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Re: Leftists against progressivism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 26, 2022, 11:11 pm
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Wakandism is the epitome of False Leftism:
HTML https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/25/wakanda-forever-importance-black-girl-genius/
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> what I was most struck by was how [Black Panther: Wakanda
Forever] portrays Black girls and women and technology. It leads
us to imagine a world in which Black girls are technological
geniuses and the weapons that White men use are, in Gen. Okoye’s
words, “so primitive.”
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The part in bold is what False Leftism is all about.
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> “Black Panther” is a bit of a technological-revenge fantasy.
In the movie, the genius inventor is an American Black college
student named Riri Williams, a.k.a. “Ironheart” (Dominique
Thorne), who is studying at MIT. She develops a crucial piece of
technology that everyone wants to get their hands on.
> ...
> Shuri, Riri and their respective technological geniuses are
the true heroines of “Black Panther.”
> ...
> So, what if we lived in a world where Black girls were
encouraged to be inventors in science and technology? Or where
Black women could protect and benefit from their own creativity
and genius?
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If we lived in such a world, we would have to eliminate even
more bloodlines in order to kill Western civilization.
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Re: Leftists against progressivism
DIR By: rp
Date: December 7, 2022, 6:54 pm
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U.S. Tech Workers, a project of the anti-immigrant group
Progressives for Immigration Reform (PFIR), has ties to an
anti-immigrant hate network and unprecedented access to the
Trump administration.
HTML https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/01/31/workers-organization-shares-staff-cash-anti-immigrant-groups
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> The group’s primary function is lobbying. Founded in 2018,
they advocate for the curtailment of the H-1B visa program on
the basis that employers systematically abuse the program,
thereby harming both American and international tech workers.
>
> Other labor-focused organizations, such as the International
Labor Recruitment Working Group, have also highlighted the
systemic abuses committed by employers who utilize this specific
visa program. However, a closer look at the staff and funds of
U.S. Tech Workers illuminates its ties to the anti-immigrant
movement.
>
>
> SPLC's Hatewatch Staff collected the information presented in
the graph from the following organizations' websites: The
Foundation Center, Progressives for Immigration Reform, U.S.
Tech Workers, Doctors without Jobs, Center for Progressive Urban
Politics, VDARE and the Federation for American Immigration
Reform.
> One of U.S. Tech Workers’ writers is Joe Guzzardi, a man with
ties to the anti-immigrant network founded by white nationalist
and eugenicist John Tanton. Guzzardi serves on the national
board of advisors for the Federation for American Immigration
Reform (FAIR), an anti-immigrant hate group Tanton started in
1979. In addition to serving as a FAIR national board advisor,
Guzzardi is a writer and analyst at PFIR. PFIR began in 2009,
with founders contending that blocking immigrants from coming
into the U.S. protects the environment because immigrants are to
blame for urban sprawl, traffic congestion and other issues.
>
> Prior to his current roles, Guzzardi directed media relations
at Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS), a
state-level anti-immigrant hate group founded by white
nationalist Garrett Hardin, for nearly a decade. From 2001 to
2010, Guzzardi authored approximately 738 blogs for VDARE, a
white nationalist hate website founded by Peter Brimelow.
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Re: Leftists against progressivism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 10, 2022, 9:19 pm
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Continuing from:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/elon-musk/msg16916/#msg16916
progressive commenters defend Musk using typical progressive
reasoning:
HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-musk-neuralink-faces-federal-221949094.html
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> did anyone think that a brain implant would be approved
without animal testing?
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> As much as it may feel heartless I would prefer there being a
phase of animal testing on most scientific things that will
alter a person from medicine to technology before moving to
humans, whats the alternative?
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> So you'd rather go right to human testing? Or skip human
testing and just put out a product (which is just large scale
human testing)? Get a clue, live in the real world for a while
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> Should we just implant electrical devices in paralyzed humans
and 'see what it does'?
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> Animals have always been used for testing, there is often no
other way without using humans.
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In short, don't even consider the anti-progressive possibility
of (*gasp!*) not developing the new machine in the first place.
