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Re: Views towards America
By: SirGalahad Date: October 1, 2023, 3:11 pm
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She should’ve just focused on the lack of walkability and the
over-abundance of cars, because I actually agree with that. But
other than that, I don’t mind the general look of these kinds of
places. I liked passing by those kinds of towns when I was
younger. The only issue is that those places tend to be
overwhelmingly conservative, which leads to left leaning people
fleeing to the major cities, and then we’re left with the
stereotype of conservatives being rustic farmers, which is the
opposite of what we want
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Re: Views towards America
By: rp Date: October 1, 2023, 4:23 pm
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"and then we’re left with the stereotype of conservatives being
rustic [s]farmers[/s] ranchers, which is the opposite of what we
want"
There, fixed it for you. But you're right, every time I drive on
a countryside road I pass by cattle ranches.
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Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 7, 2023, 5:51 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/christopher-columbus-statue-rhode-island-200433899.html
Best comment:
[quote]Never knew Columbus was AMERICAN 🤔 I did know
that he didn't actually "discover" anything. Spain landing in
the New World has NOTHING to do with American history. That's
merely the bee s we've been fed. What's really comical is we
fought Spain multiple times here in America. Why honor someone
from an Empire we went to war against who's NOT American
🤔🤔[/quote]
Our view of America is spreading. So, what is Columbus? The
following enemy comment tells us:
[quote]Columbus was one of the greatest promoters of the
civilization created by the European race - the greatest
civilization in human history - around the terrestrial
globe.[/quote]
And that is precisely why Columbus cannot be American.
Other woke comments:
[quote]How did he "discover" it if people were already here?
It's like walking across china and saying "I discovered this
great wall". Well someone built it so they were there
first.[/quote]
I used to ask teachers about this as a young child. They could
never answer it. The actual answer is: "non-whites" are not
people.
[quote]Some object to celebration of someone who represents
colonialism, murder, slavery, oppression and genocide. Others
get upset about a beer company giving a can of beer to a weird
person[/quote]
The former group are Americans. The latter group are
anti-Americans.
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Re: Israel
By: rp Date: October 19, 2023, 7:05 pm
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HTML https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1715104555636031973
[quote]All ancient civilisations support Palestine
Yemen stands with Palestine.
Only a 247 years old USA stands firmly with Israel
[/quote]
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Re: Re: Israel
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 19, 2023, 7:12 pm
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At least the US hasn't banned pro-Palestine demonstrations. In
contrast:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/france-germany-palestinian-supporters-struggle-142154127.html
[quote]BERLIN/PARIS (Reuters) -As tens of thousands of people
took to the streets around the world on Oct. 13 in support of
the Palestinians, all such protests in Germany and France were
banned.
...
Hungary and Austria have also blocked pro-Palestine protests
since Oct.7[/quote]
Why no mention of this by the tweeter? I do not support
narratives that try to portray the US as worse than the Western
colonial powers. See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/demographic-blueshift/msg22901/#msg22901
whereas:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/re-war-2249/msg22897/#msg22897
[quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlabdJL8_Io[/quote]
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Re: Views towards America
By: rp Date: October 19, 2023, 7:24 pm
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So much for free speech allegedly being a "classical liberal
Western ideal" lol.
"US as worse than the Western colonial powers"
I don't think they were trying to portray the US as worse than
the colonial powers, but rather just as worse.
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Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 19, 2023, 7:30 pm
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By emphasizing:
[quote]Only a 247 years old USA[/quote]
it suggests that the US (with its short history) is worse than
the Western colonial powers (which have longer histories). I see
this a lot among leftists who in wider contexts want to portray
the Western colonial powers as redeemable but the US as
irredeemable. (They often also prefer Western aesthetics to
American aesthetics.) I will oppose this notion every time.
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Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 7, 2023, 3:17 pm
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Leftists learning American nationalism:
HTML https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/01/us/lawmakers-rosa-parks-federal-holiday-reaj/index.html
[quote]On December 1, 1955, Rosa Parks boarded a city bus after
work in Montgomery, Alabama, and sat down.
As the bus filled with passengers, the driver demanded the
42-year-old seamstress move further back into the segregated
Black section of the bus so a White man could have her seat.
Parks famously refused.
She was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct. But that
bold decision is widely credited with launching the Montgomery
Bus Boycott and ultimately the Civil Rights Movement in the
United States.
This week, members of the Congressional Black Caucus marked the
68th anniversary of Rosa Parks’ arrest by urging Congress to
support a bill that would declare December 1, “Rosa Parks Day,”
a federal holiday.
“This is not just about Black history. It’s about American
history,” said Alabama Rep. Terri Sewell at a news conference
Wednesday.[/quote]
Exactly. The government which made it illegal for Parks to keep
her seat was a Western occupier government. The future
government which would dedicate a federal holiday to Parks would
be an American government.
[quote] “I know that all of us, this whole nation, has benefited
from the courage and bravery of this one woman,” Sewell
said.[/quote]
In other words, anyone who did not benefit from the Civil Rights
Movement is not American.
[quote]The proposed holiday, Sewell added, would ensure Parks’
sacrifice is remembered. It would also establish the first
federal holiday honoring a woman, according to the lawmakers.
