workers on state land not unlike the
       recently adopted Circassian settlement program. However, i don't
       know if this program were ever adopted throughout the Empire, as
       it seemed that the program were only ever ran in Aydın.
       Of course, things wasn't perfect as there are many problems with
       this system. Monetary problems were the most frequent, as
       sometimes there are not enough money to care for the interned
       slaves. This led to the sometimes horrible conditions in hostels
       without being fed or cared. The biggest problem however, is that
       in such a vast empire, with so many diverse and conflicting
       interests, not all orders from Istanbul were obeyed. Sometimes
       governor-generals would just simply return the enslaved to their
       masters or resold them in a different city. All in all, there
       was a system in place, but it was far from perfect.[/quote]
       Source :
       reusffhd. (2020, June 11). Treatment of Blacks in The Ottoman
       Empire.
  HTML https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/h156m1/treatment_of_blacks_in_the_ottoman_empire/
       [quote]Slaves could be acquired in war, by purchase, gift or
       inheritance. African slaves were considered quite valuable and
       typically came from Central Africa. They would be sold in the
       slave markets at Fezzan in Libya and Upper Egypt or might have
       been brought to Mecca during the time of the pilgrimage and sold
       there. From the 16th century, Egypt and most of the Arabian
       Peninsula were under Ottoman control and in the 17th century,
       the Ottomans took over the Fezzan region. That gave them greater
       access to African slaves. Perhaps as much of Istanbul’s
       population as 20 percent consisted of slaves, although we have
       no idea of what percentage would have been Africans. Most
       moderately well-to-do families would be able to afford a slave
       to handle basic chores, but the rarity of blacks in Istanbul
       would have ensured that only the wealthy could own one.
       Under Islamic law, the slave had to be provided with shelter,
       clothing, food and medical care, while freeing a slave was
       considered an act of piety. Slaves could even take their owner
       to court. There are stories of slaves being freed and given the
       wherewithal to start a new life, although he or she might prefer
       to stay with their former master or mistress than tackle the
       difficulties of living alone in a foreign city. Where Africans
       were concerned, returning to Central Africa was not a solution;
       he or she would have been sold when they were very young – 10-12
       years of age and it was unlikely they would ever make it back to
       their original homes. He or she was most often considered a part
       of the family. They could buy their own homes and even marry,
       provided they had the permission of their owners.  If the owner
       were to take a female black slave as his concubine, he might
       free her and make her his wife. If she bore him a son, even
       while a slave, the boy would be considered free. The children of
       a slave father and mother were considered slaves even though the
       owner had given permission for the marriage.
       If any owner treated a slave cruelly and it came to the
       attention of the authorities, that person might be punished. For
       example, if he withheld food, the court might have the owner’s
       property sold to provide the necessary nourishment. Or he might
       be sent into exile, in cases that were not very serious, being
       exiled from Istanbul was sufficient, since Istanbul was the
       center of Ottoman civilization.[/quote]
       Source :
       hurriyetdailynews.com. (2014, August). African slaves in the
       Ottoman Empire. Hürriyet Daily News; hurriyetdailynews.com.
  HTML https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/african-slaves-in-the-ottoman-empire-69858
       Contrary to "Modern Turkey" led by Mustafa Kemal Attaturk
       [quote]When General İlker Basbuğ, the highest ranking
       officer in Turkey until just a few years ago, defined some
       citizens as, “people who don’t really have Turkish blood in
       their veins,” he was revealing just the tip of an ugly iceberg.
       General Basbug here was merely repeating what was established as
       one of the foundation stones of the new “secular” Turkish
       identity under the founding father of modern Turkey, Mustafa
       Kemal Ataturk.
       Following the departure of the last Greek soldiers from
       Anatolian soil on 15 September 1922, the ceasefire of 11 October
       and the evacuation of eastern Thrace by the Greek army, the
       Lausanne peace conference opened. While the conference
       maintained suspense over the conclusion of peace, the year 1923
       marked the establishment of the basic institutions, as well as
       the policies, of the new Turkey. During this time, Mustafa Kemal
       developed his critique of the economic backwardness of his
       country and its Islamic culture, and introduced his main goal as
       how to achieve western standards of political and economic
       management, in other words ‘to make Turkey European’.