The only choices are: 1) progress without animal testing; or 2)
progress with animal testing.
The following potentially leftist commenter is deeply confused:
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> 2022 and we’re still testing on animals and eating food from
factory farms. Sure seems like society is going in the wrong
direction
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"Still"?! It was in pre-modern times when we weren't testing on
animals or eating from factory ranches (both of which came from
post-Renaissance Western civilization). Yes, society is going in
the wrong direction, but the correct direction is backwards!
At least some Musk fans realize that it is leftists (as opposed
to progressives) who dislike Musk:
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> Well, folks, here they come! Now we're seeing the full court
press on Musk from the left.
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so hopefully more people will learn the difference between
leftism and progressivism.
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Re: Leftists against progressivism
DIR By: SirGalahad
Date: December 11, 2022, 1:05 am
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@90sRetroFan This breed of false leftist is actually even worse
than your comment implies. These kinds of people who circlejerk
about how how great scientific progress is could very easily
start promoting yet another option that we haven't mentioned
yet: testing on confirmed human criminals. But they don't. Why?
Because they're so disgustingly anthropocentric that testing on
any human, even the worst of them, is considered "barbaric" and
an atrocity, yet it's totally fine to test on a non-human who
has done no wrong besides being born as the wrong species. And
trying to get these people to see their humanist hypocrisy will
get you nowhere. 9 times out of 10, they'll just start harping
on endlessly about "human rights", failing to see the bigger
picture
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Re: Western Civilization is UGLY
DIR By: rp
Date: February 4, 2023, 9:33 pm
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HTML https://twitter.com/BlackSh20965850/status/1609284671476473860?s=20&t=AaypLzGpX8bR_MkhiXOHyQ
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I completely agree that this is what False Leftists think. Only
by acknowledging the bottom picture as superior will we be able
to decolonize.
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Re: Superiority cannot be taught
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: February 18, 2023, 1:51 am
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Westerners don't know how to talk, make empathic and ethical
communication, because they consider that emotions and feelings
are "not rational". If we consider emotions and feelings
irrational, how can we know people's suffering...
Debate on INFJ Discord Group, me as Diktatur Abdul, the
opponents were account named Ereshkiga1, Sasuke Uchiha, and
kapri
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#Post#: 17984--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Superiority cannot be taught
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: February 18, 2023, 1:58 am
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"Animal" is not an acceptable True Left insult, even for use as
an example. It might cause the listener to think you are an
anthropocentrist. Please choose a more suitable example insult
next time.
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Re: Re: Superiority cannot be taught
DIR By: Imagination
Date: February 18, 2023, 2:10 am
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> If we consider emotions and feelings irrational, how can we
know people's suffering...
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What about imagination?
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> What Is Cognitive Empathy?
>
> Cognitive empathy means that you can understand another
person's perspective. It is also referred to as
perspective-taking or putting yourself in someone else's shoes.2
In essence, you can imagine what it might be like to be that
person in their situation, giving you a better understanding of
their experience.
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HTML https://www.verywellmind.com/cognitive-and-emotional-empathy-4582389
Do I really need to feel the emotional suffering (emotional
empathy) of someone who has been wrongfully brutalized to be
able to imagine how terrible they must feel, or can I use my
imagination and put myself in their position?
Question: Personally, I have been angry for well over 20 years
now, would I be able to attain new customers for my business if
I were constantly expressing my anger, especially to strangers,
and in public every opportunity I get? Sure, I could go homeless
and live off a freegan diet, but how would I have ended up here
had I done so? Do you really need someone to physically show you
their suffering before you can empathize with them?
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Re: Re: Superiority cannot be taught
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: February 18, 2023, 2:27 am
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> What about imagination?
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Westerner's glorification of empiricism prevent them to agree
with you, they are retard
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> Do I really need to feel the emotional suffering (emotional
empathy) of someone who has been wrongfully brutalized to be
able to imagine how terrible they must feel, or can I use my
imagination and put myself in their position?
