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       Re: Gentilism
       By: rp Date: May 16, 2021, 2:13 am
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       Gentile "art":
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       Gentiles apparently found hunting so worthy of glorifying that
       they decided to make "art" depicting their endeavors.
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       Re: Gentilism
       By: Dazhbog Date: May 16, 2021, 5:34 am
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       [quote author=rp link=topic=151.msg6427#msg6427
       date=1621149185]Gentile "art"[/quote]
       To be fair, I have no problem with the art style as such. From a
       purely aesthetic point of view, I actually do like these
       paintings due to their simplicity and abundance of empty space.
       [quote author=rp link=topic=151.msg6427#msg6427
       date=1621149185]Gentiles apparently found hunting so worthy of
       glorifying that they decided to make "art" depicting their
       endeavors.[/quote]
       This is the actual issue. Instead of siding with the innocent,
       distressed prey, as we would...
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       ...they choose to side with the predators going after them like
       a gang of typical high school bullies.
       In other words, the ignobility of these cave paintings isn't a
       matter of their style nor their substance, but the artists'
       interpretation of the latter. Whereas we would frame them as
       depicting the brutality of hunting, Gentiles frame them as
       depicting its glory.
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       Re: Gentilism
       By: rp Date: May 16, 2021, 10:03 am
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       I see! We could use them to illustrate the inferiority of
       Gentiles!
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       Re: Gentilism
       By: Dazhbog Date: May 16, 2021, 1:48 pm
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       [quote author=rp link=topic=151.msg6436#msg6436
       date=1621177393]I see! We could use them to illustrate the
       inferiority of Gentiles![/quote]
       I actually like the thought that these paintings influenced at
       least some of our ancestors in their decision to reject their
       more primitive contemporaries' violent lifestyle. I strongly
       believe that empathy and artistic sensitivity are intrinsically
       linked. Graphic hunting depictions such as your examples or this
       painting...
       [spoiler]
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       ...would surely convince anyone with the slightest sense of
       compassion that hunting is evil, even if they had no conception
       of the prey's suffering before!
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       Re: Gentilism
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 16, 2021, 1:57 pm
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       "Gentiles frame them as depicting its glory."
       To support this point, we could also note that cave paintings
       depicting gathering are far rarer (in fact I myself have yet to
       come across one!) If hunting scenes were painted purely as a
       celebration of being able to obtain food, we would at least
       expect gathering scenes to also have been painted with similar
       frequency. That the latter were not suggests, as you say, that
       the emphasis was on glory, whereupon indeed gathering scenes
       would not have been painted as gathering is generally much less
       difficult/dangerous.
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       Re: Gentilism
       By: rp Date: May 27, 2021, 6:53 pm
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       What "Native Americans" (Paleo-Indian Gentiles) ate before
       "Europeans" arrived:
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       #Post#: 7129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
       By: rp Date: June 13, 2021, 12:21 pm
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       Lobster Diver survives after being swallowed by Humpback Whale:
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       Demiurge strikes again...
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       Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 14, 2021, 12:23 am
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       This shit has happened before!
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       Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
       By: rp Date: June 14, 2021, 12:47 am
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       Wow! History sure repeats itself, doesn't it?
       Cape Cod lobster diver’s Jonah moment
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       BTW, note his facial expression:
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       Re: Gentilism
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 16, 2021, 3:59 am
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       [quote]About 35,000 years ago, a bear died in a cave in Siberia.
       It was a small cave bear – also known as the Russian cave bear,
       even though the first specimen was found in Britain. The problem
       was that the small cave bear wasn’t alone in the cave.
       Apparently a human was there and speared the bear in the head,
       possibly while it was in a hibernation stupor, scientists
       suspect.
       ...
       Large cave bears could rear up to more than 3 meters (nearly 10
       feet) in height. Small ones were also probably best killed while
       asleep. But it bears adding that they seem to have been
       vegetarian, unlikely to have been hunting the humans for food
       for themselves.
       So what have we here? In a cave, a vegetarian small cave bear
       died 35,000 years ago in the sort of cave people also liked to
       occupy.[/quote]
       35000 years later:
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