URI:
   DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       True Left
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       *****************************************************
   DIR Return to: Mythical World
       *****************************************************
       #Post#: 16947--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gentilism
       By: rp Date: December 8, 2022, 7:27 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
  HTML https://mobile.twitter.com/WorldWarWang/status/1600835355724259328
       [Quote]
       Andrew Anglin
       @WorldWarWang
       I like that Hemingway overcame the sexual abuse from women he
       suffered as a child by killing large animals.
       This is very healthy.
       Confused young people in America should be sent on big game
       safaris in Africa.
       [Img]
  HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjdPQxYVQAI_qcb?format=jpg&name=medium[/img]
       #Post#: 17606--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gentilism
       By: rp Date: January 22, 2023, 7:30 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Zea_mays link=topic=151.msg6245#msg6245
       date=1620543352]
       [quote]"Do you believe most Westerners today possess more Giant
       or Turanian blood?"[/quote]
       It seems genetic studies suggest Westerners have much more
       Turanian blood than Giant blood. However, a word of caution is
       that these studies are measuring the overall amount of
       DNA--which is mostly just junk DNA.
       In terms of phenotype, physical anthropologists in the pre-DNA
       days certainly saw a strong continuity between ancient
       Paleolithic skull morphology and present-day Westerners. So,
       perhaps there is more Turanian (and Neolithic) junk DNA in
       Europe, but it would be difficult to examine only the genes
       encoding for personality traits and other characteristics to
       make a determination as to whether Turanian or Giant traits have
       more prevalence.
       [img width=991 height=1280]
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/PAWUfnS.png[/img]
  HTML https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14317
       Another warning is that the proportion of blood probably varies
       greatly between individuals--perhaps some individuals today have
       almost completely Paleolithic ancestry, but if the graphs are
       averaged out over an entire population, this might get drowned
       out.
       (I would give an additional warning that just because the
       Sardinians are the modern group with the most Neolithic ancestry
       on the chart, this doesn't necessary mean they are more noble
       than the other populations. Apparently, herding has been a major
       part of their economy there for many generations. So, even if
       they inherited most of their junk DNA from Neolithic farming
       ancestors 5,000+ years ago, doesn't mean they continued the same
       lifestyle and attitudes into the present.)
       [/quote]
       I believe it is Giant blood that Westerners are primarily a
       product of. No other part of the world came up with Western
       Civilization independently and spontaneously, despite other
       parts of the world having Turanian blood. It is the uniqueness
       of Giant blood memory and the ethnocentrism it produces that
       makes this possible. What do you think?
       #Post#: 17628--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gentilism
       By: guest90 Date: January 23, 2023, 9:35 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Western civilisation is primarily a product of Jewish (Turanian)
       influence. Everything from its aesthetics and technology to its
       values and colonialism are Turanian.
       Turanian architecture:
       [img width=1280
       height=853]
  HTML https://www.theflorentine.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/synagogue_florence_ph-marcobadiani-1.jpg[/img]
       Western architecture:
  HTML https://live.staticflickr.com/3904/14501009908_62b6a2a14c_b.jpg
       And for comparison with another Turanian civilisation, Vedic
       architecture:
       [img]
  HTML https://miro.medium.com/max/750/1*fZI7NOdBVr2gtElLtewuRA.webp[/img]
       The desire for complexity is more of a Turanian trait, not a
       Giant one. Hunter/giant types lived in pre-Columbus America, and
       their civilisations were nowhere near as complex as the ones
       that neighboured the steppe (India/China/Europe). As for
       ethnocentrism, Giants, like other hunter types, were typically
       more isolationist, unlike Turanians who have a drive to expand
       their slave pool and resources (colonialism).
       However, the boredom and restlessness that a lot of westerners
       seem to experience is likely a product of Giant/hunter-gatherer
       blood memory. That blend could have given them an edge over
       other gentile civilisations (combine Giant/hunter boredom with
       Turanian/herder expansionism and you have Western
       progressivism).
       #Post#: 18243--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gentilism
       By: rp Date: March 3, 2023, 3:11 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       "As for ethnocentrism, Giants, like other hunter types, were
       typically more isolationist, unlike Turanians who have a drive
       to expand their slave pool and resources (colonialism)."
       Yes. Turanians would need to expand the grazing area for their
       livestock as the population grew. In contrast, hunters can stay
       in the same area and hunt the prey until they are extinct,
       following which they will shift to a new area.
       #Post#: 18303--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Turanian diffusion
       By: Guest Date: March 8, 2023, 12:58 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Ever Spotted a Doppelgänger Food?
       [quote]Your favorite dish may have a mysterious twin.[/quote]
       [quote]During my first trip to Oaxaca, Mexico, I snapped a photo
       of a banana leaf-wrapped rectangle. I immediately sent the photo
       to my mom, writing, “Look! Mexican zongzi!”