“By simply refusing to give up her seat, Rosa Parks stood up for
the values that this nation holds dear. With her quiet,
dignified courage, she took a stand against a city steeped in
segregation, and in doing so, she sparked the beginning of a
movement that changed the very fabric of our nation,” she
said.[/quote]
Anyone who does not hold dear such values is not an American. In
other words, those who implemented and/or supported the Jim Crow
era were not Americans but Western occupiers.
Enemy comment that best illustrates what the conflict is about:
HTML https://www.amren.com/news/2023/12/us-lawmakers-push-for-federal-holiday-honoring-rosa-parks-on-the-anniversary-of-her-arrest/
[quote]Rosa Parks sat immobile of a bus ride and she is
considered more of a hero than Neil Armstrong, the first man of
the Moon.[/quote]
Anyone who thinks Armstrong deserves more admiration than Parks
is not an American but a Westerner. This succinctly summarizes
the difference in attitude between Americans and Westerners.
(Homework: which is Homo Hubris?)
Other revealing enemy comments:
[quote]Here’s the real legacy of Rosa Parks: Public
transportation today is extremely unsafe and filthy.[/quote]
Actually:
[img]
HTML https://scontent.fhkg3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/1800425_600214500048790_567727591_n.png?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=4dc865&_nc_ohc=vcjcJqcKDgkAX8evDsE&_nc_ht=scontent.fhkg3-2.fna&oh=00_AfByoHsCfIPT99tgAts0LARNTEDmcvIzT_B2jxXJrdti0w&oe=6599C80A[/img]
HTML https://8billiontrees.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/carbon-emissions-transportation-footprint.png
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Re: Views towards America
By: rp Date: December 28, 2023, 7:26 am
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HTML https://scroll.in/global/970265/how-tipu-sultan-and-haidar-ali-inspired-americas-founding-fathers-in-their-quest-for-freedom
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Correct Way to see The American History
By: antihellenistic Date: March 13, 2024, 8:58 am
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[quote]In most history books, America is colonized by European
“settlers.” In chronicling this nation’s past, historians
recognize that the English, Dutch, Spanish, and French colonists
are human beings with different backstories, cultures, and
motivations. We know the political incentives, economic
concerns, and social mores that explain away the theft,
violence, and genocide they committed against the savage
silhouettes that we are too unbothered to name. The people and
cultures whose blood water the stolen landscapes are usually
dehumanized by simply remaining anonymous. The stolen Africans
are not Akan or Nyamwezi; they are just “slaves.” The various
indigenous nations who were extinguished are never Oceti Sakowin
or even Iroquois; they are just “Indians” or, at most, “Native
Americans.” Yet, somehow, the states and colonies that replace
them have borders, legislatures, and distinguishable features.
...
And while this book is not the complete history of Black people
in America, it acknowledges that too much has been stolen for
that to ever exist. In this book, there is no America. In this
book, the country we know as the United States is just a parcel
of land that was stolen and repurposed as a settler state using
European logic and the laws of white supremacy. This book is a
story about a strong-arm robbery. It is about family and friends
trying to recover what was stolen. It is the testimony, and the
verdict that a jury of our peers has never heard.
History can never be objective or unbiased because, no matter
how hard the storytellers may try, the perception of reality
prejudices all stories. The academic field of history is
dominated by white men handicapped by the inability to see
whiteness’s impact on America’s biography. The best historians
try to approximate the truth by unbending the collection of
funhouse mirrors through which the past has been viewed, but it
isn’t simply a counterfeit version of history, it is a fable
that erases the reflection of an entire people to ensure that
the mythology of the heroes lives happily ever after.
Because of the middle room, I was not burdened with unbending
the funhouse mirror of America’s past. For me, the writings of
Du Bois, Woodson, and the other Black chroniclers of yesteryear
were not counternarratives to a blanched, whitewashed version of
a somewhat true story. For me, the America that existed in the
middle room is the real America. In my education, we are the sun
and everything in the history of this nation’s existence is
simply rotating around the Blackness illuminating our universe.
When we are dead, and all the things that ever were have turned
to dust, we will not be history; we will be things that once
were. A few of us, however, will have lived a life so notable
that a white man might deem it worthy of bending his opposable
thumb to register our existence into posterity. The best we can
hope for is to become a part of white history because American
history is white history.
...
While this book does not seek to deify whiteness, it also does
not obfuscate the flaws of Black heroes. In this history, Martin
Luther King Jr. is a human being who is sometimes afraid. Booker
T. Washington and W. E. B. Du Bois are rivals, but their
ultimate goal is the same—to get free. In this book, enslaved
Africans are not victims, they are warriors from the Ashanti
Kingdom and the founding fathers of the Gullah culture and the
creators of America’s first democracy.
And while this book is not the complete history of Black people
in America, it acknowledges that too much has been stolen for
that to ever exist. In this book, there is no America. In this
book, the country we know as the United States is just a parcel
of land that was stolen and repurposed as a settler state using
European logic and the laws of white supremacy. This book is a
story about a strong-arm robbery. It is about family and friends
trying to recover what was stolen. It is the testimony, and the
verdict that a jury of our peers has never heard[/quote]
Source :
BLACK AF HISTORY THE UN-WHITEWASHED STORY OF AMERICA by Michael
Harriot page 9, 13
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