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Imagination can make us know sufferings without experience it
first which need sufferings happen, therefore Plato and
Mohammed's rationalism which you propose is superior rather than
Aristotle's empirical theory. But westerners are retard.
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Re: Leftists against progressivism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 2, 2023, 9:04 pm
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Rightists beome aware of True Leftism:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/left-now-demonic-aim-ordinary-120000170.html
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> The Left now has a demonic new aim: to make ordinary people
poorer
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There is nothing demonic about it, quite the contrary:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty#Spirituality
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> Among some individuals, poverty is considered a necessary or
desirable condition, which must be embraced to reach certain
spiritual, moral, or intellectual states. Poverty is often
understood to be an essential element of renunciation in
religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism (only for monks, not for
lay persons) and Jainism, whilst in Christianity, in particular
Roman Catholicism, it is one of the evangelical counsels. The
main aim of giving up things of the materialistic world is to
withdraw oneself from sensual pleasures (as they are considered
illusionary and only temporary in some religions—such as the
concept of dunya in Islam).
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Back to main article:
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> We are living through the most startling political realignment
in more than 100 years. Never since the advent of modern
socialism in the early 20th century has the Left openly
advocated making ordinary people poorer, thereby leaving those
on the Right to defend the spread of mass prosperity.
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Yes:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg4254/#msg4254
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> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_poverty_and_wealth
>
> [quote] Perrotta points out that material wealth is highly
valued in the Old Testament; the Hebrews seek it and God
promises to bless them with it if they will follow his
commandments.[12] Joseph Francis Kelly writes that biblical
writers leave no doubt that God enabled men such as Abraham,
Isaac, Jacob and Solomon to achieve wealth and that this wealth
was a sign of divine favor.
> ...
> Jesus explicitly condemns excessive love of wealth as an
intrinsic evil in various passages in the Gospels, especially in
Luke (Luke 16:10–15 being an especially clear example). He also
consistently warns of the danger of riches as a hindrance to
favor with God
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[/quote]
Back to main article:
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> Where organised protest movements in the past have been
inspired by the idea that the masses were too poor, now they
promote the idea that most ordinary people are too rich.
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False Leftism is fading and True Leftism is dawning.
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> everyone accepted the underlying assumption that it was
desirable for as many people as possible to become progressively
better off.
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Not us! We were never progressives!
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> Until very recently, there was no respectable voice calling
for an end to the spread of prosperity to the developing world,
as well as in the advanced nations.
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Regressivism has very recently entered the discourse!
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> Now it is not just the juvenile Left making this extraordinary
demand. Politicians of the centre-Right who had adopted pretty
much wholesale the doctrine of social justice – which is to say,
everybody having an equal chance for economic self-determination
and a materially comfortable life – find themselves having to
justify penalising ordinary people for heating their homes or
for travelling beyond their own neighbourhoods.
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Prior to the colonial era, most people did not travel beyond
their neighbourhoods:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-ahimsa/msg15224/#msg15224
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/anti-gentrification/msg15225/#msg15225
and certainly did not use central heating:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/decolonized-housing-(america-edition)/msg10221/#msg10221
The pre-colonial lifestyle is what we want to get the world back
to.
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> Of course, the Industrial Revolution will not go down without
a fight.
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See you on the battlefield.
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> the eco-Left’s next project. That is to abolish animal
farming, which has been a civilising feature of human society
for much longer. The devastation that such a ban would create on
rural life would rank with the Enclosures Act as a social and
economic cataclysm.
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Yes, after de-Westernization comes de-Turanization:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/farming-vs-ranching/
Continuing:
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> In the 18th century many of those earlier displaced farming
people – the ones who did not simply perish – could be absorbed
into the emerging new industries, thereby creating the
proletariat on which Marx founded his revolutionary ideology.
What would happen to the new legions of former dairy, sheep and
pig farmers? Would they all be expected to find new jobs in the
green energy business?
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They should be killed the same way they have endorsed their
countless victims being killed.
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> Modern social democratic principles would have to be applied,
wouldn’t they?
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Absolutely not! We are regressives, remember? Autocracy all the
way!
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