       If you had told me that this mole-laced tamal oaxaqueño was a
       zongzi, one of my favorite Chinese snacks, I would have believed
       you. A dumpling of savory-sweet sticky rice wrapped and steamed
       in banana or bamboo leaves, zongzi bears a remarkable similarity
       to this type of tamal, despite its origins on the other side of
       the globe.
       These leafy lookalikes are far from the world’s only culinary
       doppelgängers. Give cooks similar resources (say, large leaves,
       starch, and a little meat) and similar pressures (“How do we
       turn a sticky, soft dough into an easy-to-eat meal?”) and they
       may come up with the same solution.
       This week, we’re sharing culinary look-alikes that may make you
       do a double-take before you dig in.[/quote]
       [quote]In California, which has large Mexican and Chinese
       populations, zongzi are often called “Chinese tamales.” But
       despite their resemblance, the two delicacies predate any
       recorded contact between China and the Americas...[/quote]
       [quote]Meanwhile, the Dresden Codex, a Mayan text from the 11th
       or 12th century, features corn-husk tamales stuffed with deer,
       iguana, turkey, and fish, though some scholars speculate that
       tamales have been around since 8000 BC. Bananas and their broad
       leaves did not enter the picture until the Spanish brought them
       to the Americas in the 1500s, but since then, they have been
       adopted as the wrapper of choice in much of Central America and
       Southern Mexico.
       Today, cooks fill zongzi’s sticky rice with meat, seafood, nuts,
       sweet bean paste, and fruit, and tamal-makers stuff banana
       leaves with a rich corn masa and everything from chocolate to
       herbs to chicken in mole sauce.
       The two civilizations that birthed these foods may have been
       unaware of one another, but it seems that they stumbled upon the
       same truth: broad leaves are unmatched for wrapping compact,
       aromatic, and delicious dumplings.[/quote]
       [quote]My friend recently traveled to Hawai’i and tried the
       state’s comfort food, the platter of rice topped with a
       hamburger patty, gravy, and a fried egg known as Loco Moco. As a
       native of Rochester, New York, he was thrilled: The dish was
       very similar to his hometown’s beloved Garbage Plate, a heaping
       pile of diner starches, such as home fries and macaroni salad,
       topped with a hamburger patty and covered in a spicy meat sauce.
       Diners can add macaroni salad to a Loco Moco, or an egg to a
       Garbage Plate, making these layered, saucy hamburger plates
       close to identical. “Did one inspire the other?” he wondered to
       me.
       If the fast-food legends are true, these gut-busters are two
       independent solutions to the same problem: young eaters with
       fast metabolisms and empty wallets. In 1949, Richard and Nancy
       Inouye, owners of Hilo’s Lincoln Grill Restaurant, supposedly
       came up with the Loco Moco at the behest of members of a local
       teen football club that needed something inexpensive to fill
       their bottomless stomachs.
       Similarly, Rochester’s Nick Tahou, who holds the trademark for
       “Garbage Plate,” invented his protein-and-carbohydrate monster
       after a group of college students asked him for a plate “with
       all the garbage” on it...
       [img width=1280
       height=448]
  HTML https://img.atlasobscura.com/iClVWDKDJadEMzp8dTpb_5nTi6OkRIMfcQIVnNekj8w/rs:fill:12000:12000/q:81/sm:1/scp:1/ar:1/aHR0cHM6Ly9hdGxh/cy1kZXYuczMuYW1h/em9uYXdzLmNvbS91/cGxvYWRzL2Fzc2V0/cy80ZDY3YzA1NS0y/ZjJkLTRiOWUtYWVj/Yi1hNGIyYmIzN2Ez/MGY4YzBlZTQ5MDAy/ZjFiYzJiYzhfbG9j/byBtb2NvIGdhcmJh/Z2UgcGxhdGUgMS5q/cGc.jpg[/img]
       Loco Mocos and Garbage Plates are beloved fast foods in Hawaii
       and Rochester, New York, respectively. Right, Steven Miller,
       cropped/Left, Eugene Peretz, cropped[/quote]
       Entire article:
  HTML https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/conchas-and-melonpan?utm_source=pocket-newtab
       #Post#: 18389--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gentilism
       By: rp Date: March 12, 2023, 3:36 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       I was reading about Gentile vs Turanian blood memory, and I came
       across this comment from Hashtali on Aryanism.net:
  HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/western-civilization-late-20th-century-pop-culture/comment-page-2/#comment-170711
       [quote]
       I am still sensing a Giant part, and for the democracy-related
       reason I mentioned in an earlier comment. More recently, though,
       I’ve been considering that there might be two independent (but
       not mutually exclusive) mainstream anti-monarchic philosophies:
       constitutionalism and democratism. The two might be the product
       of Turanian and Gentile blood respectively, and the mix of the
       two races within the Pelasgian would explain why
       constitutionalism and democratism are so thoroughly mixed in the
       West.