       Ataturk genuinely believed that the new Turkey should cut all
       its “Eastern/ Muslim” origins adrift and define itself as part
       of the “White/ Western” civilization. He tried to prove this in
       many different ways for the rest of his life. The Turkish
       delegation at Lausanne sought to convince the British, French
       and Italian delegates that the Ankara government had nothing in
       common with the “old Eastern/ Muslim Turk” represented by the
       Ottoman Empire.
       Hence, the new Turkey, from the start, identified itself
       directly and immediately with the history, culture and
       perceptions of the western world, claiming a total break with
       the Ottoman and Islamic past. By 1925 an independent Turkish
       Republic was firmly established with its new western
       institutions and militantly secular modernising ideology. A
       completely new social order was created under the rule of its
       small secular military elite. The events of these early years
       mark an important watershed in the development of Turkish state
       ideology, which is still dominating most aspects of the Turkish
       state and society.
       In 1932, a Turkish Historical Congress was convened in Ankara
       with the task of proving the theory that the Turks were indeed a
       white Aryan race originating in Central Asia where ‘Western
       civilization’ was assumed to have originated. The second Turkish
       Historical Congress met in Istanbul in 1937, where further
       desperate steps were taken to prove that the Turks were indeed a
       central part of the White European race. Eugene Pittard**, the
       Swiss anthropologist whose work was perceived and practiced as a
       racist account of humanity, not only participated but was
       announced as the honorary president.
       When Mustafa Kemal spoke of the future of his country in terms
       of a western perception he was indeed registering the identity
       of the Turkish elite, of which he was a distinguished member.
       The western-oriented elite would, and indeed did, use this
       position to feel superior to their own people because they were
       able to articulate the “Eastern”, the “Oriental”, the “Muslim
       Turk”, to the “West”. Yet, in their relationships with the
       western world, they could always remain as “enlightened
       natives”. In other words, “modern” Turkey was accepted as a
       useful outsider and an incorporated weak partner for the west,
       and has stayed as such until now. However, the self-perceptions
       of individual members of the country have remained closely
       rooted in the identity-formation processes of those early days,
       the days of the 1920s and 30s.
       Every Turkish child still grows up memorizing Atatürk’s 1927
       address to the youth, which says “the noble Turkish blood in
       your veins.” All primary and secondary schools still teach a
       “Turkish” history that starts with the Huns of Central Asia,
       giving an ethnic, not civic, sense of a nation. And nationalist
       demagogues speak of “pure Turks” in the country, clearly
       excluding the Kurds and all non-Muslims, and, recently sharply
       against (Muslim) Arabs, as the number of Syrian refugees
       increases fast in the country.[/quote]
       Source :
       Gökay, Bülent. (2014). Race and racism in modern Turkey.
       Accessed on 20 February 2023, from
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       Re: American Slave Insurrections
       By: antihellenistic Date: March 20, 2024, 5:29 pm
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       [quote]Since the beginning of time, the condition we broadly
       refer to as slavery has existed in so many different iterations
       that it is almost unfair to sweep all the different variations
       of human bondage under the umbrella of one language’s inadequate
       definition. Is a prisoner of war the same as a domestic servant?
       Does an unpaid worker serving a period of indentured servitude
       fall synonymous with a woman forced to enter an arranged
       marriage? Is criminal incarceration indistinguishable from
       mandatory military conscription? These are just a few historical
       examples of people who have been broadly defined as “slaves.”
       But unlike in Europe or elsewhere in the world, color-based
       slavery was regulated as a part of America’s founding document.
       Slaves from antiquity were still seen as human, and their
       enslavement was not solely based on skin color. Slavery existed
       in Africa before white people showed up, but human beings were
       not commodified or chattel. In pre-colonial Africa, enslaved
       people had legal rights, their status was not passed down to
       their children, and they did not serve as a major labor force.
       In fact, most of the previous iterations of human bondage around
       the world offered a path to freedom. To be fair, it is much
       easier to refer to America’s unique institution as “slavery”
       than it is to call it the “perpetual, race-based,
       constitutional, human trafficking enterprise that legally
       reduces human beings to chattel through the means of violence or
       the threat thereof.” That’s quite a mouthful. But at its heart,
       that’s what it is.[/quote]
       Source :
       Black AF History: The Un-Whitewashed Story of America by Michael
       Harriot page 42 and 43
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