       Constitutionalists (in which I include traditionalists and all
       those who seek to limit a king’s power) argue that power
       corrupts, but their focus solely on the absolute power (usually
       of a king) shows that what they’re actually concerned about is a
       higher power challenging their own (or their favored
       slavemaster’s) within their sphere of influence (as you pointed
       out is true for anarchists, for example). But this doesn’t mean
       they are necessarily democrats, because absolute power in the
       hands of the majority/masses could still threaten their own
       power. I think this attitude is similar to what the TOO article
       was saying about “aristocratic egalitarianism”. Also, I’ve
       noticed that whenever I bring up my disdain for democracy and
       support for aristocracy to a relative who I increasingly believe
       is Turanian, he always misses the point and arrogantly says
       something about “the masses being herds needing to be led”. But
       this guy is also opposed to absolute monarchy. (I don’t think
       he’s ideologically consistent enough to say what he prefers
       instead, but his Catholicism combined with his comment about
       herds indicates what alternatives he favors intuitively.)
       Democrats, on the other hand, are fully for giving power to the
       majority/masses. Democratic socialists, communists, and some
       variants of the far-right are good examples of this collectivist
       tendency (though they usually define majority/masses
       differently). Their anti-monarchism might have to do in part
       with what I was saying earlier about anti-Aryan Giant blood
       memory. However, more broadly, I think a Gentile blood memory is
       attuned to a hunter-gatherer society whose economy does not
       permit, as they put it, social stratification. Power in
       hunter-gatherer societies is indeed usually not concentrated in
       individuals and more collectivized. (Note that Marxists believe
       hunter-gatherers were/are essentially primitive communists.
       Also, JJ, remember what we were talking about in private about
       Deep Green Resistance and other egalitarians who see
       hunter-gatherer societies as some pristine havens of
       egalitarianism? I think this is where it might come from.)
       Most people usually hold some combination of the two
       philosophies. I would guess the West’s ability to combine the
       two so thoroughly is a testament to Pelasgians being a mixed
       Turanian-Giant group.[/quote]
       I definitely agree with this. More broadly, we could describe
       the Turanian attitude as hubris, and the Gentile (more
       specifically Giant) attitude as plebian hubris.
       #Post#: 18809--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gentilism
       By: rp Date: April 10, 2023, 9:44 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       3D video games meets Giant blood memory:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqhs_mcWMx4
       It seems that this was inevitably the end goal of 3D games,
       looking back. Especially the first person perspective (which I
       always hated, even more than 3rd person perspective 3D games),
       which is heavily dependent on spatial intelligence, which would
       have been selected for in hunter-gather societies.
       #Post#: 18831--------------------------------------------------
       The Truth about Hunter-Gatherers
       By: 2ThaSun Date: April 12, 2023, 3:06 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       * At time of posting on this forum I have not listened to the
       entirety of this lecture yet, but at around 4 minutes in the
       host starts getting into the Rousseauians and Jared Diamond's
       argument against agriculture...
       The Truth about Hunter-Gatherers
       [quote]This is an archived video of UNL anthropologist Raymond
       Hames presenting his April 14 Nebraska Lecture.[/quote]
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa6fok_GQJU
       #Post#: 18905--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Truth about Hunter-Gatherers
       By: TruthAboutHunterGatherers Date: April 16, 2023, 5:35 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=2ThaSun link=topic=151.msg18831#msg18831
       date=1681329978]
       * At time of posting on this forum I have not listened to the
       entirety of this lecture yet, but at around 4 minutes in the
       host starts getting into the Rousseauians and Jared Diamond's
       argument against agriculture...
       The Truth about Hunter-Gatherers
       [quote]This is an archived video of UNL anthropologist Raymond
       Hames presenting his April 14 Nebraska Lecture.[/quote]
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa6fok_GQJU[/quote]
       So the biggest takeaway I've gotten so far from the above
       lecture 30 minutes in is that hunter-gatherers were "fiercely
       egalitarian", more war like than even modern human hybrids, and
       calling hunter-gatherers "ecological noble savages" is a bunch
       of BS!  :) I also enjoyed how the subject of colonialism even
       made it into this lecture.
       #Post#: 19027--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gentilism
       By: rp Date: April 26, 2023, 10:58 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
  HTML https://twitter.com/LakotaMan1/status/1651062072455888897
       [quote]Lakota Man
       @LakotaMan1
       This is why we never ever disclose the locations of our sacred
       white animals.
       [img]
  HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FunANGHaUAAskdC?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
       [/quote]
       *****************************************************
   DIR Previous Page
   DIR Next Page